Colonial historians' war on Somali History

@Fobnimo Till I Dhimo We wuz trading with the romans and Sheet. Wallahi I cant breathe๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚. Is there any historical proof Somalis were trading with the Romans and Greeks lol?
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Emir of Zayla

๐•น๐–†๐–™๐–Ž๐–”๐–“ ๐–”๐–‹ ๐•ป๐–”๐–Š๐–™๐–˜
โ€œFor Hopesโ€ written by the historian Sharif Aidarus.

The inhabitants of Mogadishu in the first century before the birth of Isa ibn Maryam, peace be upon them both. Historians mention that the Arabs were the first to reside in Mogadishu that the colors of the inhabitants of this town in it are brown and there is what is blond and red, for they are pure and pure Arabs) and the Arabs settled in it from a long time ago, dating back to to one hundred and two BC, and in general they (the Arabs) entered Makdishu from about (2055) years. What is it

Sultan Asaad Al-Himyari. Mogadishu ruled over the people of the Tababโ€™ah eight centuries before Islam, and the sultan was nicknamed Abu Karb, and his name was Asaad Al-Himyari.

โ€œุจุบูŠุฉ ุงู„ุขู…ุงู„โ€ written by the historian Sharif Aidarus.
ุณูƒุงู† ู…ู‚ุฏุดูˆู‡ ููŠ ุงู„ู‚ุฑู† ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ ู‚ุจู„ ู…ูŠู„ุงุฏ ุนูŠุณู‰ ุงุจู† ู…ุฑูŠู… ุนู„ูŠู‡ู…ุง ุงู„ุณู„ุงู… ูŠุฐูƒุฑ ุงู„ู…ุคุฑุฎูˆู† ุฃู† ุงู„ุนุฑุจ ู‡ู… ุฃูˆู„ ู…ู† ุณูƒู†ูˆุง ู…ู‚ุฏุดูˆู‡ ูˆุฅู† ุฃู„ูˆุงู† ุณูƒุงู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุจู„ุฏุฉ ููŠู‡ุง - ุฃุณู…ุฑ ูˆููŠู‡ุง ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุฃุดู‚ุฑ ูˆุฃุญู…ุฑุŒ ูุฅู†ู‡ู… ู…ู† ุงู„ุนุฑุจ ุงู„ุฃู‚ุญุงุญ ุงู„ุฎู„ุต) ูˆุงุณุชูˆุทู†ุช ุงู„ุนุฑุจ ููŠู‡ุง ู…ู† ูˆู‚ุช ุจุนูŠุฏุŒ ูŠุฑุฌุน ุชุงุฑูŠุฎู‡ู… ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ุง ู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ู…ูŠู„ุงุฏ ุจู…ุงุฆุฉ ูˆุงุซู†ูŠู†ุŒ ูˆุจุงู„ุฌู…ู„ุฉ ูู‡ู… (ุงู„ุนุฑุจ) ู‚ุฏ ุฏุฎู„ูˆุง ู…ู‚ุฏุดูˆู‡ ู…ู† ู†ุญูˆ (ูขู ูฅูฅ) ุณู†ุฉ. ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ

ุงู„ุณู„ุทุงู† ุฃุณุนุฏ ุงู„ุญู…ูŠุฑูŠ.

ู‚ุฏ ุญูƒู… ู…ู‚ุฏุดูˆู‡ ู‚ูˆู… ุงู„ุชุจุงุจุนุฉ ู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู… ุจุซู…ุงู†ูŠุฉ ู‚ุฑูˆู†ุŒ ูˆูƒุงู† ุงู„ุณู„ุทุงู† ูŠูƒู†ู‰ ุจุฃุจูŠ ูƒุฑุจุŒ ูˆุงุณู…ู‡ ุฃุณุนุฏ ุงู„ุญู…ูŠุฑูŠ (ุญู…ูŠุฑ ุจูƒุณุฑ ุงู„ุญุงุก ูˆุณูƒูˆู† ุงู„ู…ูŠู… . : ู‡ูˆ
Cite your source dude. Give me a link
 
โ€œFor Hopesโ€ written by the historian Sharif Aidarus.

The inhabitants of Mogadishu in the first century before the birth of Isa ibn Maryam, peace be upon them both. Historians mention that the Arabs were the first to reside in Mogadishu that the colors of the inhabitants of this town in it are brown and there is what is blond and red, for they are pure and pure Arabs) and the Arabs settled in it from a long time ago, dating back to to one hundred and two BC, and in general they (the Arabs) entered Makdishu from about (2055) years. What is it

Sultan Asaad Al-Himyari. Mogadishu ruled over the people of the Tababโ€™ah eight centuries before Islam, and the sultan was nicknamed Abu Karb, and his name was Asaad Al-Himyari.

โ€œุจุบูŠุฉ ุงู„ุขู…ุงู„โ€ written by the historian Sharif Aidarus.
ุณูƒุงู† ู…ู‚ุฏุดูˆู‡ ููŠ ุงู„ู‚ุฑู† ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ ู‚ุจู„ ู…ูŠู„ุงุฏ ุนูŠุณู‰ ุงุจู† ู…ุฑูŠู… ุนู„ูŠู‡ู…ุง ุงู„ุณู„ุงู… ูŠุฐูƒุฑ ุงู„ู…ุคุฑุฎูˆู† ุฃู† ุงู„ุนุฑุจ ู‡ู… ุฃูˆู„ ู…ู† ุณูƒู†ูˆุง ู…ู‚ุฏุดูˆู‡ ูˆุฅู† ุฃู„ูˆุงู† ุณูƒุงู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุจู„ุฏุฉ ููŠู‡ุง - ุฃุณู…ุฑ ูˆููŠู‡ุง ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุฃุดู‚ุฑ ูˆุฃุญู…ุฑุŒ ูุฅู†ู‡ู… ู…ู† ุงู„ุนุฑุจ ุงู„ุฃู‚ุญุงุญ ุงู„ุฎู„ุต) ูˆุงุณุชูˆุทู†ุช ุงู„ุนุฑุจ ููŠู‡ุง ู…ู† ูˆู‚ุช ุจุนูŠุฏุŒ ูŠุฑุฌุน ุชุงุฑูŠุฎู‡ู… ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ุง ู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ู…ูŠู„ุงุฏ ุจู…ุงุฆุฉ ูˆุงุซู†ูŠู†ุŒ ูˆุจุงู„ุฌู…ู„ุฉ ูู‡ู… (ุงู„ุนุฑุจ) ู‚ุฏ ุฏุฎู„ูˆุง ู…ู‚ุฏุดูˆู‡ ู…ู† ู†ุญูˆ (ูขู ูฅูฅ) ุณู†ุฉ. ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ

ุงู„ุณู„ุทุงู† ุฃุณุนุฏ ุงู„ุญู…ูŠุฑูŠ.

ู‚ุฏ ุญูƒู… ู…ู‚ุฏุดูˆู‡ ู‚ูˆู… ุงู„ุชุจุงุจุนุฉ ู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู… ุจุซู…ุงู†ูŠุฉ ู‚ุฑูˆู†ุŒ ูˆูƒุงู† ุงู„ุณู„ุทุงู† ูŠูƒู†ู‰ ุจุฃุจูŠ ูƒุฑุจุŒ ูˆุงุณู…ู‡ ุฃุณุนุฏ ุงู„ุญู…ูŠุฑูŠ (ุญู…ูŠุฑ ุจูƒุณุฑ ุงู„ุญุงุก ูˆุณูƒูˆู† ุงู„ู…ูŠู… . : ู‡ูˆ

At the beginning of the 1 century CE all the regions stretching up to Zanzibar were apart of the kingdom of saba. Mogadishu, Merca, Barawa, lamu and mombasa were all apart of the ancient kingdom of saba. Read the benadiri: The renewal of the millinery identity. Chronicles also indicate the existence of Arab/Persian civilization before the birth of the prophet mohamed(PBUH).

The Saebans were maritime people with a large kingdom in Yemen. They used the seasonal monsoon winds to travel regularly to the East African coast. Arabs founded and established the coastal settlements along the Indian Ocean and Red Sea in present day Somalia.

"Pre-Islamic Arabs and Persians founded trading enterprises at Zeila on the Gulf of Aden and Mogadishu on the east coast. In the seventh century, Islamized Arabs strengthened these trading centers and introduced Islam to Somalia." (Mary arnold)

Scholar David Hamilton asserts "that from time immemorial, the coastal towns along the northern Somali shores have been politically subject to the Arabian states."

The Benadiri people originate from "mercantile urban communities" established by the ancient Arabs/Persians. Benadiris are the precursors of the pre-Islamic arabs and persians that ruled the coastal settlements of modern day Somalia. We wuz kangs and sheet๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚.
โ€œFor Hopesโ€ written by the historian Sharif Aidarus.

The inhabitants of Mogadishu in the first century before the birth of Isa ibn Maryam, peace be upon them both. Historians mention that the Arabs were the first to reside in Mogadishu that the colors of the inhabitants of this town in it are brown and there is what is blond and red, for they are pure and pure Arabs) and the Arabs settled in it from a long time ago, dating back to to one hundred and two BC, and in general they (the Arabs) entered Makdishu from about (2055) years. What is it

Sultan Asaad Al-Himyari. Mogadishu ruled over the people of the Tababโ€™ah eight centuries before Islam, and the sultan was nicknamed Abu Karb, and his name was Asaad Al-Himyari.

โ€œุจุบูŠุฉ ุงู„ุขู…ุงู„โ€ written by the historian Sharif Aidarus.
ุณูƒุงู† ู…ู‚ุฏุดูˆู‡ ููŠ ุงู„ู‚ุฑู† ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ ู‚ุจู„ ู…ูŠู„ุงุฏ ุนูŠุณู‰ ุงุจู† ู…ุฑูŠู… ุนู„ูŠู‡ู…ุง ุงู„ุณู„ุงู… ูŠุฐูƒุฑ ุงู„ู…ุคุฑุฎูˆู† ุฃู† ุงู„ุนุฑุจ ู‡ู… ุฃูˆู„ ู…ู† ุณูƒู†ูˆุง ู…ู‚ุฏุดูˆู‡ ูˆุฅู† ุฃู„ูˆุงู† ุณูƒุงู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุจู„ุฏุฉ ููŠู‡ุง - ุฃุณู…ุฑ ูˆููŠู‡ุง ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุฃุดู‚ุฑ ูˆุฃุญู…ุฑุŒ ูุฅู†ู‡ู… ู…ู† ุงู„ุนุฑุจ ุงู„ุฃู‚ุญุงุญ ุงู„ุฎู„ุต) ูˆุงุณุชูˆุทู†ุช ุงู„ุนุฑุจ ููŠู‡ุง ู…ู† ูˆู‚ุช ุจุนูŠุฏุŒ ูŠุฑุฌุน ุชุงุฑูŠุฎู‡ู… ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ุง ู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ู…ูŠู„ุงุฏ ุจู…ุงุฆุฉ ูˆุงุซู†ูŠู†ุŒ ูˆุจุงู„ุฌู…ู„ุฉ ูู‡ู… (ุงู„ุนุฑุจ) ู‚ุฏ ุฏุฎู„ูˆุง ู…ู‚ุฏุดูˆู‡ ู…ู† ู†ุญูˆ (ูขู ูฅูฅ) ุณู†ุฉ. ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ

ุงู„ุณู„ุทุงู† ุฃุณุนุฏ ุงู„ุญู…ูŠุฑูŠ.

ู‚ุฏ ุญูƒู… ู…ู‚ุฏุดูˆู‡ ู‚ูˆู… ุงู„ุชุจุงุจุนุฉ ู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู… ุจุซู…ุงู†ูŠุฉ ู‚ุฑูˆู†ุŒ ูˆูƒุงู† ุงู„ุณู„ุทุงู† ูŠูƒู†ู‰ ุจุฃุจูŠ ูƒุฑุจุŒ ูˆุงุณู…ู‡ ุฃุณุนุฏ ุงู„ุญู…ูŠุฑูŠ (ุญู…ูŠุฑ ุจูƒุณุฑ ุงู„ุญุงุก ูˆุณูƒูˆู† ุงู„ู…ูŠู… . : ู‡ูˆ
You love claiming shit without dropping links to your sources here are my sources.


Leave the links to your sources under each claim you have made
 
โ€œFor Hopesโ€ written by the historian Sharif Aidarus.

The inhabitants of Mogadishu in the first century before the birth of Isa ibn Maryam, peace be upon them both. Historians mention that the Arabs were the first to reside in Mogadishu that the colors of the inhabitants of this town in it are brown and there is what is blond and red, for they are pure and pure Arabs) and the Arabs settled in it from a long time ago, dating back to to one hundred and two BC, and in general they (the Arabs) entered Makdishu from about (2055) years. What is it

Sultan Asaad Al-Himyari. Mogadishu ruled over the people of the Tababโ€™ah eight centuries before Islam, and the sultan was nicknamed Abu Karb, and his name was Asaad Al-Himyari.

โ€œุจุบูŠุฉ ุงู„ุขู…ุงู„โ€ written by the historian Sharif Aidarus.
ุณูƒุงู† ู…ู‚ุฏุดูˆู‡ ููŠ ุงู„ู‚ุฑู† ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ ู‚ุจู„ ู…ูŠู„ุงุฏ ุนูŠุณู‰ ุงุจู† ู…ุฑูŠู… ุนู„ูŠู‡ู…ุง ุงู„ุณู„ุงู… ูŠุฐูƒุฑ ุงู„ู…ุคุฑุฎูˆู† ุฃู† ุงู„ุนุฑุจ ู‡ู… ุฃูˆู„ ู…ู† ุณูƒู†ูˆุง ู…ู‚ุฏุดูˆู‡ ูˆุฅู† ุฃู„ูˆุงู† ุณูƒุงู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุจู„ุฏุฉ ููŠู‡ุง - ุฃุณู…ุฑ ูˆููŠู‡ุง ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุฃุดู‚ุฑ ูˆุฃุญู…ุฑุŒ ูุฅู†ู‡ู… ู…ู† ุงู„ุนุฑุจ ุงู„ุฃู‚ุญุงุญ ุงู„ุฎู„ุต) ูˆุงุณุชูˆุทู†ุช ุงู„ุนุฑุจ ููŠู‡ุง ู…ู† ูˆู‚ุช ุจุนูŠุฏุŒ ูŠุฑุฌุน ุชุงุฑูŠุฎู‡ู… ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ุง ู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ู…ูŠู„ุงุฏ ุจู…ุงุฆุฉ ูˆุงุซู†ูŠู†ุŒ ูˆุจุงู„ุฌู…ู„ุฉ ูู‡ู… (ุงู„ุนุฑุจ) ู‚ุฏ ุฏุฎู„ูˆุง ู…ู‚ุฏุดูˆู‡ ู…ู† ู†ุญูˆ (ูขู ูฅูฅ) ุณู†ุฉ. ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ

ุงู„ุณู„ุทุงู† ุฃุณุนุฏ ุงู„ุญู…ูŠุฑูŠ.

ู‚ุฏ ุญูƒู… ู…ู‚ุฏุดูˆู‡ ู‚ูˆู… ุงู„ุชุจุงุจุนุฉ ู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู… ุจุซู…ุงู†ูŠุฉ ู‚ุฑูˆู†ุŒ ูˆูƒุงู† ุงู„ุณู„ุทุงู† ูŠูƒู†ู‰ ุจุฃุจูŠ ูƒุฑุจุŒ ูˆุงุณู…ู‡ ุฃุณุนุฏ ุงู„ุญู…ูŠุฑูŠ (ุญู…ูŠุฑ ุจูƒุณุฑ ุงู„ุญุงุก ูˆุณูƒูˆู† ุงู„ู…ูŠู… . : ู‡ูˆ
What's the source for that claim who is he quoting when he makes that claim?
you do realise this isn't proof right ๐Ÿ˜‚
 
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You love claiming shit without dropping links to your sources here are my sources.


Leave the links to your sources under each claim you have made
She's quoting books written by modern benadiri people and every time I ask for an extract of the source material for her claim she starts looping and at the very most posts the benediri guys saying that it was founded by Arabs ๐Ÿ’€

She's clearly mentally ill and doesn't understand what a first hand account or source material even is. You can't quote people who didn't live in those time as source material but @HabarSteven12 clearly doesn't understand that.

Habar please show us proof of Arabs founding somali coastal cities. Arab graves being present at any given time is not proof of Arabs founding somali cities ๐Ÿ˜ญ
 
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She's quoting books written by modern benadiri people and every time I ask for an extract of the source material for her claim she starts looping and at the very most posts the benediri guys saying that it was founded by Arabs ๐Ÿ’€

She's clearly mentally ill and doesn't understand what a first hand accounts or source material even is. You can't quote people who didn't live in those time as source material but @HabarSteven12 clearly doesn't understand that.

Habar please show us proof of Arabs founding somali coastal cities. Arab graves being present at any given time is not proof of Arabs founding somali cities ๐Ÿ˜ญ
This is the site from which most of her propaganda originates.


There's this book she keeps mentioning, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was written by them. The book was written by someone named Irena Knehlt, and almost every search links it to a Yemeni woman.

I tried my best to find more details about this so-called Irene Knehlt person, but there isn't much on the internet๐Ÿคฃthis book is on the Reer Xamar propaganda site lol there's a reason they love this book so much

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Emir of Zayla

๐•น๐–†๐–™๐–Ž๐–”๐–“ ๐–”๐–‹ ๐•ป๐–”๐–Š๐–™๐–˜
This is the site from which most of her propaganda originates.


There's this book she keeps mentioning, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was written by them. The book was written by someone named Irena Knehlt, and almost every search links it to a Yemeni woman.

I tried my best to find more details about this so-called Irene Knehlt person, but there isn't much on the internet๐Ÿคฃthis book is on the Reer Xamar propaganda site lol there's a reason they love this book so much

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The Banadir are just some refugees and travelers from Arabia and India that got xooged by us. Culturally, genetically and everything else theyโ€™re Somali lol ๐Ÿ˜‚
 
here's another video๐Ÿคฃ
@HabarSteven12 this vid is quoting roman source material of proto somali presence in all of somalia's modern day coastal cities. We need source material from you that predates this roman amount of Arabs establishing and being kicked out by proto somalis for your claim to be taken seriously. If you can give us that we will all accept your Arabs wuz kings in somalia story.

keep in mind it has to basically predate all source material that claims natives where already established in the coastal regions.

Don't quote some idrus from benadir post his source for his claim
 
This is the site from which most of her propaganda originates.


There's this book she keeps mentioning, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was written by them. The book was written by someone named Irena Knehlt, and almost every search links it to a Yemeni woman.

I tried my best to find more details about this so-called Irene Knehlt person, but there isn't much on the internet๐Ÿคฃthis book is on the Reer Xamar propaganda site lol there's a reason they love this book so much

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Her book only claims they came 1000 years ago and she's claiming they came 2000 years ago ๐Ÿ’€

I don't know what all the fuss is even about in the first place the benadir people genetically are mainly ethnic somalis. I know many reer xamar and bandiri people irl

 
๐ŸคฃThe book she was talking about is written by a Slovenian woman who lives in Yemen.


โ€œI feel Yemen in my blood and veins. I cannot imagine myself leaving. I will stay to build bridges between what I believe is my country, Yemen, and the rest of the worldโ€ she once told the Yemen Times when asked whether she would return to Slovenia, her home country, after spending decades in Yemen.
Irena Knehtl may have not been a celebrity in the true sense. Many officials or diplomats may not know much about her. But if you visit remote areas in Mareb, such as Serwah, go to distant villages in the governorate of Sana'a, or pass by the old traditional market of Bab Al-Yemen, you would definitely realize that she is indeed popular. She is a humble person who liked to interact with regular people directly, eat, talk, and spend good time with them.


She got her taariikh degree from Norway lol
Irena obtained her degree in economics from Slovenia, in Business Studies from London School for Business Studies, and in International Relations and History from the University of Oslo in Norway.
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@HabarSteven12

is most definitely a lying troll who isnโ€™t even Somali or even female for that matter. You hardly ever use any proper sources whilst those that oppose you actually have evidence that can be followed as theyโ€™re sited.

Get a life.
 

Emir of Zayla

๐•น๐–†๐–™๐–Ž๐–”๐–“ ๐–”๐–‹ ๐•ป๐–”๐–Š๐–™๐–˜
๐ŸคฃThe book she was talking about is written by a Slovenian woman who lives in Yemen.


โ€œI feel Yemen in my blood and veins. I cannot imagine myself leaving. I will stay to build bridges between what I believe is my country, Yemen, and the rest of the worldโ€ she once told the Yemen Times when asked whether she would return to Slovenia, her home country, after spending decades in Yemen.
Irena Knehtl may have not been a celebrity in the true sense. Many officials or diplomats may not know much about her. But if you visit remote areas in Mareb, such as Serwah, go to distant villages in the governorate of Sana'a, or pass by the old traditional market of Bab Al-Yemen, you would definitely realize that she is indeed popular. She is a humble person who liked to interact with regular people directly, eat, talk, and spend good time with them.


She got her taariikh degree Norway lol
Irena obtained her degree in economics from Slovenia, in Business Studies from London School for Business Studies, and in International Relations and History from the University of Oslo in Norway.View attachment 289533
Ainโ€™t no fu*king way ๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ weโ€™ve finally exposed the inbred @HabarSteven12 โ€™s true identity as a larping Slovenian ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ
 
@HabarSteven12

is most definitely a lying troll who isnโ€™t even Somali or even female for that matter. You hardly ever use any proper sources whilst those that oppose you actually have evidence that can be followed as theyโ€™re sited.

Get a life.
What suggests that she isn't female since she definitely acts and talks like the standard femcel
 

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