Don't you dare waste your opportunity in the West and don't get too comfortable!!
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Inquisitive_
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None of those skills will save you.
We import over 90% of our food and use the dollar as our currency, the entire Somali economy is sustained by remittances from abroad.
In a mass deportation scenario of millions that critical lifeline is cut, whatever money the Deportees come with will soon run out as it's spent on things we import from abroad, we have a massive trade deficit with all countries, we produce nothing and can't with the highest energy cost in the world.
All that money instead of circulating in the country will leave the country quickly and you will see mass starvation like we never experienced before, as we can't feed ourselves and have no money to import that 90% of our food we currently import. (Much more needed with millions of new comers)
The military and police are the only ones heavily armed and they consist of the worst of our society, so your lucky if they kill you before starvation does.
What makes the situation even more grim is that all the rich farm land are in the hands of the western backed khawariij shabab, infrastructure is so bad that even now the 10% we make a lot of it rots in the trucks when you have little rain fall.
To even have a chance at surviving this you need survival skills, be heavily armed, have great like minded community, have solar, move out the cities and live of sea life, even then your chances are slim as the hordes will likely find you, and eventually your bullets will run out.
In a mass deportation scenario Somalia is the worst place to go, unless you want to die a horrible death.
This is coming from someone who has lived there and also married there, it's a terrible choice, the people there are much worse then you think, there is a reason why their predicament is the way it is, the diaspora Somalis are angels in comparison to the average citizen their.
We import over 90% of our food and use the dollar as our currency, the entire Somali economy is sustained by remittances from abroad.
In a mass deportation scenario of millions that critical lifeline is cut, whatever money the Deportees come with will soon run out as it's spent on things we import from abroad, we have a massive trade deficit with all countries, we produce nothing and can't with the highest energy cost in the world.
All that money instead of circulating in the country will leave the country quickly and you will see mass starvation like we never experienced before, as we can't feed ourselves and have no money to import that 90% of our food we currently import. (Much more needed with millions of new comers)
The military and police are the only ones heavily armed and they consist of the worst of our society, so your lucky if they kill you before starvation does.
What makes the situation even more grim is that all the rich farm land are in the hands of the western backed khawariij shabab, infrastructure is so bad that even now the 10% we make a lot of it rots in the trucks when you have little rain fall.
To even have a chance at surviving this you need survival skills, be heavily armed, have great like minded community, have solar, move out the cities and live of sea life, even then your chances are slim as the hordes will likely find you, and eventually your bullets will run out.
In a mass deportation scenario Somalia is the worst place to go, unless you want to die a horrible death.
This is coming from someone who has lived there and also married there, it's a terrible choice, the people there are much worse then you think, there is a reason why their predicament is the way it is, the diaspora Somalis are angels in comparison to the average citizen their.
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Thank you,
You are clearly someone who has been back home and stayed long enough to see how things really are. This is also my take as well to the T.
Inquisitive_
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I anticipated everything except the people, I knew they were of low quality, but its much lower then a normal human can fathom.
You can't build anything for them, they will kill you out of xasad like that poor diaspora female that came to help, they killed countless Somali engineers that came to help just out of pure xasad, some of those stories would make your stomach churn.
If you escape murder and extortion you will not escape sixir, it's so rife in that society you would never think they are Muslims, its especially rife with the minority tribes that everyone collectively looks down on, its a lifestyle and they do it to you for no reason other then pure xasad.
It doesn't matter were you travel in Somalia it's the same, I spent a significant amount of time doing ruqiyah on myself on a daily basis because the attacks were relentless, and I am told most people that are able to function do this, on every street corner there is an exorcist centre, can't go for a walk without hearing demonic screams.
You try to paint your house and within minutes a police officer comes to extort you, your own neighbours that smiles at you calls them and they split the difference.
The entire society in that country is rotten to the core, I came out of that long experience with increased faith and a renewed love, it was the manifestation of the verse that Allah DOES NOT OPPRESS HIS SLAVES but they OPPRESS themselves, and also how vast his mercy is, because I would have wiped those people out.
When the infidel atheist argues against the existence of God citing suffering around the world, HE HAS NO IDEA why these people suffer, had he experienced the brutality they inflict on each other and poor animals, he himself would have wiped them out.
This is not exclusive to Somalia only, all impoverished nations this type of thing is rife, but what Somalia is unique in, is that its citizens will kill you if you embark on any major development project that benefits them, something other impoverished nations welcome and celebrate.
The tragic story is that usually in impoverished nations like Somalia, it always produces the best women that are most resilient, while it does the opposite to the male's.
Here in the West we have the opposite problems, affluent societies destroy women, they become less traditional, less resilient more materialistic and the worst of all incredibly ungrateful.
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Like many men like you, you only respect a woman's resilience when she is in dire poverty. When women are middle-class working professionals—teachers, doctors, nurses, business owners—you see them as a threat to your masculinity. The reason you view them as ungrateful is because, now that they are financially independent, they no longer rely on you for survival. This forces you to offer more than just your passport and a meager $400, which irritates you to your core.
On the other hand, the resilient women back home, who work tirelessly due to poverty, are grateful for even the smallest contribution because every penny you provide becomes a lifeline for them. This creates a sense of dependency, which you equate with gratitude. It's rooted in the idea of Maslow's hierarchy of needs:
You want women to be stuck in the lower levels—focused on their physiological needs (food, water, shelter) and security. In contrast, Western women, or even upper-middle-class Somali women back home, are more likely to need and expect things beyond mere survival: love, respect, companionship, and emotional support. Since they can provide for their basic needs themselves, they can demand more, and in your eyes, this is where their so-called "ungratefulness" stems from. "How dare she want more?"
As for materialism it is a fact that women back home care more about a man’s provision than Western raised women. It is a fact that it’s women back home who will date men and ask for money straight up. Watch this video. This is such a common thing back home and that men that women talk to even have a name: Danyeer. It’s such a common issue that fob men like Xaaliye who have never been to the West now have grudges against women back home. Fob women in Nairobi even beat him because he suggested that men shouldn’t give women money whilst courting. This is such basic advise for us Westerners and women like myself raised in the West would be too mortified to ask a man who we are not married to for money. That’s why I think your hatred of diaspora women is so easy to see because you miss basic things that people that go back home and interact with locals can tell you for free. But again it mostly goes back to the Moslaw's law of hierarchy which I explained.
Watch this:
Another aspect that blinds you is basic economics and currency differences. The thing is, the only reason why you as a diaspora men do not see women asking for money off the bat as materialism is because of your passport and privilege. A $100 here and there means nothing, but if a diaspora female who earns that in less than a day wanted something on her economic level you’ll bulk. Ironically, diaspora women don’t even ask men for expensive stuff generally since expecting stuff on that magnitude from men you’re not married to is seen distasteful.
Another point that I know you’re thinking:
If you’re going to bring up weddings and costs, then you’re misguided, Somalis have the cheapest Weddings and Mehr of any Muslim group. Speak to an Arab man, look at the obscene amounts a middle class Pakistani family spend on weddings that are a 3 day affair?
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The reason why I believe that your bias was comes from a place of hurt and or misogyny is because it’s so easy to deconstruct your argument and tbh what’s fascinating is that you don’t say anything different to most misogynistic men. Speak to a misogynistic man back home and he will tell you Somali women back home are ungrateful, example Xaliye, speak to an Indian man in India who lives in the most r-word and unsafe capital and misogynistic society ever and you’ll now see dozens of them calling Indian women ungrateful on twitter.
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Anywhere but Somalia
I can’t ever see myself growing old and dying in Somalia
Tahrib is the most popular thing in Somalia with good reason thousands of Somalis leave Somalia each year. Their older generation betrayed them and their future grandchildren so they have no choice but to flee and build something for themselves and their future descendants, in a foreign land
I can’t ever see myself growing old and dying in Somalia
Tahrib is the most popular thing in Somalia with good reason thousands of Somalis leave Somalia each year. Their older generation betrayed them and their future grandchildren so they have no choice but to flee and build something for themselves and their future descendants, in a foreign land
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