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I bet you Ethiopia still gets included in the end because they are 'a trusted partner' lol.
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It wouldn't surprise me if this turned out to be true hsm is spineless. But I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and see what offcial announcements come out over the next day . But considering some ethiopian govt officials arrived yesterday in somalia to discuss something with the fgs its definitely possible.

This is why I will never understand the Somalian mind, can't seem to grasp fundemental things like if you aren't paying you can't make final decisions. Doesn't matter if it's HSM or anyone else, FGS was never going to have final say.
 
This is why I will never understand the Somalian mind, can't seem to grasp fundemental things like if you aren't paying you can't make final decisions. Doesn't matter if it's HSM or anyone else, FGS was never going to have final say.
I always take a detached approach so I don't learn way or the other. But it's funny how you ignore everything that doesn't agree with your logic for instance you seem to slide past the fact that it's been 1 yeat since the mou and no progress has been made on recognition.

You very much remind me of that one quote

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
 
I always take a detached approach so I don't learn way or the other. But it's funny how you ignore everything that doesn't agree with your logic for instance you seem to slide past the fact that it's been 1 yeat since the mou and no progress has been made on recognition.

You very much remind me of that one quote

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
You will never learn if you just try to deflect all the time.
You might notice this thread is nothing to do with MoUs or recognition.

There are many ways to reach a goal.

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I'm totally agasped. We really gorgortaning their troops staying.

Somalia wants Ethiopian troops relocated from certain towns even if they are allowed to participate in AUSSOM. Ethiopian officials appeared unhappy with the idea-

[The f*ck]

How low have we fallen 😭
They will get their way, HSM will bend over again eventually. Just playing hard to get. Ethiopia chasing like:
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“Reopened the door for involving Ethiopias military support” it implies that Ethiopias role within the new peace keeping mission is ambiguous and still in negotiations. This probably closed the door tho
Somalia wants Ethiopian troops relocated from certain towns even if they are allowed to participate in AUSSOM. Ethiopian officials appeared unhappy with the idea.

“The Ethiopian delegation noted the challenges of relocating their forces from areas where they have operated for an extended period. While no final decision was made, a Somali delegation will travel to Addis Ababa in the near future to finalize the details. The talks reflected a shared commitment to mutual understanding and collaboration,” the official added.

The Ethiopian delegation left Somalia late on Thursday.
A week ago FGS was tweeting about being attacked by Ethiopian troops, this week they are discussing where those same troops will be placed. They never had plans to remove them imo.
 

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Nobody on Somalia side unfortunately. World basically wants to contain Somalia and nobody does better job than Kenya and Ethiopia. Too many weapons and troops not under fgs control. Ethiopia with all its fault has way more trust in world. Gets billions in investment. Visits from world leaders and billionaires .

Ethiopia is like Russia to its satellite countries. Everyone knows Belarus is under economic political and militarily control of Russia. Same thing with Somalia we separate country in name only.

Abiy is flexing muscle and stepping out from behind scenes to make it crystal clear who in charge. Maybe saw fgs making to much progress and getting to independent and decided to crack whip who knows
 
Nobody on Somalia side unfortunately. World basically wants to contain Somalia and nobody does better job than Kenya and Ethiopia. Too many weapons and troops not under fgs control. Ethiopia with all its fault has way more trust in world. Gets billions in investment. Visits from world leaders and billionaires .

Ethiopia is like Russia to its satellite countries. Everyone knows Belarus is under economic political and militarily control of Russia. Same thing with Somalia we separate country in name only.

Abiy is flexing muscle and stepping out from behind scenes to make it crystal clear who in charge. Maybe saw fgs making to much progress and getting to independent and decided to crack whip who knows

The world can't listen anymore to this kind of rhetoric.

We just watched Jubbaland and the FGS fighting a few kilometers from Al-Shabaab. It's not the responsiblity of the world to finance experiments in decentralized government or unitary government or 20 year constitutional reform projects. It's time for Somalis to come to an agreement, take responsbility for their own security and stop Somali territority being used to export terror.

In 2024 Somalia was being treated like Biden health, let's pretend everything is normal - heck even go into the UNSC why not, it's all a big party here.

It's 2025, the Democrats are no longer in power and it's time for realism.

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Nobody on Somalia side unfortunately. World basically wants to contain Somalia and nobody does better job than Kenya and Ethiopia. Too many weapons and troops not under fgs control. Ethiopia with all its fault has way more trust in world. Gets billions in investment. Visits from world leaders and billionaires .

Ethiopia is like Russia to its satellite countries. Everyone knows Belarus is under economic political and militarily control of Russia. Same thing with Somalia we separate country in name only.

Abiy is flexing muscle and stepping out from behind scenes to make it crystal clear who in charge. Maybe saw fgs making to much progress and getting to independent and decided to crack whip who knows
Im not really worried about ethiopia since there stat capacity is one the decline . Also that's a terrible comparison. Russia has absolute control over all its territory. The governor of the Amara region and the oromoia region have to take a plane to arrive at their capital cities since it's too dangerous for them too drive . I get that doomerism is appealing. But creating this image of an invincible ethiopia when they literally had a civil war and are experiencing mass starvation in tigray sounds like a fantasy.
 

Hilmaam

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The world can't listen anymore to this kind of rhetoric.

We just watched Jubbaland and the FGS fighting a few kilometers from Al-Shabaab. It's not the responsiblity of the world to finance experiments in decentralized government or unitary government or 20 year consitutional reform projects. It's time for Somalis to come to an agreement take responsbility for their own security and stop Somali territority being used to export terror.

In 2024 Somalia was being treated like Biden health, let's pretend everything is normal heck even go into the UNSC why not, it's all a big party here.

It's 2025, the Democrats are no longer in power and it's time for realism.

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The world spend like 1.5 billion on atmis. A additional couple billion on aid that goes to somali govt and food stuff. It’s very low stakes for countries like America. Their metric for success is probably reducing piracy, no shabab attacks outside Somalia, and ensuring no Americans die inside country which Trump probably will ensure by pulling them like first term. Why shake it up when it will result in Al shabab winning ?
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Hilmaam

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Im not really worried about ethiopia since there stat capacity is one the decline . Also that's a terrible comparison. Russia has absolute control over all its territory. The governor of the Amara region and the oromoia region have to take a plane to arrive at their capital cities since it's too dangerous for them too drive . I get that doomerism is appealing. But creating this image of an invincible ethiopia when they literally had a civil war and are experiencing mass starvation in tigray sounds like a fantasy.
HSM can’t go to somalilnd puntland jubbaland. Ethiopia can though

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