Ethiopia: From Role Model to Cautionary Tale

[Cadmus]

Right worry about war in your country Ethiopia, as for Somalia you tried that thing for past 25 years and you failed BTW Ahmed Gurey is Somali and Adal sultanate was Somali sultanate. View attachment 7755

Filthy colonizers and rapists trying to claim the biggest destroyer of Habashi in human history, Ahmed Gurey and Sacaad-ad-diin, as if they were Habashi.

This revision of history has to be countered, I tried to correct something on wikipedia a while ago, and this cadaan told me "that seems biased, so i've undone what your wrote." All I did was change "Ethiopia and Somalia committed equal human rights abuses," to "Ethiopia committed the majority of human rights abuses due ethnic hostilities." We need Somalis to start taking control of our own history on wikipedia. As long as you use references such as, books, articles etc, it'll be accepted. Because if you look at ALL the habashi provided references, they are either from Addis Abba university (such as Ahmed Gurey and Sacaad-ad-diin being habashi) or brisitsh colonial writers from Oxford University who are members of the Royal society, which is connected to the former colonial foreign offices that gave away the HAUD to Selassie.

They actually have the audacity to call him "Gragn." Disgusting.

Reer gadabursii should be at the forefront of this so they don't lose their history, which which later involved all qabils in the fighting against the habashi expansionism.

 

[Cadmus]

in the near future they will be gunning for sea access, tplf will go for eritrea and autonomous somali region will start a war with SL. due to colonial division, they are no longer the same people and despise one another, it will get worse. once western power diminishes, djbouti will also be in deep trouble.

No one cares about Eritrea. Saudi will NEVER allow habashi opposite them, and everyone know's this.

Habashi target is SL,PL,Xamar. Becoming a naval power is only 5%, of their objective. The other 95% is to feed their people through the Somali fishing stocks which are the largest in the world, in terms of Tuna, which contains very high amounts of Omega-3 fatty acids for brain development.

Eritrean waters are way too salty to contain large amounts of the required fishing stocks.

 

[Shamis]

in the near future they will be gunning for sea access, tplf will go for eritrea and autonomous somali region will start a war with SL. due to colonial division, they are no longer the same people and despise one another, it will get worse. once western power diminishes, djbouti will also be in deep trouble.

Not Ethiopia the state, which will need to place nicey nice from now on fyi, we're talking about your cousins the Oromo.

Ahmed Gurey is a Somali, only a Somali would have destroyed all their macbuds and sent them further North, why would a habeshi do that?

 

[Cadmus]

Not Ethiopia the state, which will need to place nicey nice from now on fyi, we're talking about your cousins the Oromo.

Ahmed Gurey is a Somali, only a Somali would have destroyed all their macbuds and sent them further North, why would a habeshi do that?

Exactly, someone needs to tell the ethiopians, that Somalis will NEVER ever again go to full-scale war with each other, like in the past. Every region and every qabil lost something. There's far too many educated diaspora abroad, as well as diaspora educated and raised politicians/army personnel who won't allow this.

On top of that, Kenya's attempt at stealing the Somali seas + the habashi eating themselves, is the greatest thing to happen to us, since the civil war.

There's a renewed resilience and optimism amongst Somali people due to the court case.

Isaaq, Darood, Hawiye, Madhiban, Raxanweyn etc were all side by side, protesting in front of the Kenyan embassy in London when the case started. This clearly shook the Kenyans and ethiopians. I've never seen so many Somalis, across all qabil's and regions in unity like this. Beautiful stuff.

 

[Young Popeye]

Not Ethiopia the state, which will need to place nicey nice from now on fyi, we're talking about your cousins the Oromo.

Ahmed Gurey is a Somali, only a Somali would have destroyed all their macbuds and sent them further North, why would a habeshi do that?

Let me teach you some history, Harar was not part of ethiopia until 1887 before that they had an independent monarch, Harar was the capital of most of east africa ,during the reign of Ahmed. The people of Harar are not Somalis but Harari, they have their own language and culture.When Adals army got kicked out of Ethiopia, the Imams widow went to her city Harar. Stop looking at a modern map and labeling everyone habesha, habesha means Christian highlander..

 

[Shamis]

Let me teach you some history, Harar was not part of ethiopia until 1887 before that they had an independent monarch, Harar was the capital of most of east africa ,during the reign of Ahmed. The people of Harar are not Somalis but Harari, they have their own language and culture.When Adals army got kicked out of Ethiopia, the Imams widow went to her city Harar. Stop looking at a modern map and labeling everyone habesha, habesha means Christian highlander..

What's any of that got to do with the price of tea in China?

 

[Ferrari]

May it fall apart completely and for ever.

 

[Canuck]

What's any of that got to do with the price of tea in China?

This guy will claim every Somali tribe even the reer xamar to be harari.

 

[Dire Dewa's son]

Let me teach you some history, Harar was not part of ethiopia until 1887 before that they had an independent monarch, Harar was the capital of most of east africa ,during the reign of Ahmed. The people of Harar are not Somalis but Harari, they have their own language and culture.When Adals army got kicked out of Ethiopia, the Imams widow went to her city Harar. Stop looking at a modern map and labeling everyone habesha, habesha means Christian highlander..

I was waiting for one person with REAL knowledge on this issue..and here you are. Youz a fuckin genius.

 

[waraabe]

Ethiopia is fully welcome to use somaliland ports and sea. Here is to another decade of development, cooperation and advancement between the brotherly Ethiopians and the somalilanders.
@Young Popeye

 

[Bernie Madoff]

@Young Popeye was good my harari cousin

 

[Shamis]

I was waiting for one person with REAL knowledge on this issue..and here you are. Youz a fuckin genius.

@Canuck He's also this guy.

 

[Dire Dewa's son]

@Canuck He's also this guy.

I'm 1 account and 1 person. I'm sorry that a simple history lesson causes you this much angst.

 

[Shamis]

I'm 1 account and 1 person. I'm sorry that a simple history lesson causes you this much angst.

What are you talking about? Stop derailing my thread.

 

[Dire Dewa's son]

What are you talking about? Stop derailing my thread.

you're the one accusing ME of being an alias and tagging me in your bullshit.. Better put some respek on my name Go circle jerk with aj and rudeboi. Fagh.

 

[Cadmus]

Let me teach you some history, Harar was not part of ethiopia until 1887 before that they had an independent monarch, Harar was the capital of most of east africa ,during the reign of Ahmed. The people of Harar are not Somalis but Harari, they have their own language and culture.When Adals army got kicked out of Ethiopia, the Imams widow went to her city Harar. Stop looking at a modern map and labeling everyone habesha, habesha means Christian highlander..

Habashi lies never cease to end, if only you could pay ethiopian debt with lies, you would have the worlds largest surplus.

Let me educate you, raw meat eater.

First of all, there's no such thing as Ethiopia as a country. Everyone know's this, hence why the greatest economic powers in the world are dismantling you, one by one right, day by day, right now.

Harar didn't really become a part of Ehtiopia until 1920.

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Makonnen
"He was made Mesfin (or Duke) of Harar upon the coronation of his parents in 1930."
People in Harar were largely independent, and protected by the various Somali sultanates, until the end of the Dervish state which ended in 1920. ONLY after the death of Sayid Mohammed Abdullahi Hassan did the corwardly habashi have the balls to claim Harar. Even than, it took you many years before you were confident enough of his death.

Menelik II was GIVEN Harar after the Berlin Conference in 1885, but they had NO CONTROL of it due to the threats of the Somalis.
All because the habashi king said this:
“I am not a Negro at all; I am a Caucasian.”

Than you lost Harar after this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interwar_period
"Later, during the Interwar period, with the Second Italo-Ethiopian War Italy would annex Ethiopia, which formed together with Eritrea and Italian Somaliland the Italian East Africa (A.O.I., "Africa Orientale Italiana", also defined by the fascist government as L'Impero)."

After the Inter-War, Harar was a reward for being the perfect house slave. Just as years later, the Hawd was given to haile "house negro" selassie, in order to occupy and kill Somalis so they wouldn't interfere and realize the importance of the Gulf of Aden, which could sabotage British interests between Aden and Bombay belonging to this little company. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company

This is why the British were scared. Whilst every African country was being financially raped and colonised, this happened:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dervish_state
"As a result of its fame in the Middle East and Europe, the Dervish State was recognized as an ally by the Ottoman Empire and the German Empire.[2][3] It also succeeded at outliving the Scramble for Africa, and remained throughout World War I the only independent Muslim power on the continent.

Alliance between German Empire and The Dervish state occured, considering habashi inferior, whilst Germany started racial experiments in Namibia that would lead to the Eugenicist Movement within the Nazi party. It was discovered, THAT ALL ABYSSINIANS, WERE PURPOSEFULLY and HEAVILY DILUTED genetically, BY THE PORTOGUESE SINCE 1492, WHEN THE MOORS WERE EXPELLED FROM Europe and the Maghreb.
Below, is where the fallacy of "Somalis being caucasian" comes from, because a Somali HARTI sultan kicked the ass of the German east Africa company in Tanzania. Somalis created trading posts on the coast as far down as Zimbabwe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_II,_German_Emperor#Abushiri_Arab_Revolt_in_East_Africa
Abushiri ibn Salim al-Harthi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abushiri_ibn_Salim_al-Harthi Witness these habashi lies people. OROMO KULAHA

"al-Harthi (Arabic: البشير بن سالم الحارثي‎‎) (executed 15 December 1889) was a wealthy merchant and plantation owner of Arab-Oromo parentage who is known for theAbushiri Revolt against the German East Africa Company in present-day Tanzania. He is credited with uniting local Arab traders and African tribes against German colonialism.
"Was a wealthy merchant and plantation owner of Arab-Oromo parentage"

IT'S A FACT, THAT Al-Harthi, was 100% HARTI-Somali. This man, was indeed, the role-model of Sayid Mohammed ABDULLAHI HASSAN. The Sayid BUILT upon the reputation of Al-Harthi, which gave him access to modern weapons manufacture from abroad, such as the Ottomans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somaliland_Campaign

This is exactly what I talked about earlier, important somali history is being revised by habashi through wikipedia.


Harar has ALWAYS been Somali lands, protected by the Ogaden regions. Even the Ethiopian government recognized it publicly by doing this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hararghe#/media/File:EthiopianProvinces.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hararghe
"Hararghe came into existence as a result of Proclamation 1943/1, which created 12 taklai ghizats from the existing 42 provinces of varying sizes.[1] A comparison of the two maps in Margary Perham, The Government of Ethiopia shows that Hararghe was created by combining the Aussa Sultanate, the lands of the Issa, Gadabuursi, and the Ogaden, with the 1935 provinces of Chercher and Harar.[2


You said it became a part of ethiopia in 1887 right? Two years after the Berlin Conference. Hey GUY, Why tyou f******* lyyyyyin?' "Ohhh how I like, try but i CAN'T FIND IT'

This is Adel Empire in 1897.

This below is Adel Empire in 1890!

Harar was created by: Abadir Umar ar-Rida
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abadir_Umar_ar-Rida

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harar
The Fath Madinat Harar records that the cleric and several other religious leaders settled in Harar circa 1216 (612 hijri year).[8] Harar was later made the new capital of the Adal Sultanate in 1520 by the Sultan Abu Bakr ibn Muhammad.[9]


Sheikh Abadir Umar ar-Rida (Harari አው አባዲር, Somali: Abaadir Umar Ar-Rida, Arabic: أبادير عمر بن رضا‎‎), also known as Fiqi Umar and Abadir Musa Warwaje'le,[1] was a Muslim cleric and patron saint of the city of Harar in modern-day eastern Ethiopia. He is regarded as the immediate common ancestor of the Somali Sheekhaal clan

Harar was created by Somali Quraysh ancestor of Sheekhaal and KARANLE.

Which makes Harar a HAWIYE created and built city.

Stop claiming hawiye Somali history you savage.

 

[Shamis]

Western diplomats slowly giving up on TPLF, advising US government to cut ties:



If You Give Tyranny a Cookie
Stop Carrying the Ethiopian Government’s Water

Two weeks ago, over fifty people were killed by a stampede in Bishoftu, Ethiopia after the army and national police fired tear gas at a mixed crowd of protesters and Irreechaa festival-goers. In a year that has seen at least 500 people in Oromia and Amhara killed in anti-government protests, the stampede’s aftermath was the tragedy that caused the kettle to boil over. The Ethiopian government took steps to declare a six-month state of emergency (with commensurate limits on freedom of expression and assembly), and the State Department responded with a press statement marked by elevated wording: “This declaration, if implemented in these ways, would further enshrine the type of response that has failed to ameliorate the recent political crisis.” U.S. Embassy Addis Ababa, in its frankest acknowledgment yet of the ongoing crisis, encouraged Ethiopians to express themselves freely on its Facebook wall. Then, over this past weekend, the Ethiopian government codified (among other things) limitations on social media and internet usage. Since Friday, the embassy’s Facebook page and Twitter feed have remained silent. There is nothing stopping State from continuing to engage in a public dialogue on social media; what VPNs in Addis Ababa cannot overcome, limitless resources in Foggy Bottom can. Is it in preparation for a reevaluation of the virtue of responding to wanton imprisonment and state violence with platitudes? Or is it, as I fear, acquiescence?

Our relationship with Ethiopia is one of the most important on the African continent, and the official U.S. government presence in Addis Ababa reflects this: the city’s largest embassy, approximately 170 American diplomats and officials (principally from USAID), over USD $650 million in annual development aid. There is a myriad of American-underwritten programs aimed at combatting anything from infant mortality to female illiteracy to human trafficking. Economic officers work tirelessly to improve accessibility to markets and trade between Ethiopia and the United States. By and large, the American presence in Ethiopia is overwhelmingly positive for its citizens.

The American government’s ability to effect a better life for Ethiopians is, however, reliant on the Ethiopian government’s status as a willing and receptive partner. Knowing this, the ruling Ethiopian People’s Revolutionary Democratic Front (EPRDF) wields authoritarian rule with a certain sense of impunity. NGOs receiving more than ten percent of their funding from foreign sources are barred from human rights and advocacy work. Anti-terrorism laws have given the government broad scope to detain and imprison journalists and opposition politicians (often under the guise that they are working in conjunction with organizations labeled as domestic terrorist groups, or foreign actors such as al-Shabaab, Egypt, Eritrea, or seditious diaspora groups). The 2010 parliamentary election saw 545 out of 547 seats go to EPRDF or EPRDF-allied parties; the 2015 results raised this number by two to an absolute majority. It is an understatement to say that, from a context of democracy, human rights, and governance, American and EPRDF values are not in alignment.

Despite the wide chasm between USG and EPRDF ideas on how to govern, the United States has gone out of its way to praise Ethiopian democracy. And not simply in a nascent-democracy-taking-bigger-steps sort of way, as is common between the State Department and developing nations; officials at the highest levels have heaped praise on their EPRDF counterparts in ways that simply undercut all the Human Rights reports and anti-terrorism trial observers and statements of “deep concern” from the ambassador. Embassy Addis’ radio silence since last week is on the more benign side of the spectrum of assent. In 2012, following the death of Prime Minister Meles Zenawi, then-U.S. Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice called Zenawi “uncommonly wise,” a “true visionary.” That is exceptionally high praise for someone who architected the institutionalization of quashing dissent through violence and imprisonment. As a very junior Foreign Service Officer in Embassy Addis’ political-economic section back then, I couldn’t believe my ears following Ambassador Rice’s eulogy; a considerable number of evenings were spent walking my dog around the Bole neighborhood, wondering what exactly we hoped to achieve with such troubling rhetoric (a vote of confidence in the new prime minister, Hailemariam Desalegn, I suppose). And last year, when President Obama became the first sitting president to visit Ethiopia, he publicly claimed that the Ethiopian government had been “democratically elected.” Yes, elections had recently been held, but these elections were marked by opposition intimidation, mass incarceration, and wholesale government control of information and media. Calling recent parliamentary elections “democratic” was a slap in the face to our own ideals, and ironically damaging to our long-term goals of assisting Ethiopia in developing true democracy.

So why do we do it, then? Why carry the water of a regime that seemingly goes out of its way to conduct a fresh round of journalist arrests just before an African Union summit? The reason, as far as I can surmise, is access, particularly access to a nominally stable bilateral relationship. There is a symbiosis between the American and Ethiopian governments, a need to point to our successes in developing a more prosperous Ethiopia. There is a dangling carrot model, in which the USG funnels hundreds of millions of dollars in developmental aid, and can partially reap the political benefits of sustained economic growth. Our aid dollars are working, officials say. And, to both governments’ credit, Ethiopia is far and away better off than it was before EPRDF took over. But that was almost twenty-five years ago. The baton handoff between the United States (and greater international community) and EPRDF for the underwriting of its citizens’ development is not happening anytime soon. Meanwhile, the American government manages to extract concessions from EPRDF that allow it to counter al-Shabaab in Somalia in as hands-off a manner possible (see: a drone base in Arba Minch, now closed; AMISOM). I often wonder if it all comes down to that fact.

The problem with this model is that, given conflicting definitions of good governance, there will come a time when a sufficiently-developed Ethiopia will no longer see the United States as a necessary (or even worthwhile) partner. We have already begun seeing the initial stages of this transition. If you travel to Addis Ababa today, you’ll see a city undergoing a near-total transformation. Construction sites are everywhere; a new light rail line weaves through the main streets. Invariably, these projects are Chinese-financed. (The most famous example is the new African Union headquarters, a USD $300 million “gift” from the Chinese government.) Like many sub-Saharan nations, perennially cash-strapped Ethiopia sees the opportunity of cheap infrastructure projects and industrial complexes as too good to pass up. Given the political threats against the U.S. Export-Import Bank, as well as the fact that the PRC government can undercut any American firm on price (in the most price-sensitive continental market), can you blame Ethiopia? A general principle on American aid is that it comes without strings attached. An hour in Addis will tell you that the United States has already lost the battle for Ethiopia’s economic partnership. On our current course, the day will inevitably come when EPRDF view of the United States government shifts from political partner to liability, and we’ll have lost the ear of Africa’s second-largest country.

Ethiopia currently finds itself at an inflection point, one in which measurable opposition to EPRDF grows by the day. By no means am I advocating for the United States government to fan the flames. The Ethio-American relationship is one of the longest-lasting and most storied in all of Africa. Backing EPRDF into a corner by throwing our support behind a nebulous, undefined opposition would threaten to undo more than a century of progress. But it is clear that the current system of sacrificing long-term political-economic growth and transformation in favor of the short-term gains of blanket accolades and hollow raising of concerns (a phrase used so ubiquitously that it is now shorthand for a shrug) is not working. Diplomacy is never simple, and it always moves slowly. It will be an even harder endeavor in Ethiopia in the near future, without freedom of movement for diplomats outside of the Addis Ababa outskirts without prior GOE approval, or Facebook, or Voice of America. But when the time comes for choosing whether or not to lavish praise on EPRDF, it is my sincere hope that the State Department will consider what an earnest application of our core values could mean to the 90 million people living outside of the Prime Minister’s palace in Arat Kilo, and choose to say nothing.

 

[Bernie Madoff]

@Canuck He's also this guy.

Thats my alias account you are talking to. You caught me

 

[Cadmus]

What will happen to the Somalis there if a civil war breaks out? Whats in their best interest? Are The Oromos/Amharas to be trusted or will they claim a bunch of somali villages?

Freedom is the name of the game for Somalis. habashi/oromo will most definitely try to claim Somali villages, but with no occupying forces cracking down on Somalis, 100 years of Somali anger would be unleashed as we all know Somalis can't be controlled by any outside force. It would allow Somalis in the Ogaden region to receive help from the qabils in the different regions. Not to mention, Egypt and the entire Sunni world standing by to come in and force habashi back. The Arab-coalitions don't give a damn about us, but they care about that DAM and their water supply, and that's all that matters really.

 

[Shamis]

Thats my alias account you are talking to. You caught me

I knew it was you because Canuck called you a Harari hence your alias!