Ethiopia: From Role Model to Cautionary Tale

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Cadmus

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Repenting Slave said:
Why were they arrested in Hargeisa to begin with? :ileycry: Why were they then released?
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They are all the criminals and illegals who were detained by the Silanyo gov for everything from drugs, prostitution, ORGAN theft, and even straight up cannibalism. There's some horrific mutilations going on there by Oromo's and amhara's, but the gov can't say sh*t because they want habashi $. But they finally learned to play the strategic game, setting them free and letting them burn down abyssinia instead of SL, thereby also currying favorable relations with the Oromo's. Absolutely genius of the SL gov. Xamar and Garowe should play the game as well.
 
Shamis

Shamis

Cadmus said:
They are all the criminals and illegals who were detained by the Silanyo gov for everything from drugs, prostitution, ORGAN theft, and even straight up cannibalism. There's some horrific mutilations going on there by Oromo's and amhara's, but the gov can't say sh*t because they want habashi $. But they finally learned to play the strategic game, setting them free and letting them burn down abyssinia instead of SL, thereby also currying favorable relations with the Oromo's. Absolutely genius of the SL gov. Xamar and Garowe should play the game as well.
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Were they at least deported? I hope not simply set free!
 
Cadmus

Cadmus

Repenting Slave said:
Unfortunately for them, this isn't the massive reform Germany asked for and it won't stop the protests. All they did was promote the stooges Oromo hated to begin with.
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Exactly, there's $500 million industrial factory production zone in Addis on the line, which will be funded by Germany.
Zie Germans have been spooked by the direct targeting of the foreign owned businesses (well done Egypt/UAE/US,) as Germany doesn't have a single penny to spare due to the massive derivatives black book of Deutsche Bank and the already poisonous Greek debt (owed mainly to German public banks i.e tax-payers.)
 
Canuck

Canuck

Cadmus said:
They are all the criminals and illegals who were detained by the Silanyo gov for everything from drugs, prostitution, ORGAN theft, and even straight up cannibalism. There's some horrific mutilations going on there by Oromo's and amhara's, but the gov can't say sh*t because they want habashi $. But they finally learned to play the strategic game, setting them free and letting them burn down abyssinia instead of SL, thereby also currying favorable relations with the Oromo's. Absolutely genius of the SL gov. Xamar and Garowe should play the game as well.
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Oromos behave themselves in dhulo cities, last summer dhulo shoot down Ethiopian brewer and his translator. In lasanod I saw a video about how the people made Oromo live in one big house only and they counted them only 200 men and one woman who worked at house and they are staying temporarily.
 
Cadmus

Cadmus

Repenting Slave said:
Were they at least deported? I hope not simply set free!
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They were indeed, the SL-ethio border is completely sealed for now.

No one in and no one out. habashi are afraid that Eritrea (where all the Sunnis + US have bases) will smuggle fighters across SL and attack the habashi soldiers at the Eritrea border from the back, while all the demo's are happening as distractions.
This is the real reason for the martial law, not the Oromo's.
 
Cadmus

Cadmus

Canuck said:
Oromos behave themselves in dhulo cities, last summer dhulo shoot down Ethiopian brewer and his translator. In lasanod I saw a video about how the people made Oromo live in one big house only and they counted them only 200 men and one woman who worked at house and they are staying temporarily.
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In the absence of modern state tech, that's actually brilliant.
 
Cadmus

Cadmus

Canuck said:
@Cadmus @Repenting Slave I have a good news about Somalia I don't want to ruin here but future is bright Ethiopia is out of pic in Somalia now, next year Kenya will leave also the region forces will take the place of amisom(future plans) SL will be part of federal system. The change is coming soon.
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I want to hear this, write me an email.

Next year you say, that's REALLY interesting. Is this the reason why they waited with the Off-shore licenses until 2017??
I was sent an email about this just yesterday!

http://www.reuters.com/article/africa-oil-somalia-idUSL8N1D22U9
"Nov 1 Somalia will launch its first hydrocarbon licensing round early next year targeting offshore blocks, a government official said on Tuesday."
 
Shamis

Shamis

The plot thickens. Clinton PAID to visit Ethiopia.

WikiLeaks: Sheikh Agreed to Pay Bill $2 Million Per Trip to Ethiopia
Clinton Foundation aide says 'unless Sheikh Mo has sent us a $6 million check, this sounds crazy to do'


A top Clinton Foundation official expressed reservations about former President Bill Clinton contacting a Saudi Arabian and Ethiopian billionaire to thank him for offering a plane ride to Ethiopia — unless it would mean a seven-figure donation.

According to a briefing memo contained in an email chain released by WikiLeaks, Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Al-Amoudi of Midroc had pledged to donate $20 million over 10 years to the Clinton Health Access Initiative. But an economic downturn caused the sheikh to delay payments. The health program did not receive payments in 2010 or 2011.

“Unless Sheikh Mo has sent us a $6 million check, this sounds crazy to do.”

In an email released by WikiLeaks Monday, Clinton Health Access Initiative CEO Ira Magaziner suggested in November 2011 that Clinton call the sheikh.

“CHAI would like to request that President Clinton call Sheikh Mohammed to thank him for offering his plane to the conference in Ethiopia and expressing regrets that President Clinton’s schedule does not permit him to attend the conference,” he wrote.

WikiLeaks released more of the email chain on Tuesday. Amitabh Desai, director of foreign policy at the foundation, expressed reservations — unless the sheikh had caught up with his financial commitment.

“Unless Sheikh Mo has sent us a $6 million check, this sounds crazy to do,” he responded.


But Bruce Lindsey, chairman of the Clinton Foundation's board of directors, argued in favor of the plan.

"I think they are hopeful if we do this it will help us get the $6 million," he wrote. "I think he [Clinton] should call."

The sheikh was born in Ethiopia to an Ethiopian mother and Saudi father. He later moved to Saudi Arabia and made a fortune in construction and real estate before buying oil refineries in Sweden and Morocco. He approached the Clinton Foundation in 2006 and proposed donating $2 million to the health program for every year that Clinton visited Ethiopia. The final agreement the parties struck mentioned a payment schedule but did not tie the money to Clinton's visits to the African country.

In 2008, the sheikh donated rooms at a Sheraton hotel in Ethiopia and meals for Clinton and a large party for four days — two days longer than originally planned because of aircraft problems.

According to Clinton Foundation documents, the sheikh contributed $5 million to $10 million, though it is unclear how much of that came after the email exchange.

The memo laid out strategies for getting the sheikh to cough up the money he owed and detailed discussions with George Salem, the sheikh's Washington-based lawyer, and Irvin Hicks, a former U.S. ambassador to Ethiopia and one of the sheikh's representatives in Washington.


"George Salem, Ambassador Hicks, and CHAI feel that it would be helpful if you would call the sheikh and thank him for offering the plane and saying you are sorry you can't attend ICASA," the memo stated, referring to the International Conference on AIDS and STIs in Africa. "We don't think it is necessary for YOU to bring up the payment issue directly."

Charles Ortel, a Wall Street analyst and critic of the Clinton Foundation, told The Daily Caller on Monday that accepting free travel and other benefits without declaring them for the Clinton Foundation could run afoul of tax law.

"It's highly illegal and it's likely that the owners of these aircraft took tax deductions as a gift to the Clinton Foundation," he told the news site.
 
Canuck

Canuck

Cadmus said:
I want to hear this, write me an email.

Next year you say, that's REALLY interesting. Is this the reason why they waited with the Off-shore licenses until 2017??
I was sent an email about this just yesterday!

http://www.reuters.com/article/africa-oil-somalia-idUSL8N1D22U9
"Nov 1 Somalia will launch its first hydrocarbon licensing round early next year targeting offshore blocks, a government official said on Tuesday."
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I tried tag in conversation with repenting slave but it didn't work, patience is virtue.
 
Canuck

Canuck

Repenting Slave said:
The plot thickens. Clinton PAID to visit Ethiopia.

WikiLeaks: Sheikh Agreed to Pay Bill $2 Million Per Trip to Ethiopia
Clinton Foundation aide says 'unless Sheikh Mo has sent us a $6 million check, this sounds crazy to do'


A top Clinton Foundation official expressed reservations about former President Bill Clinton contacting a Saudi Arabian and Ethiopian billionaire to thank him for offering a plane ride to Ethiopia — unless it would mean a seven-figure donation.

According to a briefing memo contained in an email chain released by WikiLeaks, Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Al-Amoudi of Midroc had pledged to donate $20 million over 10 years to the Clinton Health Access Initiative. But an economic downturn caused the sheikh to delay payments. The health program did not receive payments in 2010 or 2011.

“Unless Sheikh Mo has sent us a $6 million check, this sounds crazy to do.”

In an email released by WikiLeaks Monday, Clinton Health Access Initiative CEO Ira Magaziner suggested in November 2011 that Clinton call the sheikh.

“CHAI would like to request that President Clinton call Sheikh Mohammed to thank him for offering his plane to the conference in Ethiopia and expressing regrets that President Clinton’s schedule does not permit him to attend the conference,” he wrote.

WikiLeaks released more of the email chain on Tuesday. Amitabh Desai, director of foreign policy at the foundation, expressed reservations — unless the sheikh had caught up with his financial commitment.

“Unless Sheikh Mo has sent us a $6 million check, this sounds crazy to do,” he responded.


But Bruce Lindsey, chairman of the Clinton Foundation's board of directors, argued in favor of the plan.

"I think they are hopeful if we do this it will help us get the $6 million," he wrote. "I think he [Clinton] should call."

The sheikh was born in Ethiopia to an Ethiopian mother and Saudi father. He later moved to Saudi Arabia and made a fortune in construction and real estate before buying oil refineries in Sweden and Morocco. He approached the Clinton Foundation in 2006 and proposed donating $2 million to the health program for every year that Clinton visited Ethiopia. The final agreement the parties struck mentioned a payment schedule but did not tie the money to Clinton's visits to the African country.

In 2008, the sheikh donated rooms at a Sheraton hotel in Ethiopia and meals for Clinton and a large party for four days — two days longer than originally planned because of aircraft problems.

According to Clinton Foundation documents, the sheikh contributed $5 million to $10 million, though it is unclear how much of that came after the email exchange.

The memo laid out strategies for getting the sheikh to cough up the money he owed and detailed discussions with George Salem, the sheikh's Washington-based lawyer, and Irvin Hicks, a former U.S. ambassador to Ethiopia and one of the sheikh's representatives in Washington.


"George Salem, Ambassador Hicks, and CHAI feel that it would be helpful if you would call the sheikh and thank him for offering the plane and saying you are sorry you can't attend ICASA," the memo stated, referring to the International Conference on AIDS and STIs in Africa. "We don't think it is necessary for YOU to bring up the payment issue directly."

Charles Ortel, a Wall Street analyst and critic of the Clinton Foundation, told The Daily Caller on Monday that accepting free travel and other benefits without declaring them for the Clinton Foundation could run afoul of tax law.

"It's highly illegal and it's likely that the owners of these aircraft took tax deductions as a gift to the Clinton Foundation," he told the news site.
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Al-Amoudi'S father is Yemeni not Saudi later he was stripped from Saudi citizenship during first gulf war in1991. Yemeni government supported Iraq and requested from the top richest traders(who have Saudi nationality but ethnicity are Yemenis) to return to Yemen as way to pressure the financial sector in Saudi. Too bad Yemeni let them down later.
 
Shamis

Shamis

This is why Oromo people don't care about cabinet reshuffle


"People are demanding a new democratic government elected by the people. To really meet protesters' demands, the government should release political prisoners, they should remove the military from villages, towns and universities and start a dialogue on a transition to a more democratic government," he told IBTimes UK.

Mohammed, who lives in the US, also claimed Ethiopians have not been affected by the state of emergency , with the exception of a restriction on internet access.

"Oromia has been under a state of emergency for the last 12 months, the military is there, all the civil and political rights have been suspended, people have been arrested," he alleged.

"Yes, some media outlets have been banned, but this is nothing new. OMN has been jammed some 20 times since March 2014. Even before the state of emergency, they were already arresting people, breaking down satellite dishes and jamming our transmission, what they did now was to officially admit what they were already doing and reassure investors that they are taking measures, beefing up security."
 
Shamis

Shamis

Media Network executive Jawar Mohammed believes Ethiopia wants him dead

Jawar Mohammed, political analyst and executive director of the Oromia Media Network (OMN), believes the Ethiopian government would kill him, should he return to his homeland.

Mohammed,30, is an ethnic Oromo. He grew up in Dhummuga, a small town located in Oromia, Ethiopia's largest state. During his childhood, Mohammed went to school in Asela and Adama and left his homeland in 2003 on a schoolarship to study in Singapore.

He later moved to the US to study political science at Stanford University and Human Rights at the Columbia.

"I came here as a student, not as a refugee. But right now, I am probably the most wanted person by the Ethiopian government and I think the government is willing to kill me if they have a chance," Mohammed, who is based in Minneapolis, alleged during a phone interview with IBTimes UK.

"Every time I appear on television, for the last few months, the government is all over the place condemning me and calling me a terrorist, an agitator and an enemy of the state."

Oromo people 'are making history'

In October, Ethiopia declared a six-month-long state of emergency following unrest in Oromia, and occasionally in Amhara.

The response to the protests, labelled as the biggest anti-government unrest Ethiopia has witnessed in recent history, has resulted in the death of more than 500 people since November 2015, a figure the government later confirmed.

In Oromia, people demonstrated against perceived disenfranchisement and lack of inclusion in the political process as the government is dominated by the Tigray minority. They also called for an end to land grabbing, claiming Oromo farmers are forcibly evicted from their farms.

Mohammed is a strong supporter of the protests as he believes Ethiopia "needs a regime change and the installation of a government elected by the people."

"Oromo people are making history, they have been fighting for freedom, dignity and self-determination for almost 50 years now. In the last couple of years they struggled intensified, has become more strategic, coordinated and unified, it has weakened the government and has inspired other people in Ethiopia and the region," he said.

Under the state of emergency, Ethiopia banned certain media outlets, including OMN.

"The government believes OMN and social media, Facebook particularly, are used to mobilise, agitate, coordinate people. The government sees this as a way to undermine their control over the population," Mohammed claimed.

Mohammed believes it is too dangerous for him to go to Ethiopia right now. However, he said he is planning to return. "Going back is not an potion at the moment, but in the future, I will return and fight with my people."
 
Galaeri

Galaeri

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Nooooooo. HE WASNT REEEAAAADDDYYYY
raw
 
Shamis

Shamis

Discontent grows louder in Ethiopia as regime fights for survival
Arrest of opposition leader Merera Gudina follows months of anti-government protests

Angered by the arrest of Merera Gudina, his party leader, hours earlier for allegedly “making contact with terrorist groups”, a senior figure in Ethiopia’s opposition said he was willing to commit a crime under the country’s strict state of emergency laws by criticising the ruling party.

The Oromo Federal Congress executive, who asked for anonymity, was scathing about the Ethiopian People’s Revolutionary Democratic Front, the coalition that has governed the African nation for 25 years and controls every seat in the Addis Ababa parliament.

“People want total change. This means the EPRDF has to hold a free and fair election,” he told the Financial Times in an interview. “But they interpret that as wanting to overthrow the government by force. They will cut your neck for saying so.”

At first glance Addis Ababa, a city of more than 3m people at the centre of one of the continent’s fastest-growing economies, appears to be normal. But beneath the surface it is clear that Ethiopia’s authoritarian rulers are in a fight for survival as they combat unprecedented levels of discontent.

The regime, which is dominated by ethnic Tigrayans, who comprise only 6 per cent of the population, admits that more than 500 people have probably been killed since anti-government protests began 13 months ago. Two months into what is expected to be a six-month state of emergency, 11,600 people have been arrested.

Ethiopia faces its Tiananmen Square moment[/paste:font]
Alarmed by a wave of protests, the regime has answered as the Chinese did in 1989 — with bullets

Opposition groups say the real figures are several times this. However, both sides’ claims are impossible to verify since neither gives evidence and the internet has been shut down in vast swaths of the country, stifling communication.

The strategy of Hailemariam Desalegn, prime minister since the death in 2012 of long-time strongman Meles Zenawi, appears to be to crush dissent, reshuffle the cabinet and focus on inclusive growth.

“Our democratisation process is still nascent,” he said recently. “It is moving in the right direction, but it has not yet come up with inclusive engagement.”

Diplomats in Addis Ababa described the government’s response as “superficial”. “They have failed to address the underlying grievances that caused the protests in the first place,” one said.

Demonstrations began in November 2015 in opposition to a government plan to extend Addis Ababa into the surrounding Oromia region. The initiative was eventually shelved but the heavy-handed response brought deeper-rooted complaints to the surface.

These included perceived inequitable benefits from more than a decade of double-digit economic growth, nepotism, land-grabbing and a lack of democracy. Memories of a brutal government crackdown after the 2005 election remain strong.

The protests spread to Amhara, and the peoples of the two regions, who make up 65 per cent of the population but for decades have rarely seen eye-to-eye, became united in opposition to the regime. But rather than engage their opponents, the ruling elite became inward-looking and repressive.

“Even if they bring gold and diamonds, people have given up on this government,” said a student activist, too afraid to give his name. “They will do whatever it takes to see change. The only question is how long it will take. Maybe five years, we hope only one.”
 
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