Somalis were monotheistic before Islam, not confused edgy atheists.
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There’s nothing to claim when you’re literally Somali. It’s impossible to remove someone’s identity from them and also extremely haramI feel bad when I see gaalo on here fighting to claim somalinimo, you guys will never be accepted so there is no point. I know a saudi influencer who is known to be gaal and shit talks islam while living in Saudi, but they keep her behavior under wraps. You guys neede to understand that Somalis are very tight about Islam and we will never give you any leeway, if that influencer was Somali, she'd already be in jail.
Somali ethnogenuses wasn’t tied to Waaqifanna either so it doesn’t matter what they believed in.
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sure budThere’s nothing to claim when you’re literally Somali. It’s impossible to remove someone’s identity from them and also extremely haram
Miss me with the attitude Madame Absame. Your brother clan is literally named Jidwaaqsure bud
I feel bad when I see gaalo on here fighting to claim somalinimo, you guys will never be accepted so there is no point. I know a saudi influencer who is known to be gaal and shit talks islam while living in Saudi, but they keep her behavior under wraps. You guys neede to understand that Somalis are very tight about Islam and we will never give you any leeway, if that influencer was Somali, she'd already be in jail.
I was born with two Somali parents. A father that descended from a major Somali clan. I descended from his linage (which makes me genetically and traditionally 100% Somali) You have no rights in stripping my identity away from me. Islam is not unique to Somalis considering islam is a universal religion. That has followers around the world. You’re telling me a Pakistani is more Somali than a person with a Somali father? Get out off my face.
Somalis have history kicking out anyone who doesn’t align with them.
Case study: Tomal groups, Somali bantus, and reer xamars. Who are majority muslim. Craziest part is Tomal groups who are ethnically Somali are ostracised out off the community. How does that makes any sense considering they’re ethnically and religiously Muslim?
This is a pattern that I’m seeing here. Somalis kick out anyone who doesn’t think nor act like them. Barbaric and tribal groups who subscribes to ignorance.
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Tomal, Bantus and reer xamar are also outcased and they are majority Muslim. Are you telling me they’re not Somali when the majority are Muslim? You guys should get your priority straight.
What makes you a Somali?
A father (that descend from a major clan)
Having two Somali biological parents
Speaking the Somali language and growing up in Somalia and integrating to the culture.
And descending from a Somali clan (major clan especially).
What was Somali "ethnogenesis " tied to then?
What is it with niggas twisting somali history to make themselves feel better.
Tumals are blacksmitchs and metal workers, there is not a single society where metalworkers and craftsman have high status in a society. But they are not outcasts.
Bantus descend from slaves brought from Tanzania and were converted by their Somali owners, although racial discrimination exists, they are not outcasts.
Reer xamar have no Somali lineage as they are a community of mixed people who are primarily merchants, they may not have high standing in Somali society but they are also not outcasts.
Do not spread misinformation
Waaq is found in other east cushitic nations so it is clear that this monotheist religion came to our ancestors before Somalis even existed. A Prophet to the ancestors of the original East cushites that preached monothiesm?>
Different times, the colonial period and the 30+ years of carnage since late 1980s are our dark ages. Mariano later on reverted.Michael Mariano - Wikipedia
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You're using someone who was an orphan and taken by catholic whites loll wasn't this the reason Sayyid gave for his war no? And every one of those politicians i heard of converted back to islam in later life.Michael Mariano - Wikipedia
Tumaal, Madhibaan and other ethnic somali clans that practice crafts or hunting are not outcasted, the hatred against them is overplayed. People don’t know they also have a lot of livestock.
Major clans did not treat them as some sort of dalits which some somalis are pushing. Undeniably there exist some dislike, outright hatred against them but whats the difference between that and the hatred between major clans? None in my opinion.
Matter of fact our traditional religious orders (sufi tariqas) were major source of protection and uplifting of reer Gabooye. Many sheikhs are Gabooye, matter of fact Madhibaan comes from a name of a sheikh. Also dislike against Gabooyes (umbrella term) varies wildly, down south they are not hated like in the north.
I also do not believe folks who were hunting lions and leopards were getting bítched on by others. This is a personal opinion though.
You’re not being honest. The 4.5 system exist for a reason. Somali minorities aren’t included under the 4.5 Instead they’re excluded under any political mainstream discussion. Now if this isn’t being outcast then I don’t know what is.
Most Somalis look down on marrying minorities. Another case study: There’s a stigma in marrying and including Somali Bantus in mainstream Somali society. They had history in wanting to be part of Somali politics. What’s funny is I have more privilege than them due to being from a major clan.
I see Somali Bantus as culturally Somali but biologically would be debatable.
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This discussion is not being addressed properly. If Islam is the major identity which Somalis are fighting for then explain the civil war? Why couldn’t Somalis come together as one nation under the Ummah banner? Why did they have to kill each other over clan bullshit. which supports my case when I say Somalis are clan based society not religious based. Sure the majority are Muslim which is somewhat true. But are they following what Islam prohibits?
If you don’t consider me Somali that’s on you and that’s okay. I have a father that’s Somali came from a major clan. Unless you guys can change to rule that’s on you but biology says otherwise.
Biology >>>>> religion.
You and I are not on the same page. My original point was a kafir somali is somali however he/she is effectively exiled. Thats a line you can’t cross in our society. A murderous scum will walk freely but the moment he says he is gaal, he is banished. Even though he should have been killed long time ago.
You are arguing with the wrong person.
Somalis don't marry bantus because they're a different race that's the stigma, so?? There are many cases like this in pretty much every country including Muslims.
4.5 exists to make sure there is balance of power between the major clans, it's a flawed system and is a recent innovation.
You're grabbing at staws here you have less power in Somalia than an illegal galla muslim
They are not Somalis as they're of foreign dna but they are a part of thr nation.
You have no privilege, if you were an open gaal in Somalia you cannot have a public life. Forget doing anything which relies on the goodwill of other somali. You may even face death in rural towns. If that isn't called an outcast idk what is.
You’re saying that gaalo should be killed for just for leaving? Can you address that again. Because I didn’t read that correctly.
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