Fighting breaks out between FGS & Jubbaland forces in Ras Kamboni

[Midas]

I think the fact that he was the one that went on the offensive and attacked says a lot if that is in fact what happened. How come the Hawiye troops didn’t feel confident enough to attack or move forward from ras kambooni?

I think that's just because ahmed madobe was obviously nervous. The longer he waits the more chance hsm has of brining something that could tilt the odds to his side .

 

[six]

Even if Madoobe won today, this will just reassure the international stakeholders in Somalia that federalism is a waste and just contributes to instability, I feel like they will back HSM on this and ensure that the central government under the next administration will be much stronger to face the threats of uncooperative and downright traitorous federal admins.

 

[TheLand]

Even if Madoobe won today, this will just reassure the international stakeholders in Somalia that federalism is a waste and just contributes to instability, I feel like they will back HSM on this and ensure that the central government under the next administration will be much stronger to face the threats of uncooperative and downright traitorous federal admins.

What you are saying makes no logical sense. The instability is clearly caused by Qoslaaye. The international community isn’t stupid and won’t be outsmarted by any maryooley anytime soon. I’m not sure how you conclude federalism is a waste from these events other than that you don’t like federalism and are projecting.

 

[six]

What you are saying makes no logical sense. The instability is clearly caused by Qoslaaye. The international community isn’t stupid and won’t be outsmarted by any maryooley anytime soon. I’m not sure how you conclude federalism is a waste from these events other than that you don’t like federalism and are projecting.

LMAO, how can I not like federalism? If we balkanise my state will be one of the richest. I'm just saying, that the IC supports an FGS at present and it's been that way for a long time. They won't care about who caused the instability at all, it's because a mere federal governor holds more influence than the President in parts of the country that they will be wary of. Imagine if the Governor of California could block Biden from entering lol, that's how absurd this is.

 

[Noble]

Tears

 

[TheLand]

LMAO, how can I not like federalism? If we balkanise my state will be one of the richest. I'm just saying, that the IC supports an FGS at present and it's been that way for a long time. They won't care about who caused the instability at all, it's because a mere federal governor holds more influence than the President in parts of the country that they will be wary of. Imagine if the Governor of California could block Biden from entering lol, that's how absurd this is.

They don’t care about that at all, otherwise they’d already be pushing for centralization. They’ve said time and again that they want something that all stakeholders agree to, and their actions have been aligned with those statements. They know that if Somalis don’t agree on whatever path they take it will just lead to collapse all over again. They are right about that. If Somalis agree to centralization they will support that but it can never be one sided. People need to see that bigger picture and not whether someone could be blocked from going to a specific place. Those are minor details in the grand scheme of things which is why you will never see the IC even address it.

 

[six]

They don’t care about that at all, otherwise they’d already be pushing for centralization. They’ve said time and again that they want something that all stakeholders agree to, and their actions have been aligned with those statements. They know that if Somalis don’t agree on whatever path they take it will just lead to collapse all over again. They are right about that. If Somalis agree to centralization they will support that but it can never be one sided. People need to see that bigger picture and not whether someone could be blocked from going to a specific place. Those are minor details in the grand scheme of things which is why you will never see the IC even address it.

Fair enough

 

[Noble]

What a hypocrite
he's a smooth talker like a typical politician.

 

[TheLand]

Fair enough

You support federalism cause of GM?

 

[Somali Saayid]

Kenyan forces are claiming to have recieved hundreds of SNA deserters after today's battle, I think this is indicative of a JL victory. If HSM's gamble has failed miserably and Madobe has won a decisive victory.

Some of the photos circulating online have been difficult to independently verify.

I noticed JL brought out the big boys for the battle today. Zu-23, Seekawe, DHSK, and Hoobiye were all supposedly use with great effect on softening up the defensive positions of the SNA troops.

 

[TheLand]

What a hypocrite

These are the kind of leaders that destroy us and hold us back as a people. Just disgusting shameless stuff.

 

[Webb]

Kenyan forces are claiming to have recieved hundreds of SNA deserters after today's battle, I think this is indicative of a JL victory. If HSM's gamble has failed miserably and Madobe has won a decisive victory.

Some of the photos circulating online have been difficult to independently verify.
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I noticed JL brought out the big boys for the battle today. Zu-23, Seekawe, DHSK, and Hoobiye were all supposedly use with great effect on softening up the defensive positions of the SNA troops.

Tears everyone u support ends up losing

 

[Somali Saayid]

Tears everyone u support ends up losing

I dont support anyone here?

 

[six]

You support federalism cause of GM?

I did, but recently I've become disillusioned with the corruption of HSM and QQ, so I'm mostly focusing on the development of Xamar and Hobyo. I've been supporting federalism since I believe that it's the only method forward for Somalis, but I've had more conversations with my MX and MJ family members so I'm more inclined to working together and building a system that supports us all IA.

 

[Somali Saayid]

I did, but recently I've become disillusioned with the corruption of HSM and QQ, so I'm mostly focusing on the development of Xamar and Hobyo. I've been supporting federalism since I believe that it's the only method forward for Somalis, but I've had more conversations with my MX and MJ family members so I'm more inclined to working together and building a system that supports us all IA.

I'm guessing you are a HG?

 

[Abdisamad]

interesting.

What I told you, there's no goverment just a retarded moryan administration, look at the abgaal niggaz on this thread celebrating the war, they're looking to loot kismayo and take your adeer Mr Blackie as hostage

 

[six]

I'm guessing you are a HG?

Saleebaan. But my subclan is far away from the reer Cadaado folk.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

Even if Madoobe won today, this will just reassure the international stakeholders in Somalia that federalism is a waste and just contributes to instability, I feel like they will back HSM on this and ensure that the central government under the next administration will be much stronger to face the threats of uncooperative and downright traitorous federal admins.

I ain't a fan of Madoobe and I think reer JL can do way better than this useless guy but this situation just strengthen the federalism/autonomy case and why never let the so called SNA operate in your region.

 

[TheLand]

What I told you, there's no goverment just a retarded moryan administration, look at the abgaal niggaz on this thread celebrating the war, they're looking to loot kismayo and take your adeer Mr Blackie as hostage

The end of HSM second term

 

[TheLand]

Hearing from Kismaayo dabaaldag, people out in the street celebrating. Many wounded brought in from FGS. They are being told in the hospitals to call their families to pay for treatment.