Future of north Somalia

Federal Somalia is a darood scam. If Somaliland ever turns to Federalism, they should cut the territory in two, one capital in Laascaanood and one capital in Borama.
So, if the people of Somaliland decide to separate from Somalia it's fine but if the Dhulbahante and Warsangeli don't want to be part of Somaliland it's a problem?😂😂
 
So, if the people of Somaliland decide to separate from Somalia it's fine but if the Dhulbahante and Warsangeli don't want to be part of Somaliland it's a problem?😂😂


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So, if the people of Somaliland decide to separate from Somalia it's fine but if the Dhulbahante and Warsangeli don't want to be part of Somaliland it's a problem?😂😂
Its colonial borders. Their claim to being the successor to British Somaliland would fall flat if they don't control all of that former colony's territory. Its ultimately self destructive
 
This country really cant work without a dictatorship sorting everything out, bending to the whims of pastorals will ultimately lead us to nowhere.
 
OP you're such a weakling already capitulating to Darood demands. War wuxu jilicsana. You're the type a guy to give up his futo on the first day in jail. At best, we control the majority of these regions like it was prior to 2023, at worst we keep these regions disputed territories and build our side until we launch another offensive to recapture it.


Bending over to Darood demands or FGS without clear and heavy concessions is an idiotic move.
 
OP you're such a weakling already capitulating to Darood demands. War wuxu jilicsana. You're the type a guy to give up his futo on the first day in jail. At best, we control the majority of these regions like it was prior to 2023, at worst we keep these regions disputed territories and build our side until we launch another offensive to recapture it.


Bending over to Darood demands or FGS without clear and heavy concessions is an idiotic move.
You’re calling me the weakling here when you keep using this “Darood” boogeyman nonsense, it’s been 30 years brother get over it. The only ones we have to worry about are Harti and they’re not exactly on the best terms right now are they.

I’m not sure if you are aware but I don’t care for SL - it’s a useless colonial project that’s done nothing for the people. I am not pro FGS, this is just my personal opinion on the best possible future for north Somalia, past this current FGS.

Personally I would prefer to see a developed isaaq state over controlling other peoples lands whilst your own people die of hunger. If that means I “capitulate to Darood demands” then I’ll accept that 🤷🏾‍♂️
 
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You’re calling me the weakling here when you keep using this “Darood” boogeyman nonsense, it’s been 30 years brother get over it. The only ones we have to worry about are Harti and they’re not exactly on the best terms right now are they.

I’m not sure if you are aware but I don’t care for SL - it’s a useless colonial project that’s done nothing for the people. I am not pro FGS, this is just my personal opinion on the best possible future for north Somalia, past this current FGS.

Personally I would prefer to see a developed isaaq state over controlling other peoples lands with your own people dying of hunger. If that means I “capitulate to Darood demands” then I’ll accept that 🤷🏾‍♂️
are you GX?
 
You’re calling me the weakling here when you keep using this “Darood” boogeyman nonsense, it’s been 30 years brother get over it. The only ones we have to worry about are Harti and they’re not exactly on the best terms right now are they.

I’m not sure if you are aware but I don’t care for SL - it’s a useless colonial project that’s done nothing for the people. I am not pro FGS, this is just my personal opinion on the best possible future for north Somalia, past this current FGS.

Personally I would prefer to see a developed isaaq state over controlling other peoples lands with your own people dying of hunger. If that means I “capitulate to Darood demands” then I’ll accept that 🤷🏾‍♂️


Darood are a boogeyman but not with your politics. Your politics empowers them and disempowers you for no real gain other than please like me, lol. That's why the low T is a fair point.

Darood deserve nothing but contempt.

Somaliland's independence is a real problem for them so they fight it night and day and you want to give up your only political lifeline to them? They can use the legal authorities in Mogadishu to wrap up any business you think you have going on and favour their own regions just like before and Berbera will dry up before you eyes.

You need to get with the politics or the real politiks.
 
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You’re calling me the weakling here when you keep using this “Darood” boogeyman nonsense, it’s been 30 years brother get over it. The only ones we have to worry about are Harti and they’re not exactly on the best terms right now are they.

I’m not sure if you are aware but I don’t care for SL - it’s a useless colonial project that’s done nothing for the people. I am not pro FGS, this is just my personal opinion on the best possible future for north Somalia, past this current FGS.

Personally I would prefer to see a developed isaaq state over controlling other peoples lands whilst your own people die of hunger. If that means I “capitulate to Darood demands” then I’ll accept that 🤷🏾‍♂️
Op you’re right but these other landers who are calling you out are just spiteful and hypocritical.

They cant see the logic if SL wants to leave SOM then the same claim SCC is making should also be given validity. Honestly they shot themselves in the foot. You cant make someone want to join you by waging war on them,

This is the same mistake russia made when invading ukraine all its neighbours states which weren’t puppets wanted to join nato. Only bringing the nato border closer which was the opposite of their goal.

We should honestly be focusing on the lands that want to stay united and developing them rather than fighting to keep niggas who don’t want us to stay in.
 
Darood are a boogeyman but not with your politics. Your politics empowers them and disempowers you for no real gain other than please like me, lol. That's why the low T is a fair point.

Darood deserve nothing but contempt.
I posted a pic of 3 Darood states in waqooyi and 1 big isaaq state. But apparently I “empower” them
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fairs man. One thing that does empower them is grouping them together though, which you seem to do a lot.

And no way you can be calling others low T, this was your army during the heat of battle 👇🏾

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Garxajis SNM officers used to fight in war head on and take bullets to the chest, unfortunately we have had a demographic change and now look at this nonsense.
 
I posted a pic of 3 Darood states in waqooyi and 1 big isaaq state. But apparently I “empower” them View attachment 340538 fairs man. One thing that does empower them is grouping them together though, which you seem to do a lot.

And no way you can be calling others low T, this was your army during the heat of battle 👇🏾

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Garxajis SNM officers used to fight in war head on and take bullets to the chest, unfortunately we have had a demographic change and now look at this nonsense.

Those are lands where Isaaq live. What does that mean though? It means that the national government of Darood will just by pass your areas for development, investment etc, it's not rocket science really. You are practicing google street view politics and they practice national and international politics. You will get isolated and shut down just like under Kacaan which is their dominant central ideology. They don't have the fire power to do genocide and replace Isaaq with Ogaden like they tried last time but they will just isolate you and negate you out of any kind of self-sufficiency until you come begging to them.

Your politics is just one to be liked. This forum will try and gaslight you out of your own interests and into theirs and you make jokes like them too.

I'm gonna try and get to the heart of what you are thinking but basically it's this; You don't have a license to develop your tribal areas in the way you see fit and to engage with other countries and governments. Somaliland does this because it's a defacto country. It doesn't consider itself a part of Somalia and doesn't defer to the national politics. Puntland is realizing what you don't yet understand that the central government would sooner make you poor and under control than have anything like you currently experience. And this is not going to ever change. No new Hawiye or Darood are going to turn up as they've been handed the FGS and if the FGS collapses or falls there will be no new one.
 
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@Itsnotthateasy this is my thoughts on the topic.
Honestly in hindsight 1960 agreement should have never happened, but there’s nothing you can do to change the past and if ictiraaf is never coming you have to work with what you have.

Power-sharing agreement will happen soon but I just need Puntland to do their’s first. Those rats are definitely going to try and get everything we get their whole foreign policy is to just copy us.

I just want Hong Kong style arrangement, with a break clause agreed by UN nothing less.
 
So what’s the alternative then? Independence? Because where has that got us.

I’m just talking best case scenario. At the end of the day, having a developed Isaaq Region being a part of a stable, successful Somalia will always be the best option.

You need stable successful people to have a stable successful country. I don't believe in Hawiye or Darood to be stable or succesful, just different breeds of maniac. Only Majerteen who dominated early democratic politics are normal the rest are a write off.
 
At best, we control the majority of these regions like it was prior to 2023, at worst we keep these regions disputed territories and build our side until we launch another offensive to recapture it.
Will you guys leave your weapons behind like you did last year?😂😂
 
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5 autonomous federal regions

Scrap all that Sool/Sanaag/Togdheer/ etc. nonsense. It’s done nothing for us for decades now learn and move on from the past and it’s just clan-speak noawadays. You will see a Dhulo from Buuhodle sing Sooley and HJ from Caynaba sing Anigaba togdheer baa what the hell is this. Something needs to change
5 autonomous kulaha. Warya Somaliland's soverginity and territorial integrity is untouchable nor is it negotiable! you understand that fake "berbera boy"? :stopit:
 
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