G25 results & models (relevant discussions as well)

[Garaad Awal]

I dont think tihama and hadhramawt, when i researched some have significant bantu level between 20% to 40%. This would have showed in my result like 5% or more bantu (20 divide by 4= 5%). I think if i have yemani than its most likely from a group of people known as yemani al jawf, it shows in the modern population mixed mode from illustrative but i dont know whether to trust the results.


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my cousin mixed mode

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The average Yemeni from those regions are not 20-40% Bantu…those are the SSA outliers

 

[giire12]

The average Yemeni from those regions are not 20-40% Bantu…those are the SSA outliers

I read too many articles that point Tihama region and Hadharamout to be the most mixed with Eastern African slave trade and have up to 20% african eastern bantu visible on their modern population. Its an interesting topic.

 

[Garaad Awal]

Coastal Arabians are heavily admixed or have minor admixture. The interior Bedouins & isolated farming settlements tend to have pure Arabians with very high levels of J-P58 and little to no foreign admixture since the Islamic period started

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

@Garaad Awal take a look at my prediction from 5 years ago.

The level of Oromo admixture will likely differ among the various clans, with the Dir having the highest level due to partial assimilation and a long residence in the region. They are probably followed by the Geri, and then the Jidwaaq. I very much doubt that the Ogaden, in Ethiopia, have any Oromo admixture. I would posit that the Habar Awal have more Oromo admixture than the Ogaden of Ethiopia. With the Omotic component serving as a proxy for Oromo admixture, I would estimate that none of these groups have any more than 5% of the average genome coming from the Omotic component, with there being a cline downwards from the assimilated Hawiye and Dir.
There is no evidence for any of this as we do not yet have genomic data for clans.

Somalis being a randomly mating population have created their own tight cluster in the horn. It is very easy to identify a Somali genetically. Anyone outside of that tight cluster is not an ethnic Somali as we have historically understood it. The Somalis that are likely to be the least admixed are those from the Hawd, of any clan, excluding the Sheekhaal.

 

[Garaad Awal]

@Garaad Awal take a look at my prediction from 5 years ago.

It’s more complex but you definitely predicted some trends early.

 

[Garaad Awal]

Ran these Somalis using all the Pastoral_N samples including the Elmenteitan and only 1 PIA sample

My baby using those same Cushitic samples as above

Target: Child_Garaad Distance: 1.2883% / 0.01288259
46.2	Cushitic
28.6	Berber_Morocco
10.0	Moroccan_Jew
8.8	Yemeni
4.4	West_African
2.0	Spanish_Andalucia

 

[NidarNidar]

Ran these Somalis using all the Pastoral_N samples including the Elmenteitan and only 1 PIA sample

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My baby using those same Cushitic samples as above

Target: Child_Garaad Distance: 1.2883% / 0.01288259
46.2	Cushitic
28.6	Berber_Morocco
10.0	Moroccan_Jew
8.8	Yemeni
4.4	West_African
2.0	Spanish_Andalucia

Is that Samarone sample mine by any chance?

 

[Garaad Awal]

Is that Samarone sample mine by any chance?

Yes it is walaal.You are the closest to me distance-wise from the private cords that I have from various Somali regions/clans.

 

[NidarNidar]

Yes it is walaal.You are the closest to me distance-wise from the private cords that I have from various Somali regions/clans.

Where about are you from back home?

 

[Garaad Awal]

Where about are you from back home?

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[NidarNidar]

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Gabiley is so close to my birthplace, not surprised we are so close distance wise.

 

[Garaad Awal]

Gabiley is so close to my birthplace, not surprised we are so close distance wise.

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[Garaad Hirabu]

Who am I closest related to?

 

[NidarNidar]

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I was born in Boroma, I assume your haplogroup T as well.

On my 23andme I have Somalis relatives from all regions that are 2nd cousins.

You'll need upload your 23&me raws into illustrate DNA, it's like 28 bucks, once you do that you'll get cords from them.

 

[Garaad Awal]

Who am I closest related to?

You are closest to my father who is pure Sacad Muuse with a Tol Jeclo grandmother

Distance to:	Jubaland_Marehan_scaled
0.02724450	Garaad_Father
0.02781882	South/Central_Somali_scaled
0.02894228	Garaad_Awal
0.03007026	Puntland_Somalia
0.03191093	Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_23S
0.03325318	Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_35S
0.03378603	Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_61S
0.03406626	Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_40S
0.03427121	Samarone_Awdal
0.03440004	Garaad_Mother
0.03480037	Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_41S
0.03484462	Ashraaf_Ethiopia
0.03523631	Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO20
0.03582967	Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_69S
0.03633680	Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_34S
0.04127209	Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO7
0.04154156	Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_21S
0.04157233	Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO8
0.04158690	Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO2
0.04187310	Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_52S
0.04321484	Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO21
0.04358945	Ethiopian_Wolayta:WOLAYTA5
0.04374748	Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO3
0.04446777	Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_43S
0.04620497	Ethiopian_Wolayta:WOLAYTA1
0.04685584	Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO16
0.04794844	Ethiopian_Wolayta:WOLAYTA7
0.05451169	Tumaal_scaled
0.05574967	Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO1
0.06436398	Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO9
0.06828172	Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO6
0.06928356	Burco_Somaliland
0.06957121	Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO15
0.07263406	Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO18
0.07388935	Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO19
0.08334991	Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO13
0.08792257	Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO5
0.09111099	Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO11
0.10087669	Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO12
0.13476954	Sacad_Muse_Giire

 

[Garaad Awal]

I was born in Boroma, I assume your haplogroup T as well.

No, Habar Awal mostly belong to this clade of E-V32.My sample is uploaded under the Ethiopian flag

E-Y219427 YTree

www.yfull.com

 

[Garaad Hirabu]

@Garaad Awal did your father and me share a close family relative or is it the dna components?

 

[Garaad Awal]

@Garaad Awal did your father and me share a close family relative or is it the dna components?

My father just has low Arabian like you (he is only 2% Arabian) and has Mota ancestry but slightly more than you

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

@Garaad Hirabu are you a Mudug Marehan or Jubaland?
Also your subclan and whether your family is guri or galti.

Thanks

 

[Garaad Hirabu]

@Garaad Hirabu are you a Mudug Marehan or Jubaland?
Also your subclan and whether your family is guri or galti.

Thanks

Im rer Gedo Marehan since 1910 all my ancestors since 1910 were born in Gedo, I'm rer Diini ugaas sharmarke . On 23andme, I have 2nd cousins Cumar Mohamud MJ, which I was aware of also 2nd cousins from Awdal and ll over central somalia.I also have Kenya Boran relatives further up.