G25 results & models (relevant discussions as well)

[giire12]

Run her using this model:
Cushitic:Kenya_Pastoral_IA,-0.4120395,0.080227,-0.015085,-0.0437665,0.002308,-0.026913,-0.009753,0.005884,0.107068,-0.086744,-0.016807,0.0037465,-0.018954,0.0026145,0.0211725,-0.0235345,0.014994,-0.00057,0.014581,-0.011693,0.0016225,0.00915,-0.005238,-0.001627,-0.0011375
Cushitic:Kenya_Pastoral_N,-0.3004929,0.0954598,-0.0263607,-0.0737732,0.0007384,-0.0365346,-0.0094944,-0.0014769,0.1220598,-0.0880928,-0.0057811,-0.0097713,-0.0017243,-0.0018993,0.0229232,-0.0209888,0.0222697,-0.0004942,0.0076929,-0.0014882,0.0019467,0.00298,-0.0040671,-0.0013375,-0.0010058
Arabian_Medieval:Israel_Medieval_oNAfrica:I11095,0.05805,0.141159,-0.058077,-0.111113,-0.009232,-0.043507,-0.010575,-0.009461,0.048881,-0.002369,0.022897,-0.036867,0.065857,-0.003853,0.003257,0.029833,-0.023469,0.000887,-0.004022,0.025137,0.010606,0.018177,-0.011709,0.014339,-0.010538
Arabian_Medieval:Syria_TellQarassa_Umayyad:syr005,0.060326,0.159438,-0.043746,-0.13017,-0.000615,-0.061635,-0.020681,-0.006,0.062584,0.010934,0.022247,-0.014537,0.0666,-0.00055,0.017508,0.025855,-0.032596,-0.015076,0.002011,0.029264,0.024956,-0.002844,-0.013064,-0.00241,-0.015807
Arabian_Medieval:Syria_TellQarassa_Umayyad:syr013,0.076261,0.151314,-0.066373,-0.125648,-0.000308,-0.051595,-0.016686,-0.019153,0.067697,0.003645,0.01494,-0.043311,0.071506,0.009496,0.004072,0.020154,-0.037942,0.007348,-0.000251,0.039769,0.016471,0.017311,-0.001109,0.008435,-0.013053

 

[Garaad Awal]

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She's similar to the Eritreans & Tigrayans in Arabian level

 

[giire12]

She's similar to the Eritreans & Tigrayans in Arabian level

I think Eritreans and Tigrayans have higher Arabian level than my cousin, but she has more than amahara and afar.

I have more than Eritrean but Beni Amer are very high Arabian mixed its madness.

 

[Garaad Awal]

I think Eritreans and Tigrayans have higher Arabian level than my cousin, but she has more than amahara and afar.

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I have more than Eritrean but Beni Amer are very high Arabian mixed its madness.

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Is she fully Adaraxman Sacad like you?

 

[giire12]

Is she fully Adaraxman Sacad like you?

Yes fully Adaraxman Sacad, her paternal gradmother is bicido, HJ, other than that she is fully HA.

 

[Garaad Hirabu]

I'm shocked

 

[Garaad Awal]

The most Arabian samples we are seeing so far are Isaaqs but I've seen more Isaaqs at a normal Somali range of Arabian.I guess we just have more outliers.

 

[giire12]

The most Arabian samples we are seeing so far are Isaaqs but I've seen more Isaaqs at a normal Somali range of Arabian.I guess we just have more outliers.

Thats the only explanation, likewise, i saw so many isaaqs with average Somali like ancestry, but some are somehow odd, maybe outliers, like i saw E-L29, E-M215 and E -V12, some with Arabian ancestry, i guess with time we will ge better picture.

 

[Garaad Awal]

My wife's updated Illustrative Ancient Break down, her Natufian increased from 11% to 17% which is inline with her 18% Natufian she gets regularly on Illustrative DNA

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[giire12]

My wife's updated Illustrative Ancient Break down, her Natufian increased from 11% to 17% which is inline with her 18% Natufian she gets regularly on Illustrative DNA

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Is this the recent update in September or is it a new update?

 

[Garaad Awal]

Is this the recent update in September or is it a new update?

The recent update

 

[Garaad Awal]

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[NidarNidar]

My wife's updated Illustrative Ancient Break down, her Natufian increased from 11% to 17% which is inline with her 18% Natufian she gets regularly on Illustrative DNA

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Mine completely disappeared and get East African Pastoralist 83% and 17% ssa.

while before I got this.

 

[giire12]

Maybe illustrative DNA updated so Natufian and East African Hunter- Gather is combined as one to make East African Pastoralist. Personally i like them to be distinguished to see how many ancient Natufian we have, My results show 71.2% East African Pastoralist and 6% sub saharan african, interestingly the updated version of illustrative DNA is more and more matching with my 23andme results as I have 81% East African.

 

[NidarNidar]

Maybe illustrative DNA updated so Natufian and East African Hunter- Gather is combined as one to make East African Pastoralist. Personally i like them to be distinguished to see how many ancient Natufian we have, My results show 71.2% East African Pastoralist and 6% sub saharan african, interestingly the updated version of illustrative DNA is more and more matching with my 23andme results as I have 81% East African.

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Looks like they merged it, what your 23&me results?

 

[giire12]

Looks like they merged it, what your 23&me results?

23&me result shows I am 73.8% Somali, an overall 81.6% Sub Saharan African.

 

[Garaad Awal]

23&me result shows I am 73.8% Somali, an overall 81.6% Sub Saharan African.

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Ok, your Yemeni ancestry is definitely recent perhaps from the Tihama region or Hadhramawt.That minor Bantu & South Asian ancestry is a tell-tale sign of recent Coastal Yemeni ancestry

 

[Garaad Awal]

Maybe illustrative DNA updated so Natufian and East African Hunter- Gather is combined as one to make East African Pastoralist. Personally i like them to be distinguished to see how many ancient Natufian we have, My results show 71.2% East African Pastoralist and 6% sub saharan african, interestingly the updated version of illustrative DNA is more and more matching with my 23andme results as I have 81% East African.

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They are just using one of the Early Pastoralists who are as Eurasian as the Habesha & other Cushitic Northern Horners

 

[giire12]

Ok, your Yemeni ancestry is definitely recent perhaps from the Tihama region or Hadhramawt.That minor Bantu & South Asian ancestry is a tell-tale sign of recent Coastal Yemeni ancestry

i will research on those two regions, i am familiar with Hadhramawt as am friends with many from that region. Also could the Ethiopian & Eritrean 2.4% and Sudan 2.3% be because of a recent Yemani ancestry?

They are just using one of the Early Pastoralists who are as Eurasian as the Habesha & other Cushitic Northern Horners

That means these early pastoralists must have carried huge amount of Natufian in them, most likely more than north Aficans. Also North Africans especially the north east africans favour ancient Iberomaurusians and Anatolian than Natufian. I heard Levant carry the highest Natufian percentage.

 

[giire12]

Ok, your Yemeni ancestry is definitely recent perhaps from the Tihama region or Hadhramawt.That minor Bantu & South Asian ancestry is a tell-tale sign of recent Coastal Yemeni ancestry

I dont think tihama and hadhramawt, when i researched some have significant bantu level between 20% to 40%. This would have showed in my result like 5% or more bantu (20 divide by 4= 5%). I think if i have yemani than its most likely from a group of people known as yemani al jawf, it shows in the modern population mixed mode from illustrative but i dont know whether to trust the results.

my cousin mixed mode