Gen Maxamed Nuur Galaal’s shameful rhetoric stirs controversy

[Sloane Ranger]

Walaahi I can’t emphasis enough, how important is it is to move the Capital.

HAG have risen from ashes economically and politically and militarily due to the Capital.

HAG will be irrelevant if the capital is moved.
They can hold millions of dhuuso event and they will still be irrelevant.

That's sheer stupidity. No other city has the capabilities to fulfill the needs of a capital. But one can always dream.

 

[scarecrow]

According to the latest UNFPA 2014 census:

Hawiye is 3.3 Millions.
Daarood is 3.2 Millions.
Rahanwayan 2.2 Millions.
Isaaq: 2.1 Millions.


The old-timer can spew vitriolic vomit in those lame ass conferences but he won't change the actual demographics on the ground. Darood is the biggest clan of All Somalis, Ogaden alone eclipses Hawiye in numbers.

Definitely darood is

That's sheer stupidity. No other city has the capabilities to fulfill the needs of a capital. But one can always dream.

So are you endorsing the filthy words of that ancient creature?

 

[scarecrow]

Reminder to all concerned we are in 2021, there is no point getting offended by the ramblings of a primitive old man from the 18th century.

Somalia is 100% Somali that is what matters at the end of the day, what this man said reflects badly on his own character and that of those who he represent or agree with him.

If only we had more people thinking like you! Unfortunately we don't.

 

[Sloane Ranger]

So are you endorsing the filthy words of that ancient creature?

What did I say as an endorsement ? If you can't understand basic English that's on you but their is no need to get emotional and make things up.

 

[scarecrow]

What did I say as an endorsement ? If you can't understand basic English that's on you but their is no need to get emotional and make things up.

Your silence; if he was darood i would be ashamed! This thread is about the controversial comments by a haawiye politician under the umberralla of haawiye. instead of giving your viewpoint on that. Your turning it into xaamar anuka leeh.

 

[Wir]

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Your silence; if he was darood i would be ashamed! This thread is about the controversial comments by a haawiye politician under the umberralla of haawiye. instead of giving your viewpoint on that. Your turning it into xaamar anuka leeh.

What did he say that was so wrong? That your people are a minority? He should've been more honest and say you're a minority who benefited off of Siad barre who was the first president to institutionalize tribalism

 

[Sloane Ranger]

Your silence; if he was darood i would be ashamed! This thread is about the controversial comments by a haawiye politician under the umberralla of haawiye. instead of giving your viewpoint on that. Your turning it into xaamar anuka leeh.

I have expressed my viewpoint on everything wrong with Somali politics countless times. Instead of responding to my point you like the snake you are keep diverting the issue and accusing me of things I never said. Leave your emotions with your therapist I'm not interested in your stupidity.

 

[scarecrow]

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What did he say that was so wrong? That your people are a minority? He should've been more honest and say you're a minority who benefited off of Siad barre who was the first president to institutionalize tribalism

I'm not gonna get in your silly argument of my qabil is bigger than yours! It is idiotic. Just the sheer notion that you think this is something to be debated. I will tell you this no qabil is bigger or better than the other they're all the same.

I have expressed my viewpoint on everything wrong with Somali politics countless times. Instead of responding to my point you like the snake you are keep diverting the issue and accusing me of things I never said. Leave your emotions with your therapist I'm not interested in your stupidity.

Just stop defending xamar from everyone. Its the capital city of the country everyone belongs to.

 

[Wir]

I'm not gonna get in your silly argument of my qabil is bigger than yours! It is idiotic. Just the sheer notion that you think this is something to be debated. I will tell you this no qabil is bigger or better than the other they're all the same.




Just stop defending xamar from everyone. Its the capital city of the country everyone belongs to.

Your country allocates positions based on a 4.5 tribe system so it does matter. All he is saying is maybe Darood political representation is over inflated and should be lessened based on their actual population which is low compared to the big Qabiils

 

[Sloane Ranger]

Just stop defending xamar from everyone. Its the capital city of the country everyone belongs to.

why don't you say that to the ppl asking for it to moved ?

 

[Karim]

Your country allocates positions based on a 4.5 tribe system so it does matter. All he is saying is maybe Darood political representation is over inflated and should be lessened based on their actual population which is low compared to the big Qabiils

According to the latest 2014 UNFPA population data; your little clan is 2M. In what world is your little clan bigger than Darood?!

 

[reer]

why don't you say that to the ppl asking for it to moved ?

capital should be moved to barawe and flood the city with .5ers those people are right

 

[scarecrow]

Your country allocates positions based on a 4.5 tribe system so it does matter. All he is saying is maybe Darood political representation is over inflated and should be lessened based on their actual population which is low compared to the big Qabiils

why don't you say that to the ppl asking for it to moved ?

Maybe they won't say that if people dont keep excluding them out of the city they live in their whole lives.

 

[Sloane Ranger]

capital should be moved to barawe and flood the city with .5ers those people are right

What about everyone else ?

 

[Wir]

According to the latest 2014 UNFPA population data; your little clan is 2M. In what world is your little clan bigger than Darood?!

Why did you run away from the population census thread

The last government recorded census 1975-1980 showed Puntland as a mere 4% of the former Somali republic. That percentage was consistent in the 1980s, 1970s 1950s, 1930s. The cooked numbers that Puntland gives to NGOS and the UN in hopes that they write you a bigger welfare check is irrelevant. The discrepancy of the 2005 and 2014 pops are discussed in the quote below which is in the another thread. Just like printing fake monies to inflate your economy didnt work, so wont this. Everything is coming full surface and as Somalia normalizes you have the most to lose

These Census cannot be more far from the truth. In those days my Grandfather lived in Jowhar where he is still buried today and my Grandmother in Ceelbuur. His brother lived in Mogadishu and his other brother in Badioa. Darood specially Majeerteen lived across the land from Bari to the deep South. Using these Census to determine clan size is as stupid as it gets. I will leave there!

These new estimates are fake. Puntland is a region known not only for faking banknotes, but also faking official reports, one of their ministers was caught copying a Somaliland report word for word and presenting it as a Puntland report.

The discrepancy in these new estimates is glaring. Just as an example, in 2005, Puntland region was reported as follows:
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Bari (367,638)+ Nugaal (145,341) = 512,979 this is equivalent to 6.83% of the total population of the former Somali Republic.

In the 2014 report, the same area, Puntland region was reported as follows:
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Bari (719,512) + Nugaal (392,698) = 1,112,210 or 9.02% of the population.

A % change of this magnitude is a statistical impossibility.

The percentage share of population rarely changes this dramatically intra-region. Besides, the desert region of Puntland went through very tough times between 2005 and 2014, its share of population has no way of increasing by such a huge margin naturally.

To illustrate this point, you can look at Kenyan census data:

In 2009, NFD made up 5.9% of the total Kenyan population.
In 2019, NFD made up 5.23% of the total Kenyan population.

The percentage of Kenyan population belonging to the NFD did not change all that much despite Somali Kenyans having the highest fertility rate there. So although general population figures may increase, the % share of population never changes this dramatically unless a calamity had befallen other regions.

This is why sticking to official census figures is key instead of relying on bogus NGO/UN figures, especially pertinent given Puntland region's track record.

 

[Sloane Ranger]

Maybe they won't say that if people dont keep excluding them out of the city they live in their whole lives.

So now a bunch of diaspora kids are now complaining about not being accepted in a city they don't live in ? Is that really what is going on ? I wonder what other BS you will come up with next,

 

[TabK]

All that land and you think darood is minority. You know there is a somali proverb " gaalka diil laakin xaqiisa sii' hate darood all you want but calling a majority qabil a minority is just the most stupidest thing. It says more about you then it does darood. Inferiority complex to the max

Are you stupid enough to equate landmass, majority of which is a desert, with population?

Majority of the landmass occupied by Daroods inside the boundaries of the former Somali Republic is a barren desert known as Puntland region. This area has consistently produced the smallest population figures in the country.

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

So now a bunch of diaspora kids are now complaining about not being accepted in a city they don't live in ? Is that really what is going on ? I wonder what other BS you will come up with .

Xamar Unukaa leh = Black lives matter
Xamar Somali oo dhan baa leh = All lives matter


which one do you subscribe to walaalo ?

 

[Sloane Ranger]

Xamar Unukaa leh = Black lives matter
Xamar Somali oo dhan baa leh = All lives matter


which one do you subscribe to walaalo ?

I'm so confused right now . I have no idea what the point of this discussion is supposed to be.

 

[scarecrow]

Are you stupid enough to equate landmass, majority of which is a desert, with population?

Majority of the landmass occupied by Daroods inside the boundaries of the former Somali Republic is a barren desert known as Puntland region. This area has consistently produced the smallest population figures in the country.

Mate 80% of somalia is now desert. Anything from somaliland and all the way to hiiraan is desert if your theory is correct most of the country is uninhabitable. Perhaps the haawiyes who occupy most of central somalia to hirran are also non existent since its just barren.

Besides there's more rainfall in PL then the place you consider fertile.