I have turned alot of kids over the years, I'm doing tawbah
Nah thats not good enough. You have to redirect them from the fitna if you want to clear your conscious.
Gen Maxamed Nuur Galaal’s shameful rhetoric stirs controversy
- Thread starter scarecrow
- Start date
- Status
Nah thats not good enough. You have to redirect them from the fitna if you want to clear your conscious.
Darood an majerteen ehen majiro, 
Dhulbahante iyo marehan wa oromo filidikano
Dhulbahante iyo marehan wa oromo filidikano
I’ll never be a tribalist it’s a public forum I don’t mean any of what I sayAdeer, I'm retired. Dont turn these kids into tribalist. Lol poor @zak1up_1 has one foot in one foot out. Only a matter of time.
It's good that you admit the discrepancies in the UN population of 2005 and 2014. Now let's stick to the last official govt census going forward.
Nugaal and Sool were 1 connected state when the census was done. Your claim to mudug isnt substantiated in the constitution so that leaves you with Bari and Part of Nugaal. But for sake of discussion let's entertain this to understand demographics for regions and how empty your land really is. Let's look at the settlement maps of mudug where puntland claims based on clan vs the rest of mudug where Galmudugians settle.
Puntland settlement in Mudug
Galdogob, Mudug, Puntland
7 villages. Remember this trend of Large land with no representation in terms of settlements
Jaribaan Mudug, Puntland. Roughly 30 villages
North Galcakyo, Mudug, Puntland. Another 20-30 villages
In comparison
Hoobyo, Mudug, Galmudug. I cant count all the settlements but I stopped at 75. It outnumbers all puntland villages in North Galkacyo district, Jariban and Goldogob combined
South Galkacyo, Galmudug. The trend continues where Puntland has a dispersed sparsely populated land while Galmudug sections are well represented in settlements
I won't even include Xarardheer, Galmudug to this because I think anyone reading can visually see.
Interestingly enough This trend continues for areas in Somaliland claimed by Puntland based on clan affiliation. Places like Lasqoray district in sanaag and eastern sool have a very sparse population and low settlement count over a large land
Last edited:
Is this idiot bringing up discrepancies in the report ... to argue that it is authentic?
Probably single digit IQ.
He really shot himself in the foot with that oneIs this idiot bringing up discrepancies in the report ... to argue that it is authentic?
Probably single digit IQ.
Most of those villages/towns on the galmudug side don’t even show up on google maps..North Galcakyo, Mudug, Puntland. Another 20-30 villages
View attachment 163964
In comparison
South Galkacyo, Galmudug. The trend continues where Puntland has a dispersed sparsely populated land while Galmudug sections are well represented in settlements
View attachment 163965
I won't even include Xarardheer, Galmudug to this because I think anyone reading can visually see.
Interestingly enough This trend continues for areas in Somaliland claimed by Puntland based on clan affiliation. Places like Lasqoray district in sanaag and eastern sool have a very sparse population and low settlement count over a large land
How is the galmudug side of galkayo more populated when the 2 largest towns in galkayo district after galkayo are in the PL side (Xarfo/Buuryaqab and Bacaadweyn)?
Last edited:
There are countless settlements that arent labeled on google but can be found unlabeled when you zoom in on Google Earth
I'm sure your largest metropolitan in mudug buryoqab, which is 0.75 Square km, is not of much significance
Hawadle, Degodia, Ajuuran aren't Hawiye
Like 70% of the settlements/towns labeled on your map don’t even exist or sometimes have 2-3 houses, you can see it for yourself at https://www.mindat.org/
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
Log in or register now.
Nah bacaadweyn, galdogob, bursalaax etc. are larger. xarfo/buuryaqab is larger than hobyo tho
Like 70% of the settlements/towns labeled on your map don’t even exist or sometimes have 2-3 houses, you can see it for yourself at https://www.mindat.org/
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Nah bacaadweyn, galdogob, bursalaax etc. are larger. xarfo/buuryaqab is larger than hobyo tho
Mate I measured the town you said was one of your largest and its 0.75 square km. There are countless towns without Label and I can see them now on Google earth.
Its clear that the scarcity of settlements is in line with the govt population censuses of 1975-1980, and censuses from 1950s and 1930s. These are not major areas of urban population and even have a low rural settlement distribution. It makes sense since Somalis are pastoral and these areas are the least favourable lands for a pastoralist. You can almost See the land borders puntland claims through clan affiliation by looking at the areas with the least amount of rainfall. Historically an alleged large population who are primarily pastoralists would not tolerate living off of livestock in such harsh unfavorable conditions unless there was no other choice
Now you're running away from your initial pivot of the argument when I pointed out the sheer stupidity of your preposterous claims to discredit a highly respected UN data.It's good that you admit the discrepancies in the UN population of 2005 and 2014. Now let's stick to the last official govt census going forward.
Nugaal and Sool were 1 connected state when the census was done. Your claim to mudug isnt substantiated in the constitution so that leaves you with Bari and Part of Nugaal. But for sake of discussion let's entertain this to understand demographics for regions and how empty your land really is. Let's look at the settlement maps of mudug where puntland claims based on clan vs the rest of mudug where Galmudugians settle.
Puntland settlement in Mudug
Galdogob, Mudug, Puntland
7 villages. Remember this trend of Large land with no representation in terms of settlements
View attachment 163958
Jaribaan Mudug, Puntland. Roughly 30 villages
View attachment 163960
North Galcakyo, Mudug, Puntland. Another 20-30 villages
View attachment 163964
In comparison
Hoobyo, Mudug, Galmudug. I cant count all the settlements but I stopped at 75. It outnumbers all puntland villages in North Galkacyo district, Jariban and Goldogob combined
View attachment 163962
South Galkacyo, Galmudug. The trend continues where Puntland has a dispersed sparsely populated land while Galmudug sections are well represented in settlements
View attachment 163965
I won't even include Xarardheer, Galmudug to this because I think anyone reading can visually see.
Interestingly enough This trend continues for areas in Somaliland claimed by Puntland based on clan affiliation. Places like Lasqoray district in sanaag and eastern sool have a very sparse population and low settlement count over a large land
You resorted to posting nonsensical maps of nonexistent settlements. For instance the map you posted had Garacad, Bacaadweyn and Xarfo as villages but they're good sizeable towns with plenty of development and urbanisation going on... Garacad alone can eclipse all those 'settlements' in that Ocha map if they do exist. I tried to find some of them on Google Maps and they are not there.
No point in deflecting from the real pivot of the discussion mate; Harti and Isaaq are equal in size according to the 2014 UNFPA report and 2005 UNDP report. That must hurt
Do whatever you want at the end of the day your entire tribe is equal to 1 Kablalax sub clan or even smaller if we count our populations in Jubaland
Laangaab laangaab dhalay
Now you're running away from your initial pivot of the argument when I pointed out the sheer stupidity of your preposterous claims to discredit a highly respected UN data.
You resorted to posting nonsensical maps of nonexistent settlements. For instance the map you posted had Garacad, Bacaadweyn and Xarfo as villages but they're good sizeable towns with plenty of development and urbanisation going on... Garacad alone can eclipse all those 'settlements' in that Ocha map if they do exist. I tried to find some of them on Google Maps and they are not there.
No point in deflecting from the real pivot of the discussion mate; Harti and Isaaq are equal in size according to the 2014 UNFPA report and 2005 UNDP report. That must hurt
Do whatever you want at the end of the day your entire tribe is equal to 1 Kablalax sub clan or even smaller if we count our populations in Jubaland
Laangaab laangaab dhalay
You pointed out the clear discrepancies in the UN reports yourself. I thought you would've saved face and retired from this thread as you did the other. The Last official census in the Somali Republic was 1980, 1975 and they both are consistent with 1950s and 1930 censuses. Delusions grandeur wont help you
This delusion for example. You claimed Garacad, as some metropolitan of Mudug, Puntland. An epicenter of urbanization.
0.3 Square Km. I made sure to include Canabs tea shop
The Awdal region was part of W/Galbeed in 1975 thus boasting your numbers massively about 37%. Still not sure why you keep bringing up 50 yr old and 100 year reports when the modern estimations conducted by the UN proves your laangaabnimo kkkkkkkkk
Both of reports suggest that The Isaaq clan is equal in size with Harti; and even smaller if we add Harti populations in Jubaland. Laangaab ku dhalay was
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
Log in or register now.
Last edited:
Now you're running away from your initial pivot of the argument when I pointed out the sheer stupidity of your preposterous claims to discredit a highly respected UN data.
You resorted to posting nonsensical maps of nonexistent settlements. For instance the map you posted had Garacad, Bacaadweyn and Xarfo as villages but they're good sizeable towns with plenty of development and urbanisation going on... Garacad alone can eclipse all those 'settlements' in that Ocha map if they do exist. I tried to find some of them on Google Maps and they are not there.
No point in deflecting from the real pivot of the discussion mate; Harti and Isaaq are equal in size according to the 2014 UNFPA report and 2005 UNDP report. That must hurt
Do whatever you want at the end of the day your entire tribe is equal to 1 Kablalax sub clan or even smaller if we count our populations in Jubaland
Laangaab laangaab dhalay
I'm not sure why my response to you was removed???Anyway I'll keep it short.
You showed the inconsistency in the UN reports of 2005 and 2014 yourself, why you're still referencing them is beyond me. The last census done by the government was 1980, and it was consistent with 1975, 1950s, and 1930s. All of which proved that puntland was a non factor in population
Your delusions of grandeur are further disproved by settlement maps which show you lack not only in an urban population in the form of large urban cities (Hargeisa, Burco, Mogadishu), but also an insignificant rural population as well. The Census of 1975 and 1980 is the last official source of population in the former republic.
Exhibit A of your delusional beliefs
The village you're championing as a metropolitan and epicenter of urbanization that eclipses others, Garacad, is 0.3 square km. I've made sure to include Canabs tea shop incase someone takes a trip to Garacad
Last edited:
I'm not sure why my response to you was removed???Anyway I'll keep it short.
You showed the inconsistency in the UN reports of 2005 and 2014 yourself, why you're still referencing them is beyond me. The last census done by the government was 1980, and it was consistent with 1975, 1950s, and 1930s. All of which proved that puntland was a non factor in population
Your delusions of grandeur are further disproved by settlement maps which show you lack not only in an urban population in the form of cities, but a rural population as well. The Census of 1975 and 1980 is the last official source of population in the former republic
Exhibit A of your delusional beliefs
The village you're championing as a metropolitan and epicenter of urbanization that eclipses others, Garacad, is 0.3 square km. I've made sure to include Canabs tea shop incase someone takes a trip to Garacad
Why don't you stick to your claims thick and thin and post the links of those Hobyo 'settlements' that you posted earlier?!!
Surely we can find them on Google maps if they exist.
Why don't you find us the massive town of "scinder" in upper part of the map.
- Status
Trending
-
Gaalo Infiltrationists using camel milk to spread Christian Evangelism into the Somali community
- Started by Idilinaa
- Replies: 83
-
Johnny Somali and his Buddies Get Pulverized by Korean Gangsters- Started by Dooyo
- Replies: 58
