H.R.10402 - To recognize Somaliland of the Federal Republic of Somalia as a separate, independent country.

Secession from Somalia is Illegal. Somaliland has no choice but to go talk to HSM and obey all his demands and rejoin Somalia and beg for forgiveness. After that Somaliland can continue to exist as a Federal Member State of Somalia.

HSM and Somalia holds all the cards and influence here while Somaliland has zero cards and zero influence because Somaliland is apart of Somalia and not a separate country and Secession is illegal

I Dont Think So No Way GIF
 
Secession from Somalia is Illegal. Somaliland has no choice but to go talk to HSM and obey all his demands and rejoin Somalia and beg for forgiveness. After that Somaliland can continue to exist as a Federal Member State of Somalia.

HSM and Somalia holds all the cards and influence here while Somaliland has zero cards and zero influence because Somaliland is apart of Somalia and not a separate country and Secession is illegal
It would be «rotten» from inside to force so many people. Last time it fell apart. Still it did not manage to get people of «Italian» Somalia onboard this new project. The leadership of Mogadishu is sabotaging the progress for others growing more hate and not reconciliation.
 
It would be «rotten» from inside to force so many people. Last time it fell apart. Still it did not manage to get people of «Italian» Somalia onboard this new project. The leadership of Mogadishu is sabotaging the progress for others growing more hate and not reconciliation.
Ninja puhlease! We're not even 30mil and majority same ethnic group. Then you have 130mil prison next door of how many forced ethnic groups, 10-12?

Until you idiots understand its enough being a somali and say fk qabiil, you'll continue fighting other qabiils. Then fighting your clan, and sub clan, then sub sub clan. Its a curse on an ignorant people. We celebrate the destruction, femine and people of other qabiils fleeing wars as if they were gaalo of the highest order. Doomed in this world and the here after.
 

Karim

I could agree with you but then we’d both be wrong
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Why do people get divorced after entering a legally binding union with another person under the watch of a witness? Your premise is ridiculous on the face of it because you act like nobody can ever change their mind.

I also find it kinda ironic that you as a PLer are against this so vehemently given that PL constitution also includes a similar ‘nuclear option’. PL cut all ties with the FGS back in March, effectively making it no different to SL in terms of position. Are you also similarly against PL cutting these ties to the federal government and behaving, in the words of Deni, as a ‘sovereign nation(dowlad madax banaan)’? Please reconcile these glaring differences for us.
You'd compare the divorce between husband and his wife to a secession from a recognized country whom you willingly joined without compulsion or coercion?! Are you insane?! If secession would've been that easy the world would've thousands of countries. Get real and get your head straight.

Also PL cutting ties with the FGS doesn't mean "secession". You need a lengthy lecture on politics and the proper way to compare things as you keep comparing entirely unrelated different events.
 
Inshallah once recognized the road linking Hargeisa and Burco will be named "Wadada Donald Trump" like Kosovo's Bill Clinton Boulevard.

قولوا أمين (((ٱمين )))
 
Inshallah once recognized the road linking Hargeisa and Burco will be named "Wadada Donald Trump" like Kosovo's Bill Clinton Boulevard.

قولوا أمين (((ٱمين )))
lol lets not go that far. But he's welcome to open a trump hotel, somali's love hotels.
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Libaax-Joore

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What do they gain recognizing Somaliland us independent country 😂 Somalia is already usa 🇺🇸 allied country✊🏽
 

Somali Saayid

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Do you honestly think the foreign affairs committee can direct the president on what countries he/she should recognize? :pachah1:
@Somali Saayid The US embassy was moved to Jerusalem by executive order from Trump. No congressional authority required and no involvement from them at all. That’s all it takes. They probably didn’t teach that in your high school civics class this summer.
Ofc the President has final say on foreign policy however the FA committee can push forward legislation to the president to sign regarding foreign policy, they have wide reaching powers to help shape foreign policy ofc I wouldn't expect an illiterate like you to know that.
The Full Committee will be responsible for oversight and legislation relating to:

foreign assistance (including development assistance, Millennium Challenge Corporation, the Millennium Challenge Account, HIV/AIDS in foreign countries, security assistance, and Public Law 480 programs abroad);
the Peace Corps;
national security developments affecting foreign policy;
strategic planning and agreements;
war powers, treaties, executive agreements, and the deployment and use of United States Armed Forces;
peacekeeping, peace enforcement, and enforcement of United Nations or other international sanctions;
arms control and disarmament issues;
the United States Agency for International Development;
activities and policies of the State, Commerce and Defense Departments and other agencies related to the Arms Export Control Act, and the Foreign Assistance Act including export and licensing policy for munitions items and technology and dual-use equipment and technology;
international law;
promotion of democracy;
international law enforcement issues, including narcotics control programs and activities;
Broadcasting Board of Governors;
embassy security;
international broadcasting;
public diplomacy, including international communication, information policy, international education, and cultural programs;
and all other matters not specifically assigned to a subcommittee.
The Committee will have jurisdiction over legislation with respect to the administration of the Export Administration Act, including the export and licensing of dual-use equipment and technology and other matters related to international economic policy and trade not otherwise assigned to a subcommittee and with respect to the United Nations, its affiliated agencies and other international organizations, including assessed and voluntary contributions to such organizations. The Committee may conduct oversight with respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the Committee as defined in the Rules of the House of Representatives.
 

Libaax-Joore

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Ofc the President has final say on foreign policy however the FA committee can push forward legislation to the president to sign regarding foreign policy, they have wide reaching powers to help shape foreign policy ofc I wouldn't expect an illiterate like you to know that.
The Full Committee will be responsible for oversight and legislation relating to:

foreign assistance (including development assistance, Millennium Challenge Corporation, the Millennium Challenge Account, HIV/AIDS in foreign countries, security assistance, and Public Law 480 programs abroad);
the Peace Corps;
national security developments affecting foreign policy;
strategic planning and agreements;
war powers, treaties, executive agreements, and the deployment and use of United States Armed Forces;
peacekeeping, peace enforcement, and enforcement of United Nations or other international sanctions;
arms control and disarmament issues;
the United States Agency for International Development;
activities and policies of the State, Commerce and Defense Departments and other agencies related to the Arms Export Control Act, and the Foreign Assistance Act including export and licensing policy for munitions items and technology and dual-use equipment and technology;
international law;
promotion of democracy;
international law enforcement issues, including narcotics control programs and activities;
Broadcasting Board of Governors;
embassy security;
international broadcasting;
public diplomacy, including international communication, information policy, international education, and cultural programs;
and all other matters not specifically assigned to a subcommittee.
The Committee will have jurisdiction over legislation with respect to the administration of the Export Administration Act, including the export and licensing of dual-use equipment and technology and other matters related to international economic policy and trade not otherwise assigned to a subcommittee and with respect to the United Nations, its affiliated agencies and other international organizations, including assessed and voluntary contributions to such organizations. The Committee may conduct oversight with respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the Committee as defined in the Rules of the House of Representatives.
Somaliland No oil No other natural resources for usa 🇺🇸 to benefit from 😂 it’s empty barren land with low iq geel jire 🐪
 
What do they gain recognizing Somaliland us independent country 😂 Somalia is already usa 🇺🇸 allied country✊🏽
Beenale, allied country. You're a test site and charity case for them. Trump and trump fans hate somalia, and you're on here talking about ally. Clown, you're not even like saudi who the people hate but the government love to take money from and sell weapons to for oil.


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Even Kenya only got upgraded this year. Only Kenya/Egypt/Tunisa/moroco on the continent.
 
Trump and trump fans hate somalia,
As opposed to Somaliland? Trump and his supporters all think Somalis are the same and wouldn't care to differentiate contrary to what some online like to believe. I wouldn't even be surprised if Trump didn't know what Somaliland was.
 
As opposed to Somaliland? Trump and his supporters all think Somalis are the same and wouldn't care to differentiate contrary to what some online like to believe. I wouldn't even be surprised if Trump didn't know what Somaliland was.
Did I make such a claim?
If you're asking me, then no. We are all somalis. Just don't want to share a country with you. Nothing to do with somalinimo. We simply want to govern ourselves, from hargeisa. I personally dont give a shit about any deegan outside of isaaq land. Not even Borama, and I got love for Dir.

Even a country with only Isaaq land, maybe small for Africa but still big globally and compared to European nations. People under estimate the sheer size of Africa and its nations. To truly build, you need a work force or focus on centralizing and using the rest for farming/mining.
 
Did I make such a claim?
If you're asking me, then no. We are all somalis. Just don't want to share a country with you. Nothing to do with somalinimo. We simply want to govern ourselves, from hargeisa. I personally dont give a shit about any deegan outside of isaaq land. Not even Borama, and I got love for Dir.

Even a country with only Isaaq land, maybe small for Africa but still big globally and compared to European nations. People under estimate the sheer size of Africa and its nations. To truly build, you need a work force or focus on centralizing and using the rest for farming/mining.
Qabil based nations never work. Even your hypothetical Isaaq nation will be prone to infighting because that is how qabil functions.
 
You'd compare the divorce between husband and his wife to a secession from a recognized country whom you willingly joined without compulsion or coercion?! Are you insane?! If secession would've been that easy the world would've thousands of countries. Get real and get your head straight.

Also PL cutting ties with the FGS doesn't mean "secession". You need a lengthy lecture on politics and the proper way to compare things as you keep comparing entirely unrelated different events.

Somaliland independence isn't easy. It has taken more than 30 years and might take a little longer even. It required a culimination of factors, both economic and security imperatives to finally get some traction where it is being discussed seriously in the places that can make it happen.

The real question should be why Somalia? The last place a country was recognized like this was in Yugoslavia which was disintegrating. Is Somalia disintegrated in all but name? Jubbaland and PL only nominally allied with the FGS, only accepting FGS money but nothing else.

If your state hasn't operated in Somaliland for more than 30 years, and has no real prospect of operating there again. Then the US can step in and recognize Somaliland to further their own interests. It's a dog eat dog world and you just played yourself.

Dj Khaled Congratulations GIF


If this goes through we can only thank the federalists of Somalia for making it possible, for resisting so powerfully their return of their state and by over estimating the value of their small foothold in eastern Somaliland.

Barack Obama Thank You GIF by The Democrats
 
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You'd compare the divorce between husband and his wife to a secession from a recognized country whom you willingly joined without compulsion or coercion?! Are you insane?! If secession would've been that easy the world would've thousands of countries. Get real and get your head straight.

Also PL cutting ties with the FGS doesn't mean "secession". You need a lengthy lecture on politics and the proper way to compare things as you keep comparing entirely unrelated different events.
They are basically the exact same thing but you are just being a hypocrite and running from the facts.
 

Somali Saayid

Rer Siyaad Xuseen
VIP
Somaliland independence isn't easy. It has taken more than 30 years and might take a little longer even. It required a culimination of factors, both economic and security imperatives to finally get some traction where it is being discussed seriously in the places that can make it happen.

The real question should be why Somalia? The last place a country was recognized like this was in Yugoslavia which was disintegrating. Is Somalia disintegrated in all but name? Jubbaland and PL only nominally allied with the FGS, only accepting FGS money but nothing else.

If your state hasn't operated in Somaliland for more than 30 years, and has no real prospect of operating there again. Then the US can step in and recognize Somaliland to further their own interests. It's a dog eat dog world and you just played yourself.

Dj Khaled Congratulations GIF


If this goes through we can only thank the federalists of Somalia for making it possible, for resisting so powerfully their return of their state and by over estimating the value of their small foothold in eastern Somaliland.

Barack Obama Thank You GIF by The Democrats
I can't wait to see your reaction when this goes to the gutter. It's gonna be back to the drawing boars again for ictiraaf.
 
Somaliland should be recognized already. They are the only peaceful and democratic country in all of the horn. Let these peaceful people free
 
Ofc the President has final say on foreign policy however the FA committee can push forward legislation to the president to sign regarding foreign policy, they have wide reaching powers to help shape foreign policy ofc I wouldn't expect an illiterate like you to know that.
The Full Committee will be responsible for oversight and legislation relating to:

foreign assistance (including development assistance, Millennium Challenge Corporation, the Millennium Challenge Account, HIV/AIDS in foreign countries, security assistance, and Public Law 480 programs abroad);
the Peace Corps;
national security developments affecting foreign policy;
strategic planning and agreements;
war powers, treaties, executive agreements, and the deployment and use of United States Armed Forces;
peacekeeping, peace enforcement, and enforcement of United Nations or other international sanctions;
arms control and disarmament issues;
the United States Agency for International Development;
activities and policies of the State, Commerce and Defense Departments and other agencies related to the Arms Export Control Act, and the Foreign Assistance Act including export and licensing policy for munitions items and technology and dual-use equipment and technology;
international law;
promotion of democracy;
international law enforcement issues, including narcotics control programs and activities;
Broadcasting Board of Governors;
embassy security;
international broadcasting;
public diplomacy, including international communication, information policy, international education, and cultural programs;
and all other matters not specifically assigned to a subcommittee.
The Committee will have jurisdiction over legislation with respect to the administration of the Export Administration Act, including the export and licensing of dual-use equipment and technology and other matters related to international economic policy and trade not otherwise assigned to a subcommittee and with respect to the United Nations, its affiliated agencies and other international organizations, including assessed and voluntary contributions to such organizations. The Committee may conduct oversight with respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the Committee as defined in the Rules of the House of Representatives.
Point being they can’t recognize anyone on their own right? Only the president can which is what I said. Stop writing novels on here kiddo.
 

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