"How do I learn more about Somali History"

Khaem

Früher of the Djibouti Ugaasate 🇩🇯
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No we don't need one like Hagia Sofia, There's no point spending extraordinary amount of money on unnecessary architecture, masjids should be built in a simple manner, they're for worshipping Allah and seeking knowledge not for decoration or tourism ,otherwise it becomes israaf. All that money could instead be used on feeding the poor or building or enhancing other masajid
I do not disagree with this. I'm fantasising about the distant future when Somalia is a country set straight. But there's no harm in building a single extraordinary masjid.
 

Khaem

Früher of the Djibouti Ugaasate 🇩🇯
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You showed a town in ruins, prove that ciise and samaroon both lived in that town when it existed
Are you tapped bro? This is from Abasa awdal. This is clearly Dir Somali. Sub clan is either Ciise or Samaroon. I'm literally an Ciise from right across the border I should know my area broski. What evidence do you need? Literally search up the demographics of awdal region.
 
I'll definitely do so sxb

Somali Penisula was huge so ig you can find many different types. The bleached coral cities of the Benadir are most beautiful.

Somalis also built with stone, even small settlements in the middle of Galbeed use stone. This is actually a blessing to us since unlike other Africans who but using mud bricks and such which deteriorated into nothing, we Somalis can dig these stone structures back up. This is why I say when Somalia stabilise we must invest a ton into archeology, even if it must be funded by a group of interested Somalis rather than government.
Yeah that would be an Amazing idea, I'm wondering what are the other benefits to using other materials to build, other than stone or mud bricks.
 

Khaem

Früher of the Djibouti Ugaasate 🇩🇯
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Yeah that would be an Amazing idea, I'm wondering what are the other benefits to using other materials to build, other than stone or mud bricks.
I'm not sure about the benefits. Humans built structures with whatever that had. The sahelian of wesr Africa used mud bricks because they were sturdy for the most part, cheap, and suited the environment as the mud acted as natural temperature regulation.

But of all structures left behind by Humans, only stone survived the longest.
 

Khaem

Früher of the Djibouti Ugaasate 🇩🇯
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Idk were this assumption that harla were a purely Ethiopian highland group came from. They were found all the way to woqooyi galbeed. Half of Isaaq have a harla reer abti
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Harla’s built it. Samaroon arrived in the area sometime between the 1500 & 1600’s.

“The existence of medieval towns and villages in Somaliland is well known since Alexander T. Curle published his seminal work “Medieval towns of Somaliland” in 1937, where he described his work on a number of sites in four different regions of Somaliland but especially in the region around the town of Borama. This area was and still is the best suited for cultivation and irrigation in Somaliland, allowing the establishment and growth of permanent settlements in the area. Further research in Somaliland has however nuanced this regional predominance: with the years, many more sites have been found in the Sheikh and Burao areas and even in far more eastern regions as Sanaag, where the development of urban structures should have been really challenging in the medieval period. Research has also showed a far more complex world than the originally described by Curle, where size was the main differential criteria to organize the sites. After the last five years’ research by the Incipit team, we know that some of these settlements there were in fact caravan stations, fortresses, religious centres or nomadic meeting points. This variety adds layers of complexity to the history of the region, which are just beginning to be explored but which will enrich substantially our understanding of the religious, economical, social and historical bases of the period. To the moment, around 40 sites have been identified, although in many cases the information about them is really scarce, often reduced to the name of the site.

Regardless of their function or size, all the medieval sites in Somaliland show an astonishing uniformity which points to a shared identity. All of them have an identical constructive system, the only differences being the size of houses, the type of stones used and the care given to its construction.

Full article:


Another excerpt from an in-depth archeological and material study of the sites:

“Despite the differences in size, the three sites presented in this paper show a remarkable similarity that speaks strongly of a shared identity. This shared materiality is easily perceived in basic aspects of daily life, such as the local pottery found throughout the sites, or the construction techniques of the buildings, but it can also be appreciated in more complex elements such as the design of the mosques, which follows very specific architectural criteria. Even the emplacement of the settlements, recurrently located near a wadi but slightly set back and protected by ravines, speak of well-established practices of territory occupation and use. The replication of all these almost identical features all along the Ogo Mountains and as far as central Somaliland (Torres 2020) supports the idea of a common identity among the inhabitants of this region during at least the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries, the period traditionally identified with the so-called Sultanate of Barr Saʿd al-Dīn”.

Kola’s Kingdom: The Territory of Abasa (Western Somaliland) during the Medieval Period​



If Somalis did not build these settlements wallahi we must come from the sky.
 
In the 16th century, the complex balance established in previous centuries suffered a series of major setbacks due to the disturbance of the maritime trade routes by the Portuguese, the defeat of the Sultanate of Adal against the Christian kingdom of Abyssinia, and the Oromo expansion from the south. The network of permanent settlements was almost completely dismantled and state structures disappeared in the region until the 20th century, with most of the population embracing the nomadic life that has become the traditional Somali lifestyle into the 21st century.


Similar ruins in Nugaal (I think the research is in its infancy in this region).

Ruined towns in Nugaal: a forgotten medieval civilisation in interior Somalia
 

attash

Amaan Duule
“The existence of medieval towns and villages in Somaliland is well known since Alexander T. Curle published his seminal work “Medieval towns of Somaliland” in 1937, where he described his work on a number of sites in four different regions of Somaliland but especially in the region around the town of Borama. This area was and still is the best suited for cultivation and irrigation in Somaliland, allowing the establishment and growth of permanent settlements in the area. Further research in Somaliland has however nuanced this regional predominance: with the years, many more sites have been found in the Sheikh and Burao areas and even in far more eastern regions as Sanaag, where the development of urban structures should have been really challenging in the medieval period. Research has also showed a far more complex world than the originally described by Curle, where size was the main differential criteria to organize the sites. After the last five years’ research by the Incipit team, we know that some of these settlements there were in fact caravan stations, fortresses, religious centres or nomadic meeting points. This variety adds layers of complexity to the history of the region, which are just beginning to be explored but which will enrich substantially our understanding of the religious, economical, social and historical bases of the period. To the moment, around 40 sites have been identified, although in many cases the information about them is really scarce, often reduced to the name of the site.

Regardless of their function or size, all the medieval sites in Somaliland show an astonishing uniformity which points to a shared identity. All of them have an identical constructive system, the only differences being the size of houses, the type of stones used and the care given to its construction.

Full article:


Another excerpt from an in-depth archeological and material study of the sites:

“Despite the differences in size, the three sites presented in this paper show a remarkable similarity that speaks strongly of a shared identity. This shared materiality is easily perceived in basic aspects of daily life, such as the local pottery found throughout the sites, or the construction techniques of the buildings, but it can also be appreciated in more complex elements such as the design of the mosques, which follows very specific architectural criteria. Even the emplacement of the settlements, recurrently located near a wadi but slightly set back and protected by ravines, speak of well-established practices of territory occupation and use. The replication of all these almost identical features all along the Ogo Mountains and as far as central Somaliland (Torres 2020) supports the idea of a common identity among the inhabitants of this region during at least the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries, the period traditionally identified with the so-called Sultanate of Barr Saʿd al-Dīn”.

Kola’s Kingdom: The Territory of Abasa (Western Somaliland) during the Medieval Period​



If Somalis did not build these settlements wallahi we must come from the sky.
According to some niggas on this site Somalis didn't build anything in the south, Somalis didn't build anything in the north, and Somalis didn't build anything in galbeed. Every single stone settlement in Somaliweyn was built by ajaanib somehow. At some point the Somalis came down from the heavens and took control of all these towns while the ajaanib who built them sunk down into the earth.:mjlol:
 
There should be a sticky that has information about Somali history. It should have links to primers, introductory books and authors that one can read to get a better understanding of our history to prevent misunderstandings and false information from spreading.
 

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