So it's nothing to do with reer samaale. Which isn't surprising. Not a single tuulo in reer samaale lands was built by stone
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You still haven't proven it, I'm talking about a specific town not the whole region, simply prove that Reer Samaale's built that town when it existed, can't be that hard .
Do I have a census report on some tiny town in awdal region? It's dir somali, Samaroon in this case. It's literally the only people who live in the region Walahi you're teaching. Just leave the culture and history section.
The Jibriil Yoonis have lived there for centuries, and most of these towns are in ruins due to a decline in trade, I'll be near there visiting family in 2025 so will make sure to grab pictures.
What evidence do you have? I have heard other sources state that the Gurgura built it, until we do more archaeological digs and DNA analysis we're just guessing.
What you're suggesting is that the Dir, Isaaq and various other Somali clans just took over all Harla's land within a century.
He’s engaging in bad faith arguments. Why must we do research for him and provide “proofs” for him in an area which he has no idea about and has already has formed a biased opinion about? No amount proof will convince him because of his Arab trolling supremacist tendencies.What evidence do you have? I have heard other sources state that the Gurgura built it, until we do more archaeological digs and DNA analysis we're just guessing.
What you're suggesting is that the Dir, Isaaq and various other Somali clans just took over all Harla's land within a century.
Nope I didn't even suggest that , I want sources to indicate that reer Samaale's resided in the town at one point of it's existenceWhat evidence do you have? I have heard other sources state that the Gurgura built it, until we do more archaeological digs and DNA analysis we're just guessing.
What you're suggesting is that the Dir, Isaaq and various other Somali clans just took over all Harla's land within a century.
Ain't that hard to admit that there's no proof available, just admit it and keep it stepping.
Look on the bright side atleast there's hundreds of mundul tuulos to unuka leh without doubting
Your first claim was that there was no houses built of stone made by “Samales”. Your theory has clearly been proven false by archaeologists findings of those ruins.
When the evidence was presented to you and you could not sustain the first lie, you tried to cope by agreeing with some guy who supplanted some mythical Harlas deep into Somali territories.
Your job is to now prove the mythical group who built similar sites and towns all across modern Somaliland, which all have remarkable similarity over a wide stretch of land known to have been inhabited by “Samales”, and still is, inhabited by “Samales”
Explain to us the great population replaced which occurred during the Middle Ages in the Modern Somaliland?
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Amaan Duule
Wallahi you're a funny guy. When it was said that this town was built by Somalis, you refused to accept it without "proof", despite this town being deep in Somali lands with no ajnabi presence anywhere in the vicinity of this site for hundreds of kilometers.
Yet when it was said that this town was built by the Xarla (who are a Somali clan anyhow), despite there being no evidence whatsoever that they inhabited this site at any time period, you accept this without questioning.
Lewis is right when he states that Mogadishu was founded and established by Arab traders. The first tribes of Mogadishu were the Banu Qahtaan. Overwhelming evidence, such as manuscripts, ruined neighborhoods, structures, and archeological evidence of grave sites with foreign names, demonstrates that Mogadishu was founded by Arabs.
Legend, I dont enjoy reading but will read this
Reer Ciise and Samaroon entered the Awdal region after the fall of the Adal Sultanate. Nomadic societies do not have a settled population. They are constantly on the move. Fortified walls were constructed in Zeila by Arab rulers to avert nomadic incursions.
Can you please name a single Somali ruler in Zeila prior to the 19th century? There must have been a Somali leader in Zeila or Awdal before the 19th century if Reer Ciise or Samaroon have historically inhabited the region.
You have to understand that nomadic societies do not have a settled population or permanent settlements. They are constantly on the move in search of water and pasture. Nomadic societies generally do not build or contribute to civilizations. They consume and take. It's wrong to falsely attribute historical Muslim kingdoms such as Adal, Ifat, and Mogadishu to Somalis. It's also intellectually dishonest to say that Somalis founded coastal settlements such as Mogadishu and Zeila.According to some niggas on this site Somalis didn't build anything in the south, Somalis didn't build anything in the north, and Somalis didn't build anything in galbeed. Every single stone settlement in Somaliweyn was built by ajaanib somehow. At some point the Somalis came down from the heavens and took control of all these towns while the ajaanib who built them sunk down into the earth.
Wallahi you're a funny guy. When it was said that this town was built by Somalis, you refused to accept it without "proof", despite this town being deep in Somali lands with no ajnabi presence anywhere in the vicinity of this site for hundreds of kilometers.
Yet when it was said that this town was built by the Xarla (who are a Somali clan anyhow), despite there being no evidence whatsoever that they inhabited this site at any time period, you accept this without questioning.
Harla is not a Somali clan. They are ethno-semeties. You guys are hilarious. The Arabic-speaking nomadic tribe of Beja (Balaw) are Somalis. Harla are Somalis. What's next? Yemenis are Somalis. Everyone is Somali. If Ciise and Samaroon historically inhabited Zeila and Awdal, can you name a single Somali leader prior to the 19th century? It's not rocket science.
Archaeologist said that the graves in Amud are Somali stop lying
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Amaan Duule
Here we go again...
1) Not all Somalis were nomads
2) There is no proof of any non-Somali group living in the vicinity of Abaaso. If you want to say that the people who built Abaaso were different than the people currently living there, the burden of proof is on you.
3) Plenty of nomadic societies have settled populations and contributed to civilization such as the Arabs, Turks, Mongols, etc. In fact, I do not think there is any large ethnic group that has a completely nomadic population and no cities or towns of there own.
Sub archaeologists already confirmed that Amud had Somali Graves and was Somali
Amud is Somali you can cry about it but It won’t change facts
