How do you say these words in somali?

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Hafez

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This ni99a keeps butchering afka hooyo:angryman:
You don't have legs to stand on. There are a lot of Arabic words, Persian words and Indian words in the Somali language. Even the Somali word for foreign 'ajnabi' is Arabic which means it's foreign word. Caadhi iska dhig you wasteman. We made your language what it is.
:childplease:
 
You don't have legs to stand on. There are a lot of Arabic words, Persian words and Indian words in the Somali language. Even the Somali word for foreign 'ajnabi' is Arabic which means it's foreign word. Caadhi iska dhig you wasteman. We made your language what it is.
:childplease:
A lot of the foreign words in the Somali language got a Somali substitute.
Ex the word ajanabi becomes shisheeye in Somali.
 

Hafez

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A lot of the foreign words in the Somali language got a Somali substitute.
Ex the word ajanabi becomes shisheeye in Somali.
Ok then why is the Arabic one most used? Why do Somalis butcher the Arabic words by pronouncing it wrong? This is a stupid discussion anyway.

Sariir
Shaah
Gaxwo
Canab
Timir
Baz (meaning enough or stop)
Hunaak
Badal
Raali (Arabic root word رضى)
Kursi
Jeeb
Khamiis
Hataa (meaning untill)
Basal
Cadas
Tufaax
Fadhlan
Ajnabi
Ximaar
Kuli (meaning all)
Waaxid
Khamri
Khinziir
Dowla
Faham (meaning understand)
Cayaal (meaning children)
Shirkad
Barnaamij


These are just some Arabic words that I've thought of. Even common names like Faarax and Xaliimo are Arabic.
:drakekidding:
 
Ok then why is the Arabic one most used? Why do Somalis butcher the Arabic words by pronouncing it wrong? This is a stupid discussion anyway.

Sariir
Shaah
Gaxwo
Canab
Timir
Baz (meaning enough or stop)
Hunaak
Badal
Raali (Arabic root word رضى)
Kursi
Jeeb
Khamiis
Hataa (meaning untill)
Basal
Cadas
Tufaax
Fadhlan
Ajnabi
Ximaar
Kuli (meaning all)
Waaxid
Khamri
Khinziir
Dowla
Faham (meaning understand)
Cayaal (meaning children)
Shirkad
Barnaamij


These are just some Arabic words that I've thought of. Even common names like Faarax and Xaliimo are Arabic.
:drakekidding:
There is clearly a lot of Arabic words being used in the Somali language as you have listed some of them above, but that doesn't mean they are there because the Somali language is poor.
A lot of the words listed above have their Somali counterpart.
Why are they being used? a very good question...
The revitalization of the Somali language is needed %100
 

Hafez

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There is clearly a lot of Arabic words being used in the Somali language as you have listed some of them above, but that doesn't mean they are there because the Somali language is poor.
A lot of the words listed above have their Somali counterpart.
Why are they being used? a very good question...
The revitalization of the Somali language is needed %100
According to my estimation, there are a few thousand Arabic common nouns that are used in the Somali language.

Forget common nouns, there are also over 300 Arabic verbs used in the Somali language, do you realise how significant that is?

http://www.academia.edu/4874976/300_Arabic_Loan_Verbs_in_Somali

The person who's authored the text that I've just linked you to is called 'Libaan Ahmed', two Arabic names.

I can say Wallahi it was us that made this influence. We are the only remnants of the Arabs that settled. It's not as if Arabs gave you a 'word of the day' before they sailed off when they used to trade with you. We are the descendants of the Arabs that decided to settle on the coast.

Before 1200s, you guys had very strange sounding Cushtic names before you adopted our names. This corresponds with the era that we've started arriving in larger numbers. These are in the books of Arab and non-Arab historians.

Why do you want to distance yourself from the language of the Qur'an? Be grateful that some of the words are part of your daily vocabulary.

You say that all Arabic words have their Somali counterpart. I will ask you just give me the 'Somali counterpart' for the word muhim (important)? Only one word I ask.
 

Hafez

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All Somali sultanates ruled according to our customs, I can show you evidence, yet you want to attack us for 'butchering your language'?
:obamatell:
 

Hafez

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Liban is not an arabic name. :ftw9nwa:
And you would know because you speak Arabic right? :geek:

I must have come across that word once in my life. I forgot the definition and it's root word. It's spelt as -------> ليبان.

Everyone on this forum has either an Arabic first name or second name. And every one of you use Arabic words in your daily vocabulary.

It's caadhi (also an Arabic word) though, let's forget this topic.
 
And you would know because you speak Arabic right? :geek:

I must have come across that word once in my life. I forgot the definition and it's root word. It's spelt as -------> ليبان.

Everyone on this forum has either an Arabic first name or second name. And every one of you use Arabic words in your daily vocabulary.

It's caadhi (also an Arabic word) though, let's forget this topic.

Libaan in Arabic comes from root letters لبن. The Libaan in Somali has a complete different meaning.

I would say 25 to even 30% of Somali language has Arab loan words, but cadcads aren't the cause:fingerwag:. We still have words for almost every loan word used in the language, these words are just not commonly used anymore
 
According to my estimation, there are a few thousand Arabic common nouns that are used in the Somali language.

Forget common nouns, there are also over 300 Arabic verbs used in the Somali language, do you realise how significant that is?

http://www.academia.edu/4874976/300_Arabic_Loan_Verbs_in_Somali

The person who's authored the text that I've just linked you to is called 'Libaan Ahmed', two Arabic names.

I can say Wallahi it was us that made this influence. We are the only remnants of the Arabs that settled. It's not as if Arabs gave you a 'word of the day' before they sailed off when they used to trade with you. We are the descendants of the Arabs that decided to settle on the coast.

Before 1200s, you guys had very strange sounding Cushtic names before you adopted our names. This corresponds with the era that we've started arriving in larger numbers. These are in the books of Arab and non-Arab historians.

Why do you want to distance yourself from the language of the Qur'an? Be grateful that some of the words are part of your daily vocabulary.

You say that all Arabic words have their Somali counterpart. I will ask you just give me the 'Somali counterpart' for the word muhim (important)? Only one word I ask.
You're making it sound like the Somali language is a Cali beesteen(no disrespect) language.

Muhim=lagama marmaan

I love the Arabic language.
It's one of the most beautiful languages in the world.
 

Hafez

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Libaan in Arabic comes from root letters لبن. The Libaan in Somali has a complete different meaning.

I would say 25 to even 30% of Somali language has Arab loan words, but cadcads aren't the cause:fingerwag:. We still have words for almost every loan word used in the language, these words are just not commonly used anymore

How do you know it comes from لبن? Why are you making things up? You do realise لبن means milk right? Another possibility could be that لبن has another meaning and is also another root verb with an ف ع & ل كلمات but you wouldn't find it in modern dictionaries as it's not used anymore. Maybe if you check through Lisaan Al-3arab but I doubt your Arabic is that advanced. MOST native Arabs are not on the level to decipher this.

You're saying cadcads aren't the cause but ironically, when we've arrived, only then did the first Somali (jointly ruled with Arabs) sultanate, the Muzaffar dynasty come about. It functioned according to our customs.

We've had a larger influence on Somalia than you'd like to think.

We are responsible for the development of the Somali urban culture, as yall were pastoralists. We've taught you how a sultanate functions.
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Who else settled with you on Banadir to help these sultanate a function? We are the only remnants of the foreigners, yet you're claiming it wasn't due to us? Wallahi it's impossible that it was due to the Somalis.
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Who were majority of the inhabitants of these urban towns and developed it?
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I'm saying wallahi it's not other than us. The other Arabs decided not to settle, we settled with you along with a few other foreigners with separate ethnic backgrounds.

There was barely any of these new cultural elements to be found in the north. Because we didn't settle there.
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You are the same guy who called us bastards right? May Allah forgive you for insulting thousands of Islamic scholars wrongly. If you continue, may Allah deal with you. We are free from what you claim about us. Screenshot_2016-05-14-05-15-28_1.jpg
 

Hubble

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The problem is that Arabic is seen as a pure language when in fact it had influences too. No language is pure, ancient civilizations and thousands of years of trade contributed to the Arabic language and culture.
 

Hafez

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The problem is that Arabic is seen as a pure language when in fact it had influences too. No language is pure, ancient civilizations and thousands of years of trade contributed to the Arabic language and culture.
No civilisation corrupted the Arabic language or can corrupt the Arabic language. It has a set of rules, it would take me a long time to teach you them. These rules help one recognise a foreign word. In Sarf, these foreign words are considered mamnuu' min as-sarf, they become makhfoudh with a fathah and they don't get tanwinn. I can't teach you this in a short-time. The pure Arab words are all part of the Masdar that the ancient Arabian tribes (including mine) used and gathered. Us and Bani Assad (the sister clan of Quraysh) had similar masdar derived words.

Modern Arabic that people decide to use is corrupted, but ancient Arabic can never ever ever ever be corrupted! It's preserved according to rules that have been laid out by the nuhaa'. One of these being Imam Sibawayh (RH) who was a non-Arab and his mother tongue was also not Arabic. They've standardised these rules. Wallahi if you knew the miracle of this, you would be in awe.

Bottom line, people decide to use modern slang and loan words but reality is, Arabic language is not corrupted and never has been.
 

Hafez

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The Arabic language doesn't need loan words (literally). It derives words from the Masaadir that best corresponds with the word they want to invent.

Arabic language is a miracle wallahi. It's the most sophisticated, yet logical and most vast language on the entire planet. We know that the Qur'an can't be corrupted, Allah (SWT) has thus made the Arabic language a language that's indestructible.

The Arabic language is the most eloquent, articulate language ever. You can make your point across in a way that there's no room for interpretation and grants the khatiib and mukhaatab a like deep understanding of the message being conveyed.

Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand. 12:2
 
@TheXamarCadcadGuy I'm familiar with lisaan AL 3rab and maaliks alfiya regarding Arabi. I can teach you so sit down kid. Libaan in Somali is completely different then Arabi in meaning.

Also I didn't call u guys bastards, jus Arab stains:heh:
 

Hafez

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@TheXamarCadcadGuy I'm familiar with lisaan AL 3rab and maaliks alfiya regarding Arabi. I can teach you so sit down kid. Libaan in Somali is completely different then Arabi in meaning.

Also I didn't call u guys bastards, jus Arab stains:heh:
Maliks alfiyya? That's a 1000 abyat poem on grammar. I'll test you if you want to make these claims.
 
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