"I Have The Somali Version of White Guilt."

[Zak12]

Acting like Barre was Hitler and waqooyi are Jews, give me a break

 

[peterpeter]

I have a confession to make.

The reason I don't take offense when somalilanders and other reer waqooyi tribes talk smack about reer konfur is because deep down, I feel ashamed of some of my relatives and their active participation in the Issaq genocide. You see, some of my grandfathers worked closely with Siad Barre, unfortunately.

Although I'm happy to ran into a fellow somali, a part of me gets anxious if they are reer waqooyi. I think, I hope they don't resent me for what my relatives did. They'll be justified to, but I just hope they don't.

I've had fellow reer konfur chastise me saying "Naya dhig malihid miyaa?!" What dhig? You mean the dhig my ancestors spilled in thousands? One even told me I have "the somali version of white guilt" and to quit it because technically, I didn't kill any isaaq person.

However, for true reconciliation to happen, we, the descendants of the people who were involved in this massacre, should at least acknowledge that it was horrible, and are deeply ashamed and apologetic for what our relatives did to Isaaqs and other waqooyi tribes who were affected.

Thank you sister but we need reparations

 

[Bari]

If i didnt do it i feel no guilt, jiljileeca joojiya

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

The Majeerteen ethnic cleansing happened in 1978 when Isaaq were happy with Siad Barre. Fun fact, their SNM heroes lead the genocide campaign along with MOD red berets. Bantu soldiers were also involved in attacking MJs.

Thousands poisoned, massacred and arrested. They even poisoned the wells and burnt people's houses. It was a scorced earth policy. There was no outrage by Somalis about this. In fact, nobody ever apologised or cared.


Moreover, Somalilanders deleted the Wiki pages that mentioned the MJ ethnic cleansing because they want to act like their heroes were not involved. Most importantly, they spread propaganda that they are the only victims of the brutal Kacaan regime.

@Hodan from HR, ask your family what happened during that time sis. And don't fall for the "we were the only victims" BULLSHIT.

I posted this before on the forum:

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In 1978, Ahmed Saleebaan Dafle, did a speech in Gaalkacyo and said MJ blood and property is 'halal' for the taking, said we left Islam. His troops subsequently raped, poisoned, burnt and murdered thousands of MJs.


Ahmed Saleebaan Dafle

The other men in charge of this ethnic cleansing campaign were all Isaaq

Maxamed Kaahin
Dhagawayne
Xasan Tanzania
Ahmed Mire
Maxamed Nuux

+ Red Beret troops (including Bantu soldiers, for those who think Bantu Somalis are 'innocent' when it comes to Somali conflicts.


NUGAAL

Over 250 houses destroyed
105 wells/water cachments destroyed + poisoned
450 people massacred (of course including women, children and elderly).

In the following places:
Kalabayr, Jalam, Eyl, Rabaable, Magacley, Maygaag, Sugulle, Ballidacar, Qamboobley.


MUDUG:
The following places were targeted for ethnic cleansing:

Ballibusle, Seemade, Qalaanqal, Gosol, Xarfo, Qorile-Dheere, Barde Gobol, Gacnafale, Bacaadweyn, Roox, Labagardaye, Sagaaro-doox, Dogob, Dudun, Galxamur,Laanmadow,Riigomane,Candho-dhexe, Bursaalax,Taaloole,Bayra,Nugaalgaban,


1500 houses burnt
350 water cachments destroyed and poisoned
Over 800 people massacred (of course including women, children and elderly).

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

To wrap up my above post (save it if you are MJ and pass on the history lesson).

Do you think those Isaaq, Marehan, Dhulbahante, Ogaden, Bantu or other Somalis feel guilty about the MJ ethnic cleansing?? They don't give a shit. This is what Somalis are like. Hal il kula soco kuligood.

If there is a man in charge who motivates them, they will wipe your entire family out and believe it was righteous.

 

[Abu Hesi]

 

[New World]

To wrap up my above post (save it if you are MJ and pass on the history lesson).

Do you think those Isaaq, Marehan, Dhulbahante, Ogaden, Bantu or other Somalis feel guilty about the MJ ethnic cleansing?? They don't give a shit. This is what Somalis are like. Hal il kula soco kuligood.

If there is a man in charge who motivates them, they will wipe your entire family out and believe it was righteous.

Do MJ leaders talk about this? What happened to D5 ?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Do MJ leaders talk about this? What happened to D5 ?

Daarood does not exist as a cohesive unit, never did. It is a social media lie. They gleefully took part in wiping out MJs under the order of their daddy, Siad Barre.

The civil war trauma is a more recent memory, that is why many young MJs don't know their history.

 

[Devilsadvocate]

Thank you sister but we need reparations

The thing with reparations is that everyone should receive them, or else it’s not fair. SL wasn’t the only injustice, and I’m not sure if the government has enough money, since so many clans have faced injustices.

 

[New World]

Daarood does not exist as a cohesive unit, never did. It is a social media lie. They gleefully took part in wiping out MJs under the order of their daddy, Siad Barre.

The civil war trauma is a more recent memory, that is why many young MJs don't know their history.

Is that the same for other clans?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Is that the same for other clans?

I don't know if they genocided each other to that level.

 

[jusbrowsin]

What clan are you? I'm positive these isaaqs would FKD your ass if your people were getting smoked.

 

[New World]

I don't know if they genocided each other to that level.

How many MJ died ?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

How many MJ died ?

2000 is a figure I see floating around, but I am sure far more died, as the Red Beret Shaydaans poisoned the water wells.

But Majerteen suffer from historic amnesia and dhaandhaan-nimo which is why you will catch some of them praising the serial killer and Kacaanka Dulaysan.

 

[New World]

2000 is a figure I see floating around, but I am sure far more were affected, as the Red Beret Shaydaans poisoned the water wells.

But Majerteen suffer from historic amnesia and dhaandhaan-nimo which is why you will catch some of them praising the serial killer and Kacaanka Dulaysan.

Does any Clan have a cohesive unit? What was the issue with MJ for Siad Barre to target them directly?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Does any Clan have a cohesive unit? What was the issue with MJ for Siad Barre to target them directly?

Jealousy!

Before Colonialism, Somalia had two Majeerteen Sultanates in the North-East and Central Somalia. You have to remember that due to being traders/seafarers, MJs had wealth, and thanks to the Sultanates- a strong foundation of self-governance. SSDF was founded by the same people. During the forced exodus to Mogadishu, Majeerteen opened the first schools in Mogadishu (see topic below). Instead of seeing the value of us as a prominent Somali clan, he saw us as a threat to his interests.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/the-fathers-of-modern-somali-education.126407/

A lot of people don't know this, but Siad Barre’s clan had a party, “The Marehan Party,” which won no seats—who would vote for a clan party against the SSDF? While no group was perfect, the SSDF was patriotic, democratic, and didn’t use the military to harm clans.

When the MJ president was assassinated (many suspect Barre), Barre stole power. He began chasing MJs out of the country, stripping us of influence, and sending MJ soldiers and military leaders to the front lines against Ethiopia to reduce our influence within the military. His regime de-humanised MJs, falsely calling us evil, colonial pets, and anti-Somali, making it easy to justify ethnic cleansing. The biggest ethnic cleansing took place in 1978-1979.

In short, Barre was a jealous, power-hungry monster. On Judgment Day, we’ll know if he was actually behind the president’s murder.

This is the monster, pictured with the last democratically elected President of Somalia, Cabdirashid Cali Sharmarke, AUN. He was in the military back then, that's all he ever should've been.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

A journalist thought Siad Barre was one of the scariest stories, when he was researching a shadowy Christian political group in America, who funded Siad Barre. Siad Barre said he was willing to pray to Jesus, if he gets weapons and a 'hands-off' policy to 'fight rebels' (ethnically cleanse Somalis).

JEFF SHARLET: Indeed. And Grassley has been involved with the organization for quite some time, since the ’80s, when he traveled to Somalia to join Barre, Siad Barre, in prayer to Jesus. And he brought with him a defense contractor named Bill Brehm.

And Barre was a kind of a cynical character, as you might expect for a dictator. He was very clear. He says, “I’m willing to pray to Jesus, and here’s what I want in return.” He says, “I want my defense budget doubled.” He says, “I want meetings for my officials with the Reagan White House. And I want a sort of a hands-off policy while I crack down on some rebels.” Doug Coe, the leader of the group, wrote back, in essence, “Done, done and done.”

And when we look at history, so it was. And Barre used those weapons, supplied to him in part by the US, to wage a war of almost biblical proportion on his own people, from which Somalia has not recovered to this day. The Family doesn’t consider that a failure; they consider that God’s will for Somalia.

 

[Grimmer]

This the most jileec shit I’ve seen in so long. Why the f*ck should you be held accountable for the actions of your ancestors? At the same time you’re making it seem like they were some miskeen madow who were enslaved.
The second they got bombed they came back and fought for their own independence. They talk shit about reer konfuur because they are also racist/tribalist, it isn’t just rooted from them being massacred. You’re letting them off too easy.

With this logic you should feel guilt for me too, your ancestors committed genocide on some of my rx cousins in Bay. So I want the same unnecessary xishood that you give landers. But your fellow konfuurians are right, dhiig ma lihid wallahi.

 

[New World]

Jealousy!

Before Colonialism, Somalia had two Majeerteen Sultanates in the North-East and Central Somalia. You have to remember that due to being traders/seafarers, MJs had wealth, and thanks to the Sultanates- a strong foundation of self-governance. SSDF was founded by the same people. During the forced exodus to Mogadishu, Majeerteen opened the first schools in Mogadishu (see topic below). Instead of seeing the value of us as a prominent Somali clan, he saw us as a threat to his interests.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/the-fathers-of-modern-somali-education.126407/

A lot of people don't know this, but Siad Barre’s clan had a party, “The Marehan Party,” which won no seats—who would vote for a clan party against the SSDF? While no group was perfect, the SSDF was patriotic, democratic, and didn’t use the military to harm clans.

When the MJ president was assassinated (many suspect Barre), Barre stole power. He began chasing MJs out of the country, stripping us of influence, and sending MJ soldiers and military leaders to the front lines against Ethiopia to reduce our influence within the military. His regime de-humanised MJs, falsely calling us evil, colonial pets, and anti-Somali, making it easy to justify ethnic cleansing. The biggest ethnic cleansing took place in 1978-1979.

In short, Barre was a jealous, power-hungry monster. On Judgment Day, we’ll know if he was actually behind the president’s murder.

This is the monster, pictured with the last democratically elected President of Somalia, Cabdirashid Cali Sharmarke, AUN. He was in the military back then, that's all he ever should've been.

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Thanks for the information.

 

[reer]

This the most jileec shit I’ve seen in so long. Why the f*ck should you be held accountable for the actions of your ancestors? At the same time you’re making it seem like they were some miskeen madow who were enslaved.
The second they got bombed they came back and fought for their own independence. They talk shit about reer konfuur because they are also racist/tribalist, it isn’t just rooted from them being massacred. You’re letting them off too easy.

With this logic you should feel guilt for me too, your ancestors committed genocide on some of my rx cousins in Bay. So I want the same unnecessary xishood that you give landers. But your fellow konfuurians are right, dhiig ma lihid wallahi.

lol. some of them even call aidids qabiil 'faqash'. dont take them too seriously.