I made a mistake a year ago and I need to talk about it

[Atoosh]

I can deeply relate to this because I left Islam for almost a decade. At the time, I thought the grass was greener on the other side. I started viewing Islam as a restrictive religion that seemed to socially disapprove of everything. But after living that way for years, it wasn’t until I touched the metaphorical fire and returned to Islam that I realized how morally and spiritually empty life feels without faith. Without a connection to God, you end up living in a delusional world where death and the afterlife are out of sight, out of mind.

By the grace of Allah, my parents never gave up on me. They constantly made dua, and their hope never wavered. Years later, I felt something deep within my soul urging me to get up and pray. In that moment of vulnerability, I asked Allah for guidance — and I’ve never looked back.

Whenever my faith feels low, I remind myself of the countless times I’ve prayed tahajjud and seen my duas answered. It couldn’t have been a coincidence.

If you’re feeling lost, I encourage you to sincerely pray two rakahs of salah with an open heart and ask Allah for guidance. There’s no better wish to ask from Allah than guidance. See how it makes you feel and whether it brings clarity or peace to your heart.

Take time to connect with the Qur’an and explore its teachings for yourself. By doing so, you’ll uncover the truth behind common misconceptions and gain a clearer understanding of what the Qur’an actually prescribes.

And remember what Allah says in the Qur’an:

"Do people think that once they say, 'We believe,' they will be left without being tested?" (29:2)

Faith is a journey, and it’s normal to struggle — but it’s in those struggles that we often find the greatest growth.

Remember:

"Whoever draws close to Me by the length of a hand, I will draw close to him by the length of an arm. Whoever draws close to Me the by length of an arm, I will draw close to him by the length of a fathom. Whoever comes to Me walking, I will come to him running."

 

[Inquisitive_]

There's da'eef hadiths that are clearly misogynistic. The average Muslim doesn't know the difference between da'eef and sahih. The other issue is, even well meaning scholars projected their cultural biases on quranic and hadith interpretation, like the ruling that was passed on hijab not being wajib on slave Muslim women. Their reasoning being "for practical reasons" as the buyers wanted to make sure the slave women were healthy with no wounds. Can you believe this was considered normal back in the days?!




As for the inheritance law, it is not set in stone. The son getting double inheritance was practical in that era. However, if a parent leaves behind a will where they allocate double of the inheritance to the daughter instead, or assigned equal portions to both the son and daughter, this takes precedence over the Quranic law, as we are suppose to honor the parent's wish. Again, lots of people don't know this.





I didn't know he wasn't Muslim before this incident. So you see? I have always been confused as to why a whole prophet who we should look upto as role model, committed murder. I keep an open mind because the way I view things keeps changing with age and experience.



The only reason I have conviction is because I've had supernatural encounters. I know for a fact that we are souls inside human bodies. That's why I emphasize on Tawheed, even if one is having doubts. If you believe there exists a God of this world, and thrive to do good while you are here, you are guaranteed paradise. The prophet begged his uncle to just say the first part of shahada, so he could enter paradise. And other independent hadiths support this approach as well. Once your faith is strong enough, you'll easily move mountains for the sake of your Creator.

There is a difference between intentionally comitting murder and unintentional.

He punched a man that was a foot soldier of pharoah enslaving his people killing toddlers, the punch of moses was with such force that it ended up killing the criminal in a single blow, that was not his intention, and it's obvious from the shock and reaction in the Qur'an, he was always Muslim just not a prophet prior.

If the incident was caught on camera today it wouldn't even be manslaughter or third degree, a single punch in an act of self defence is an accident, it's not normal for someone to die from a single punch.

As for your comments about inheritance, if the mother or father wants to leave more for the daughter they will have to give that money or real estate to her prior to their death, no will supersedes Sharia, even them saying it on their death bed will not be accepted, they have to give the estate prior to this for it to be binding, anything outside of this (inheritance) fair game

 

[Hodan from HR]

There is a difference between intentionally comitting murder and unintentional.

He punched a man that was a foot soldier of pharoah enslaving his people killing toddlers, the punch of moses was with such force that it ended up killing the criminal in a single blow, that was not his intention, and it's obvious from the shock and reaction in the Qur'an, he was always Muslim just not a prophet prior.

The story goes two men were fighting one was Israel and the other was Egytian. Nabi Muse sided with the banu Israel man, without knowing what was going on and punched other guy, who died immediately. Can you quote the verses or hadith where it says this man was killing toddlers because this is new information for me.

Also, what about Musa's character and/or believes categorize him as Muslim before he become a prophet? He may have been a monotheist but he didn't perform the 5 pillars of Islam.

If the incident was caught on camera today it wouldn't even be manslaughter or third degree, a single punch in an act of self defence is an accident, it's not normal for someone to die from a single punch.

It wasn't self defense tho. He got involved to side with a fellow banu Israel. I know he didn't intented to kill but the man died. That is why he had to flee Egypt.

As for your comments about inheritance, if the mother or father wants to leave more for the daughter they will have to give that money or real estate to her prior to their death, no will supersedes Sharia, even them saying it on their death bed will not be accepted, they have to give the estate prior to this for it to be binding, anything outside of this (inheritance) fair game

So what is the point of writing a will if they are technically, invalid in Islam. No offense but this whole explanation is a joke. When will we, as a nation, get tired of the cognitive dissonance and all these mental gymnastics?

One minute, Islam places parents in high regard but also, we shouldn't honor the said parent dying wish when it comes to their hard earned wealth.

Btw, this is not a gender issue. I could have 2 sons and desire to leave more inheritance for the one who is more responsible, than the one who will waste it. At least, the explanation of how I was taught makes sense. Can you provide a valid reason why we should ignore a parent's will and follow the verse? As this ruling comes off very disingenuous and something a greedy relative came up with. We like to shut off our critical thinking and moral responsibility because wadad hebel hebel said this and that.

 

[Inquisitive_]

So what is the point of writing a will if they are technically, invalid in Islam. No offense but this whole explanation is a joke. When will we, as a nation, get tired of the cognitive dissonance and all these mental gymnastics?

One minute, Islam places parents in high regard but also, we shouldn't honor the said parent dying wish when it comes to their hard earned wealth.

Btw, this is not a gender issue. I could have 2 sons and desire to leave more inheritance for the one who is more responsible, than the one who will waste it. At least, the explanation of how I was taught makes sense. Can you provide a valid reason why we should ignore a parent's will and follow the verse? As this ruling comes off very disingenuous and something a greedy relative came up with. We like to shut off our critical thinking and moral responsibility because wadad hebel hebel said this and that.

What I forgot to point out is that at least 2/3 must go to relatives, the other 1/3 is your decision if you write a will.

But to answer your wider objection, it will stop abuses and injustices that is common, you are assuming that parents make the right decision based on logic, it might be true for you, but its not for the majority, its all feeling based.

In your understanding if I had 6 kids, I can deny 5 of them and give everything to 1, what kind of justice is this?

Even if the others were irresponsible and its proven, can you not see the wars, murders and bad blood this creates?

Do you really think that Son/Daughter is going to survive? they will be hunted down and murdered, these types decisions produce heinous crimes and generational feuds.

You have options of course and are able to give the other 1/3 you have a right over to a specific descendant, but even that is not a wise thing to do, it creates bad blood for generations, you destroy your lineage with this, you have no idea how much feud exists over this.

Family harmony is more important then money, and I thank Allah he put rules in place like this, looking at our generation of parents, they are terrible at decision making, and they get worse with age as all parents do with cognitive decline and erratic emotional outbursts.

You would not want to leave your right of inheritance in their hands, they could love you all your life, but start despising you moments before death, and sign everything over to someone else, silly to leave such a grand thing in human control.

The story goes two men were fighting one was Israel and the other was Egytian. Nabi Muse sided with the banu Israel man, without knowing what was going on and punched other guy, who died immediately. Can you quote the verses or hadith where it says this man was killing toddlers because this is new information for me.

The Quran explicitly states in many verses Pharaoh would kill the newborns every other year, and if you read between the lines rape their women.

Baqarah verse 49
"˹Remember˺ how We delivered you from the people of Pharaoh, who afflicted you with dreadful torment, slaughtering your sons and keeping your women. That was a severe test from your Lord."

Who do you think did the killing of the toddlers and raping the female's ?

No different to what is happening in Gaza, Netanyahu isn't bombing himself or raping, he just gave the command along with Rabbi's who gave the religious justification for rape, and the establishment soldiers obeys and commit those heinous crimes.

So Moses who himself escaped this death miraculously would have been a witness to all of these injustices, even Allah describes this as a severe test, so he acted out when he saw abuse from one of the soldiers. (Quran is ambiguous on this abuse, but the Bible states the soldier was physically beating the Israelites slave to which Moses reacted)

Also, what about Musa's character and/or believes categorize him as Muslim before he become a prophet? He may have been a monotheist but he didn't perform the 5 pillars of Islam.

Linguistically Muslim means to submit, Islam means submission, so someone who is upon natural fitrah (monotheism) known as Hanifiyah (same as Abraham is described in the Quran) is basically Muslim linguistically as they submit to 1 God and reject polytheism.

It wasn't self defense tho. He got involved to side with a fellow banu Israel. I know he didn't intented to kill but the man died. That is why he had to flee Egypt.

We don't know this but if you read between the lines and apply common sense, when an armed soldier of a genocidal regime that is beating a civilian and you try to reprimand him, what is usually the outcome?

He will either kill you or hurt you, hence the natural reaction would be self defence, its unlikely Moses would just enter the fray with a punch, although he would have every right to do so since that soldier is armed and would likely kill or seriously hurt him.

 

[loyaa_n]

I didn't know he wasn't Muslim before this incident. So you see? I have always been confused as to why a whole prophet who we should look upto as role model, committed murder. I keep an open mind because the way I view things keeps changing with age and experience.

I'm confused. When you first heard about this story, didn't anyone tell you that nabi Musa didn't mean to kill the Egyptian and that it happened by mistake. He didn't know he was strong enough to kill a man with a punch.

 

[Hodan from HR]

I'm confused. When you first heard about this story, didn't anyone tell you that nabi Musa didn't mean to kill the Egyptian and that it happened by mistake. He didn't know he was strong enough to kill a man with a punch.

You should read rest of my posts in this thread walal

 

[Hodan from HR]

What I forgot to point out is that at least 2/3 must go to relatives, the other 1/3 is your decision if you write a will.

But to answer your wider objection, it will stop abuses and injustices that is common, you are assuming that parents make the right decision based on logic, it might be true for you, but its not for the majority, its all feeling based.

In your understanding if I had 6 kids, I can deny 5 of them and give everything to 1, what kind of justice is this?

Even if the others were irresponsible and its proven, can you not see the wars, murders and bad blood this creates?

Do you really think that Son/Daughter is going to survive? they will be hunted down and murdered, these types decisions produce heinous crimes and generational feuds.

You have options of course and are able to give the other 1/3 you have a right over to a specific descendant, but even that is not a wise thing to do, it creates bad blood for generations, you destroy your lineage with this, you have no idea how much feud exists over this.

Family harmony is more important then money, and I thank Allah he put rules in place like this, looking at our generation of parents, they are terrible at decision making, and they get worse with age as all parents do with cognitive decline and erratic emotional outbursts.

You would not want to leave your right of inheritance in their hands, they could love you all your life, but start despising you moments before death, and sign everything over to someone else, silly to leave such a grand thing in human control.

If I am getting your argument correctly, you are saying the reason why this verse overrides the will is for the greater good of the family and community. I could argue allocating wealth to corrupt family members destroys trust within the family and gives these bad apples influence to spread more corruption at a larger scale. Giving a lazy selfish person money makes them more entitled. Once they ran out of it, do you think they won't harass their relatives for more? They could also use that money to buy drugs, sleep around and party with friends thereby, spreading more fahisha.

My point is, these scholars, although were well-meaning in their ijtihad, had flaws. That is why we have different interpretations of one quranic verse /hadith and multiple sects.

The Quran explicitly states in many verses Pharaoh would kill the newborns every other year, and if you read between the lines rape their women.

Baqarah verse 49
"˹Remember˺ how We delivered you from the people of Pharaoh, who afflicted you with dreadful torment, slaughtering your sons and keeping your women. That was a severe test from your Lord."


Linguistically Muslim means to submit, Islam means submission, so someone who is upon natural fitrah (monotheism) known as Hanifiyah (same as Abraham is described in the Quran) is basically Muslim linguistically as they submit to 1 God and reject polytheism.
We don't know this but if you read between the lines and apply common sense, when an armed soldier of a genocidal regime that is beating a civilian and you try to reprimand him, what is usually the outcome?

I know musa was monotheistic. The reason why the Muslim ummah is fragmented is because every scholar is reading between the lines and applying common sense.

I just want muslim leaders to be frank about what is in the Quran and what is human opinion. Because the masses are being gaslit and they are afraid of being munafiq if they question, when clearly most of the khilaaf is due to humans limited understanding caused by cultural differences and gender biases. I have no doubt that the saudi scholars who deduced women not to drive cars, thought they were doing the right thing. They have always been well-meaning, aren't they? Even to the detriment of others' quality of life.


Anyway, I do not wish to go round and round arguing about some scholars utilitarian opinions. I consider myself a spiritual Muslim. The creator has given us free will and said there is no compulsion in religion. As long as I fulfil my 5 pillars and not harming the creation, I'm happy with my religion. As for my wealth and my moral beliefs, I realize I don't have much control even if I disagree as it is governed to some extent by the country I reside in. I am just against man-made laws being paraded as Allah laws.


@ditto Praying, fasting, giving charity, having a sense of community are all good for your wellbeing. People's opinions, whether exmuslims or extremists, are their opinions. You will need to have your own opinion because you need Ilahi. Pave your own path by doing research and cultivating a relationship with Your Creator.

 

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[Inquisitive_]

If I am getting your argument correctly, you are saying the reason why this verse overrides the will is for the greater good of the family and community. I could argue allocating wealth to corrupt family members destroys trust within the family and gives these bad apples influence to spread more corruption at a larger scale. Giving a lazy selfish person money makes them more entitled. Once they ran out of it, do you think they won't harass their relatives for more? They could also use that money to buy drugs, sleep around and party with friends thereby, spreading more fahisha.

My point is, these scholars, although were well-meaning in their ijtihad, had flaws. That is why we have different interpretations of one quranic verse /hadith and multiple sects.

No not at all, to the contrary, why would the verse of inheritance be in the Quran if your will is superior which is what you are arguing for?

What is the point of the verse then? its the second longest verse in the Quran, for me to accept your view, I have to throw that verse out, and take the position that my reasoning, logic and will supersedes the commandments of Allah in the Quran, do you see the danger here?

I know musa was monotheistic. The reason why the Muslim ummah is fragmented is because every scholar is reading between the lines and applying common sense.

I just want muslim leaders to be frank about what is in the Quran and what is human opinion. Because the masses are being gaslit and they are afraid of being munafiq if they question,

Anyway, I do not wish to go round and round arguing about some scholars utilitarian opinions. I consider myself a spiritual Muslim. The creator has given us free will and said there is no compulsion in religion. As long as I fulfil my 5 pillars and not harming the creation, I'm happy with my religion. As for my wealth and my moral beliefs, I realize I don't have much control even if I disagree as it is governed to some extent by the country I reside in. I am just against man-made laws being paraded as Allah laws.

I actually share your views here, there is a lot of things being touted as DEEN that are simply NOT DEEN.

You also want to avoid going to the opposite extreme which is to ignore everything and allow each laymen to deduce his own jurisprudence, its essentially what the Khawariij butchering Muslims have done and also the secular liberals that judge the haram/halal based on Western Standards.

The Saudi example banning women driving nothing to do with religion, neither does the whole concept of women "can't travel" without Mahram and many other things we would both agree on but will get us labelled as deviants or modernists, by one of those extremists.

These are the unfortunate times we live in today, both sides of the extremes are dominant, but the good thing is that the masses are in the middle.

Allah encourages us to "think" "reason" and "reflect" many times in the Quran, so any group telling you to abandon those faculties and follow scholar blindly are going against the edicts of God and thus if you apply those God given faculties you will reject it immediately.

Its on that basis why I reject the will on your death bed supersedes several Ayah in the Quran about the division of inheritance and how it should be split, until you present me proof to the contrary.

We also have a hadith of a person that asked this to the prophet, and he only allowed him to be in control of 1/3 of his will, the other 2/3 will go through inheritance, and the Prophet did remark that even that 1/3 was too much and it would have been better to leave it all to your Family,

That's where the scholars derived the 1/3 rule from, that loser son you want to deprive has a right because much of his rizq came through you as the parent, if he is truly a loser and you deprive him, he will hunt down & kill/harm the others, which you don't want, it happens all the time, their life and honour is worth more then money, his own self-harm is the lesser evil here.

 

[Sigmundd]

I'm late and I'm sorry that you are going through all this sis. It's sad to me how you are now considering how cool you are on this forum. Exmuslim reddit are full of hopeless people who inflict their misery on others and are taking a joy of you having these feelings. Don't let them and the shayateens poison you and come back to Islam. Everything points to the deen being the truth, all other religion points to God having partners and that Allah is weak Subhanallah. Islam is pure monotheism where such thing isn't even a question. There are many evidence pointing to God existence sis and a God wouldn't let us roam on this earth without guidance. If you need any questions answered I'm always here