If HSM folds tomorrow...

[TheLand]

With Abiy? That is only rumors, he is meeting with Erdogan.

You and many others on here need to stop talking out of your ass

 

[TheLand]

Rumours circling that hsm will bend the knee about the MOU. Can’t wait for the fuckery

 

[The Oponian Guild]

HSM sold us

He talked the talk and made all these promises when he was mucaarad and Deni and Madoobe took him at his word just for the mere fact they wanted mr cheese gone. Now they’ve got Satan in place of his emissary.

 

[Midas]

Why don't people on here realize that this is the one issue which everybody besides ethiopia will take somalias side. For crying out loud this probaly the one time everybody in the African union will be heavily on somalia's side. Turkey which is neutral between somalia and ethiopia will also heavily lean on somalia's side. Since Why woukd they want to have to have another party to negotiate with on somali territory. Plus Turkeys enemy the uae would become more powerful.

I dont know why people on here and twitter keep thinking this pipe dream will happen .

 

[Midas]

Some of you guys are obviously addicted to doomerism and the sky is falling rhetoric.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Why don't people on here realize that this is the one issue which everybody besides ethiopia will take somalias side. For crying out loud this probaly the one time everybody in the African union will be heavily on somalia's side. Turkey which is neutral between somalia and ethiopia will also heavily lean on somalia's side. Since Why woukd they want to have to have another party to negotiate with on somali territory. Plus Turkeys enemy the uae would become more powerful.

I dont know why people on here and twitter keep thinking this pipe dream will happen .

You show a speds sophistry of politics.

 

[TheLand]

Some of you guys are obviously addicted to doomerism and the sky is falling rhetoric.

Most of us actually think this is great

 

[Pastoralist]

For crying out loud this probaly the one time everybody in the African union will be heavily on somalia's side.

•HSM got abused by Ethiopia over the MOU during the AU summit, other African countries said nothing

•EAC also said nothing supporting Somalia

Africans aren’t with us.

Turkey which is neutral between somalia and ethiopia will also heavily lean on somalia's side. Since Why woukd they want to have to have another party to negotiate with on somali territory.

Turkey can’t deny Ethiopia either in wanting access to the sea, so turkey is probably trying to find a middle ground. Just know sxb, if it’s anything beyond a port, like a navy base with Ethiopian EEZ nearby, HSM deserves to be fed to crocodiles alive in the shabelle river.

 

[Hilmaam]

SL is no way an independent country, if Somalia is under threat of being annexed by an aggressor it is correct in using any means it has including help from its allies which will benefit it according to intl.law

HSM sees the country as a irir confederacy but let’s not pass that off as the reality on the ground when he can arm SSC to deter xabashi thinking of invading. Qatar commented saying it will go the extra mile for Somalia following excursion from Ethiopia. Yet no steps have been taken by Hassan to take advantage of this relationship or act against Ethiopia by stopping their airlines and imports/exports from & to us.

Us saying “it was inevitable” betrays the thousands of Somalis who would put their lives on the line against Ethiopia who are not yet part of SNA due to Hassan’s poor leadership.

Why worry about hypothetical somaliland occupation. Occupation happening right now in gedo, sws , hiraan.

Ethiopia doesn’t have power to recognize anybody. It’s like Djibouti recognizing DDS to counter Ethiopia port access doesn’t mean anything

 

[TheLand]

Why worry about hypothetical somaliland occupation. Occupation happening right now in gedo, sws , hiraan.

Ethiopia doesn’t have power to recognize anybody. It’s like Djibouti recognizing DDS to counter Ethiopia port access doesn’t mean anything

What an absolute shit show we are. We probably don’t even deserve to have a country

 

[Pastoralist]

Why worry about hypothetical somaliland occupation. Occupation happening right now in gedo, sws , hiraan.

Ethiopia doesn’t have power to recognize anybody. It’s like Djibouti recognizing DDS to counter Ethiopia port access doesn’t mean anything

We have no choice that’s why, Somali politicians like kheyre understand that Somalia has to appear strong when weak and appear weak when strong. Gurgurte doesn’t understand this.

if Somalia doesn’t uphold its sovereignty from mere threats, other countries will pursue the same thing with Somalia. Watch Somalia be Uganda’s first port by citing “if Ethiopia has access why can’t we?“ after the MOU.

 

[TheLand]

We have no choice that’s why, Somali politicians like kheyre understand that Somalia has to appear strong when weak and appear weak when strong. Gurgurte doesn’t understand this.

if Somalia doesn’t uphold its sovereignty from mere threats, other countries will pursue the same thing with Somalia. Watch Somalia be Uganda’s first port by citing “if Ethiopia has access why can’t we?“ after the MOU.

 

[Hilmaam]

What an absolute shit show we are. We probably don’t even deserve to have a country

lol HSM lives in fanatasy dude words don’t mean a thing

 

[Pastoralist]

We can learn a lot from Chinese, they had a worse civil war than us 6 times

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

We have no choice that’s why, Somali politicians like kheyre understand that Somalia has to appear strong when weak and appear weak when strong. Gurgurte doesn’t understand this.

if Somalia doesn’t uphold its sovereignty from mere threats, other countries will pursue the same thing with Somalia. Watch Somalia be Uganda’s first port by citing “if Ethiopia has access why can’t we?“ after the MOU.

You can't hate HSM for being powerless one day and then attack him for consolidating power in Jubbaland the next day. You have to pick a position because right now you want to have your cake and eat it. He needs time to build his power by removing all his competition but you don't want to see that happen but you want to complain about sovereignty not being upheld.

HSM will have to unify Somalia first, it's not even a country right now. No point comparing to china which was unified thousands of years ago.

 

[Pastoralist]

You can't hate HSM for being powerless one day and then attack him for consolidating power in Jubbaland the next day. You have to pick a position because right now you want to have your cake and eat it. He needs time to build his power by removing all his competition but you don't want to see that happen but you want to complain about sovereignty not being upheld.

???

nigga what are you talking. It’d be a dream to have madobe out.

 

[TheLand]

You can't hate HSM for being powerless one day and then attack him for consolidating power in Jubbaland the next day. You have to pick a position because right now you want to have your cake and eat it. He needs time to build his power by removing all his competition but you don't want to see that happen but you want to complain about sovereignty not being upheld.

I hope you keep this sentiment for when Cirro consolidates his power

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

???

nigga what are you talking. It’d be a dream to have madobe out.

HSM also needs to have his elections too, in my view Somalia needs continuity more than anything else. No change of President for at least ten years.

 

[Hilmaam]

We have no choice that’s why, Somali politicians like kheyre understand that Somalia has to appear strong when weak and appear weak when strong. Gurgurte doesn’t understand this.

if Somalia doesn’t uphold its sovereignty from mere threats, other countries will pursue the same thing with Somalia. Watch Somalia be Uganda’s first port by citing “if Ethiopia has access why can’t we?“ after the MOU.

This MOU is distraction I ignore it. I will worry about somaliland when it gets occupied . Not a hypothetical but actual Ethiopia troops their by force like south.

HSM could partner with rebel group and sign MOU and give symbolic recognition to ONLF or Oromo liberation group but still it’s fake African countries don’t have this power. As long as foreign troops occupy south no point talking about freedom or somalinimo/reunifcatoon

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

I hope you keep this sentiment for when Cirro consolidates his power

Consolidate what power? Cirro is my President and all Somalilanders.