Is Allah Punishing California?

[Basra]

But sometimes it is

of course, some times and maybe more than sometimes there is Devine intervention.


But having read a lot of Surahs, listen to countless Khutbahs, it is my informed opinion that Allaah swt does not directly involve in our earthly world. Had Allaah swt done that, there will be a universal altering of cosmic and imbalances.

Of course, we have good angels and bad angels, the good angels protect us.

There is also Dua u make to Allaah swt, prayers, your tobaahs. all those alter things but not immediately, everything has its time

 

[AussieHustler]

But sometimes it is

@Zayn

when Allah says that he predetermined everything and written on Lo7 Ma7fuz, why does he need to test humans and in particular the suffering of children? You guys possess similar religious views like our grandmothers and you unwittingly paint Allah as a monster who’s always angry and enjoys punishing people even powerless children. Natural disasters have got nothing to do with Divine interventions.

 

[Abdullnur]

It reminds me of the fire in the end times that will come from the east and go to the west of the world.

California is in the west???

 

[Basra]

@Zayn

when Allah says that he predetermined everything and written on Lo7 Ma7fuz, why does he need to test humans and in particular the suffering of children? You guys possess similar religious views like our grandmothers because you unwittingly paint Allah as a monster who’s always angry and enjoys punishing people even powerless children. Natural disasters have got nothing to do with Divine interventions.

@AussieHustler the test is necessary to mark your location in Paradise, The more u r tested and pass the better your here after.

Children Suffering, God created them, so he knows what is good for them than u. U r a mere mortal who will die on his appointed date.

 

[AussieHustler]

@AussieHustler the test is necessary to mark your location in Paradise, The more u r tested and pass the better your here after.

Children Suffering, God created them, so he knows what is good for them than u. U r a mere mortal who will die on his appointed date.

@Basra

So God punishes children because he can do to them whatever he wants even make them suffer and die an agonising painful death because he created them? What sort of god is that?

 

[Zayn]

California is in the west???

What part of the world do you live in sxb

 

[Yahya]

California is in the west???

The fire in that time would burn across the world and spread. It might be a volcanic eruption or comet like the one that wipe out the dinosaurs.

 

[Zayn]

@Basra

So God punishes children because he can do to them whatever he wants even make them suffer and die an agonising painful death because he created them? What sort of god is that?

The God that still tolerates your ass when ya dont belive in Him and slander Him every chance you get

 

[Zayn]

@Zayn

when Allah says that he predetermined everything and written on Lo7 Ma7fuz, why does he need to test humans and in particular the suffering of children? You guys possess similar religious views like our grandmothers and you unwittingly paint Allah as a monster who’s always angry and enjoys punishing people even powerless children. Natural disasters have got nothing to do with Divine interventions.

God is merciful. He forgives our sins. What if everytime you sin one of your body organs fail? Or every kaffir is taken away from Dunya

 

[Basra]

@Basra

So God punishes children because he can do to them whatever he wants even make them suffer and die an agonising painful death because he created them? What sort of god is that?

@AussieHustler


Do u believe in the concept of, if u own something, u can do whatever u want with it? U can't pretend to me u care about these children more than their own God who made them?


U know Prophet Musa pbuh was tested by a prophet pbuh. The prophet told Musa pbud, please stop here, u have no patience. Go your way, and Musa pbuh said, no no please I will be patient.


So the prophet pbuh killed an innocent child.


Musa pbuh said, wait a minute. This is unfair. How can u kill an innocent child,



Later the prophet pbuh explained to Musa pbuh we must part our way, you have no patience.


The child if grown, would have made his parents suffer with problems of no end, God gave the parents other kids who were obedient and the best behavior. His parents were righteous parents who believe in God.


So u see, God can give and take, u have no say, unless u can create your own humans @AussieHustler

 

[Ayubi]

@Zayn

when Allah says that he predetermined everything and written on Lo7 Ma7fuz, why does he need to test humans and in particular the suffering of children? You guys possess similar religious views like our grandmothers and you unwittingly paint Allah as a monster who’s always angry and enjoys punishing people even powerless children. Natural disasters have got nothing to do with Divine interventions.

@AussieHustler I already explained Qadr to you in another thread, what don't you understand? I gave logical examples to perfectly explain Qadr. Here's what I wrote to you earlier:

Let me give you an example:

Just because Allah knows the future and what would happen that doesn’t mean he’s controlling us and we “have no free will.”

A teacher in a class room might know a student who would pass or fail depending on their character! That doesn’t mean the teacher should be blamed for the student failing just because she knew the student was going to fail in the past.

The book of Allah (the preserved tablet) is Allahs knowledge of every single detail that’s going to happen till the day of judgement. That doesn’t mean he’s controlling us.

Just like your boss writes in his book that your going to come for an upcoming interview next week, If you come it doesn’t mean your boss is forcing you! It just means that he knows you’ll be coming and simply wrote it down before it took place.

That’s the best example of Qadr and how you could understand it.

 

[Muji]

The countries that persecute and oppress women seem to be doing the worst. The countries where women’s rights are established seem to be doing the best.

 

[AussieHustler]

The God that still tolerates your ass when ya dont belive in Him and slander Him every chance you get

@Zayn

It’s you guys who are slandering god and saying that he is flexing his muscles to humans to show them that he could punish everyone with natural disasters including children while I’m defending him and telling you that Devine intervention has nothing to do with natural disasters. To that end, I’ve given you Indonesia as an example. You guys mimick what sheikh Ali shiirweeyne told you, if I were you, I would seek enlightened sheikhs who are well learned how the world functions and are well versed in the religion.

 

[Basra]

@Zayn

It’s you guys who are slandering god and saying that he is flexing his muscles to humans to show them that he could punish everyone with natural disasters including children while I’m defending him and telling you that Devine intervention has nothing to do with natural disasters. To that end, I’ve given you Indonesia as an example. You guys mimick what sheikh Ali shiirweeyne told you, if I were you, I would seek enlightened sheikhs who are well learned how the world functions and are well versed in the religion.

I don't think your motives here is to defend God. U are angry at God. lets be honest huuno.

 

[Zayn]

@Zayn

It’s you guys who are slandering god and saying that he is flexing his muscles to humans to show them that he could punish everyone with natural disasters including children while I’m defending him and telling you that Devine intervention has nothing to do with natural disasters. To that end, I’ve given you Indonesia as an example. You guys mimick what sheikh Ali shiirweeyne told you, if I were you, I would seek enlightened sheikhs who are well learned how the world functions and are well versed in the religion.

All I just said was maybe it could be punishment but if you want to defend Him why you left Him when He is callin you to success and you followed Shaitan callin you to Hellfire?

 

[AussieHustler]

I don't think your motives here is to defend God. U are angry at God. lets be honest huuno.

@Basra

Let’s stick to the discussion at hand, I thought you’ve learnt few good lessons from sheikh Menk, but boy o boy, was I wrong because you could never take the Somali mentality out of a Somali.

 

[Zayn]

@Basra

Let’s stick to the discussion at hand, I thought you’ve learnt few good lessons from sheikh Menk, but boy o boy, was I wrong because you could never take the Somali mentality out of a Somali.

Warya you have been fooled by Cadaan and I warned ya too bad I couldnt save ya ass. Have nice time with Satan in hell

 

[Dhegey]

I can see the smoke from my high school in LA. The smoke disappears one day. And the next day I can see it from the direction of the valley.

 

[AussieHustler]

Warya you have been fooled by Cadaan and I warned ya too bad I couldnt save ya ass. Have nice time with Satan in hell

@Zayn

jazaakallah akhii and if I ever meet you in “hell”, I will lobby for your expulsion.

 

[Zayn]

I can see the smoke from my high school in LA. The smoke disappears one day. And the next day I can see it from the direction of the valley.

Leave that hell bro