Is anyone here agnostic/atheist or non-religious?

[Do]

If you still have some doubts here are two videos you can watch.

An excellent paper on this too

Understanding Aisha’s Age: An Interdisciplinary Approach | Yaqeen Institute for Islamic Research

This paper elucidates the flawed nature of accusations of the Prophet’s alleged immorality as well as how Islam teaches us to adapt the message of the Qur’an to changing circumstances.

yaqeeninstitute.org

Dont worry having doubts about this it isn’t kufr it was a bitter pill to swallow at first but when you learn more about the context it becomes much more understandable.

Thanks for these resources, walaalo

I've actually watched that first video, where he primarily focused on presentism as a logical fallacy when tackling Aisha's age at the time of consummation. I found it enlightening and it did help me at the time, but I feel like, as a woman, I'll never feel completely on board with that hadith, even if I consciously accept it on a rational level for the sake of Allah (SWT). Maybe I should watch it again.

When I was her age, I had no concept of sex or romance so the fact that some backward types of Muslims like the Timmy Js who've used it to justify harming little girls will always make my stomach turn...

But thanks again.

 

[Yami]

Thanks for these resources, walaalo

I've actually watched that first video, where he primarily focused on presentism as a logical fallacy when tackling Aisha's age at the time of consummation. I found it enlightening and it did help me at the time, but I feel like, as a woman, I'll never feel completely on board with that hadith, even if I consciously accept it on a rational level for the sake of Allah (SWT). Maybe I should watch it again.

When I was her age, I had no concept of sex or romance so the fact that some backward types of Muslims like the Timmy Js who've used it to justify harming little girls will always make my stomach turn...

But thanks again.

There's too many problems with Aisha's age at consummation. Just ignore that Hadith even though its sahih. You'll be stuck in a never ending cycle of questioning your religion if you keep on reminding yourself of her.

Coping > religious despair

 

[Do]

There's too many problems with Aisha's age at consummation. Just ignore that Hadith even though its sahih. You'll be stuck in a never ending cycle of questioning your religion if you keep on reminding yourself of her.

Coping > religious despair

Ignorance is bliss, as they say.

 

[error1]

i fully believe in islam I believe in 1 god and that prophet muhammed is last messenger Thats it.

I love being muslim, may allah guide all of us

Good for you two, I have no hatred for Muslims or any religion lol

 

[munaad]

My deen has fluctuated so much and its the worst its ever been rn. I also disagree with alot of stuff in the hadeeths and a few in the quran so that probably takes me out of islam by itself.

 

[Yami]

Last few weeks I lowkey turned into OP I’m back to Jahanam squad

loool some fuckery just happened with one of my closest friends turning ex Muslim and smashing a bunch of girls + treating the ones who didn’t want his nasty dick like shit.

This is like the second “sign” I’ve gotten this year to be Muslim again I’ll probably consider it atp cuz this hit a little too close to home

I’ll look past the Aisha stuff & stay away from delusional Hanbali Wahhabis who made me start doubting this religion to begin with @Internet Nomad

It’s nice to be home again

 

[Keep it a boqol]

loool some fuckery just happened with one of my closest friends turning ex Muslim and smashing a bunch of girls + treating the ones who didn’t want his nasty dick like shit.

This is like the second “sign” I’ve gotten this year to be Muslim again I’ll probably consider it atp cuz this hit a little too close to home

I’ll look past the Aisha stuff & stay away from delusional Hanbali Wahhabis who made me start doubting this religion to begin with @Internet Nomad

It’s nice to be home again

my nigga wth is that DP

 

[Yami]

my nigga wth is that DP

 

[Sigmundd]

I would rather go inside a burning building than leave the deen. That is just humanly impossible with me. I am 100 percent certain Islam is the truth. More than the word certain.

 

[Internet Nomad]

loool some fuckery just happened with one of my closest friends turning ex Muslim and smashing a bunch of girls + treating the ones who didn’t want his nasty dick like shit.

This is like the second “sign” I’ve gotten this year to be Muslim again I’ll probably consider it atp cuz this hit a little too close to home

I’ll look past the Aisha stuff & stay away from delusional Hanbali Wahhabis who made me start doubting this religion to begin with @Internet Nomad

It’s nice to be home again

Welcome back saxib.

Hedonism is a two face beast it gives the allure of freedom but all it wants is to waste your life energy. its not freedom to be enslaved by your desires but instead to control them is where true freedom lies.

Aisha stuff is a hardpill to swallow but it doesn’t negate the deen. At most its a culture shock to our standards compared to how they were living back then.

 

[Yami]

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Welcome back saxib.

Hedonism is a two face beast it gives the allure of freedom but all it wants is to waste your life energy. its not freedom to be enslaved by your desires but instead to control them is where true freedom lies.

Aisha stuff is a hardpill to swallow but it doesn’t negate the deen. At most its a culture shock to our standards compared to how they were living back then.

Appreciate it dawg. I’ll make a thread about the friend thing soon because 1) it’s pretty crazy & 2) I need an outlet

 

[JustSomeGuy]

What is there to be “shameful” of? This is something I don’t understand about you Muslims. If you want to feel ashamed look at Al-shabab burning down buildings and bombing down hospitals. Look at the Middle East in general or most Muslim worlds. You people destroyed Somalia with your extreme ideologies. If you guys behaved yourself and fixed your country most of us wouldn’t have left Islam. Because of you guys destroying Somalia and producing Al-shababs. Our parents forced us to flee to a western world. We are a product of our environments it’s human nature. Most of us westerners are influenced in the western worlds. I decided to leave because it’s a personal decision I made.

Most of us that left the faith have made their decisions. We’re adults living in a free world country where we can decide for ourselves. If you want to feel ashamed look at Muslim countries that destroyed theirs and put our parents here. You guys are the one that should be ashamed. So shame on you.

I agree with you but the civil war had nothing to do with Islam. But still I feel bad for minorities living in Muslim countries. It’s the same story in every Muslim country, minorities are oppressed and persecuted. Always at risk of some random Muslim mob coming down to their neighbourhood and burning down their houses, places of worship or just straight up killing them. It’s sad.

And why should we be ashamed? This isn’t Somalia, Muslims cannot control or intimidate us into silence. They can’t even handle a non-Muslim stating their opinion. I really don’t understand how this Muslim mindset survived all the way to the 21st century.