Is anyone here agnostic/atheist or non-religious?

[Galool]

And that's exactly why they stay quiet about their disbelief, because they'd be shamed by their family, friends and other Somalis

Instead of shaming, let people believe what they wanna believe, you can't have an ethnicity, all share one religion, its impossible.

They will continue to be shamed if not worse by the Somali community. They will continue to not exist in the real world and Somalis do not consider them Somali, it will not change.

Atheist/liberal efforts failed while it was the dominant and overwhelming power in the world.

As I said, now that its power is failing it will only get worse for it and their slaves (those who adopted this religion) from here on out.

 

[Internet Nomad]

Probably not. Cultural shaming would still be a thing that holds that shit back. Just look at East Asia majority are athiests but still hold on to Confucian values on relationships.

Children born out of wedlock are highly stigmatized in South Korea & authority of elders is very strong in Japan.

While your correct about out of wedlock stigma you gotta admit Confucian regions of the world, such as China, Singapore, Korea, Vietnam, and Japan, now have the lowest fertility rates compared to other first world nations. Of the top 5 lowest fertility rates in the world 4 of them were Confucian in origin.

Also these countries also have degeneracy issues its just not out in the open as their governments are more authoritarian about it but it still exists.

 

[Omar del Sur]

I watch Hassan Radwan he has the best content he used to be a Sheikh in the UK

I'm not watching that. I am satisfied with Islam as my religion and I know very well that this man is astray.

 

[Nin123]

@Khanderson
@JustSomeGuy
@Dalac Bilaash
@MG13
@SWorld
@DR OSMAN
@KinsiHilaac

are all certified members of Reer Murtad.

What about you Ms doja?

 

[Nin123]

@Galool

Come look at this gaalo convention they're having in here, mate. This is what liberal anti-Islam atheists actually look like, so I'd really appreciate it if you stopped chasing me down thread-to-thread with your baseless accusations of me being an atheist who's infiltrated this website to convert other Somalis outta the diin, cheers.

Most of your thread looks anti Islamic so I don’t blame him for thinking you are an atheist.

 

[Omar del Sur]

In billions of years anything can happen. Do you deny evolution because it’s a proven scientific fact.

Evolution is not proven, scientific or a fact. Darwinism is kufr.

 

[Nin123]

I'm agnostic

Biggest dayouth son of a B hell fire will be your new home inshallah

 

[Keep it a boqol]

In billions of years anything can happen. Do you deny evolution because it’s a proven scientific fact.

Something can’t come from nothing homo.

If i have a bunch of water if i wait a trillion billion years it won’t turn into an iphone, cheesecake let alone a human being

it’s not a proven fact it’s a theory.

You actually left islam due to the humans monkey evolution meme i feel sorry for you

 

[Midas]

Yeah, that's why I think discussions and debates between atheists and Muslims are mostly pointless, since neither side will ever be satisfied.

The atheist side will always ask for empirical evidence, while religious believers will rely on faith, religious texts, or spiritual and metaphysical insights.

I think you have somewhat misunderstood what I'm saying. There is plenty of empirical evidence. But that will never be enough to convince a person if they don't have faith. Since at the end of the day that final step is to take a leap of faith. Or how else how would this world be a test from God if it was some simple math equation.

On some level I pity you guys . It's like if I saw a person cut out their eyes and they tell that it didn't affect how they saw the world or understood reality.

 

[Nass010]

What is there to be “shameful” of? This is something I don’t understand about you Muslims. If you want to feel ashamed look at Al-shabab burning down buildings and bombing down hospitals. Look at the Middle East in general or most Muslim worlds. You people destroyed Somalia with your extreme ideologies. If you guys behaved yourself and fixed your country most of us wouldn’t have left Islam. Because of you guys destroying Somalia and producing Al-shababs. Our parents forced us to flee to a western world. We are a product of our environments it’s human nature. Most of us westerners are influenced in the western worlds. I decided to leave because it’s a personal decision I made.

Most of us that left the faith have made their decisions. We’re adults living in a free world country where we can decide for ourselves. If you want to feel ashamed look at Muslim countries that destroyed theirs and put our parents here. You guys are the one that should be ashamed. So shame on you.

Al shabaab was the outcome of the killing of the moderate wing of ICU by ethiopia aided by the west

 

[Do]

(Context) Talking about Nabi Muhammad (SAW) btw

“Just face it, bro, if you take the Sahih narration that he consummated the marriage when she was nine to be irrefutable, then that means he violated a child's body.” ~ DojaKhat

Now, you know damn well that isn't the full context...

I don't know why danyeers on this website confidently misquote others with the intent of defaming them, as if posts on here aren't permanent. First, that weird UK Xalimo having one-sided beef with me who claimed I was depressed in real life with a misleading screenshot and now you?



I was having trouble understanding the argument for Aisha (RA) being physically mature for sexual intercourse as she was 9 years old at the time of consummation. IIRC, you were telling me that she had a body mature enough to withstand it and I rejected it, based on the fact that the human anatomy/physiology hasn't dramatically evolved enough for him to do it with her without her body being harmed in some way.

In short, my issue was not with the character of Nabi Muhammad (SAW) but with the logic of the argument 'She was mature for her age, on a biological level'. I didn't understand it, and wanted to push for a rational explanation for you. But you started tweaking out about me being a kafir before I could reach any understanding that day ffs

 

[Internet Nomad]

Now, you know damn well that isn't the full context...

I don't know why danyeers on this website confidently misquote others with the intent of defaming them, as if posts on here aren't permanent. First, that weird UK Xalimo having one-sided beef with me who claimed I was depressed in real life with a misleading screenshot and now you?



I was having trouble understanding the argument for Aisha (RA) being physically mature for sexual intercourse as she was 9 years old at the time of consummation. IIRC, you were telling me that she had a body mature enough to withstand it and I rejected it, based on the fact that the human anatomy/physiology hasn't dramatically evolved enough for him to do it with her without her body being harmed in some way.

In short, my issue was not with the character of Nabi Muhammad (SAW) but with the logic of the argument 'She was mature for her age, on a biological level'. I didn't understand it, and wanted to push for a rational explanation for you. But you started tweaking out about me being a kafir before I could reach any understanding that day ffs

If you still have some doubts here are two videos you can watch.

An excellent paper on this too

Understanding Aisha’s Age: An Interdisciplinary Approach | Yaqeen Institute for Islamic Research

This paper elucidates the flawed nature of accusations of the Prophet’s alleged immorality as well as how Islam teaches us to adapt the message of the Qur’an to changing circumstances.

yaqeeninstitute.org

Dont worry having doubts about this it isn’t kufr it was a bitter pill to swallow at first but when you learn more about the context it becomes much more understandable.

 

[SYll1738]

A lot of Somalis were like that in my high school throughout 2019-2022. Many Somalis drank but would celebrate Eid and fast for Ramadan. At some point, being culturally Muslim will also be a thing in Europe and North America.

I don’t know about drinking but weed is popular. I feel like pork and Alcohol are kinda in the same category for even the people I’ve met who aren’t religious. (North America)

 

[Northern Swordsman]

I don't know, I'm still figuring out. I consider myself Agnostic not Atheist, I still believe there's a creator

Just because you're raised without practising the religion, that shouldn't make you a irreligious.

If you consider yourself agnostic, do you identify with Muslims? Do you acknowledge that there must be a creator?

It's sad and unfortunate that your parents didn't fulfill their job as Muslim parents but. You're capable to find the truth, because Allah guides who he wants.

If you're serious about the religion and not one of those 'wa iska baashala' weirdos on this site then I hope you'll find your way back to islam.

 

[Dharbash]

We have actual low iq retards in this forum

 

[error1]

We have actual low iq retards in this forum

How?

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

i fully believe in islam I believe in 1 god and that prophet muhammed is last messenger Thats it.

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

I think a considerable amount of non muslims on this forum are not genuine, its a psyops to normalize it.

 

[Jiron]

I love being muslim, may allah guide all of us

 

[Sharab]

They just keep on coming


site had barely any exMuslims 2 years ago