Is anyone here agnostic/atheist or non-religious?

[al-Mu'tamid المعتمد]

Trust me bro just 5 more pages and all the ex-muslims will become devout muslims. I have seen it before once in a dream.

it also takes them 5 pages of nietzsche for them to revert to murtadiyyah lifestyle. some people are easily swayed.

 

[Soul Kaizer]

it also takes them 5 pages of nietzsche for them to revert to murtadiyyah lifestyle. some people are easily swayed.

Ngl everything I learned about nietzsche made me cling onto islam stronger because i saw what was the logical conclusion of atheism.

I even came to the conclusion even if i didn’t believe in islam its far more beneficial to follow a lifestyle that strongly resembles islam.

 

[Khanderson]

If islam left Somalia today and we all became secular in 30-40 years we would hear stories of STD, Drugs, Fatherlessness and LGBT skyrocketing.

We wouldn’t become Stockholm by the end of the weekend we would turn into a Brazilian favela and you know it.

They can run around and make arguments against islam but they know the dark truth.

You know what’s funny? Somalia is the worst country on earth. With the majority of Muslims. They still eat Khat, abandons their kids and get fights in the cafes.

If Somalis did became secular we wouldn’t have: Al-Shabab, FGM, Wahhabism, elderly marrying kids and sexism.

Instead what we would have is: abolishing the 4.5 system, getting rid of Al-shababs, open critical thinking in the Somali world, no backbit and full on individualism. We be compatible.

However that doesn't mean I want Islam out of Somalia because people have the rights to practice their faiths. However Islam should stay out of governments just like any religion. No good comes out of that.

 

[Soul Kaizer]

You know what’s funny? Somalia is the worst country on earth. With the majority of Muslims. They still eat Khat, abandons their kids and get fights in the cafes.

If Somalis did became secular we wouldn’t have: Al-Shabab, FGM, Wahhabism, elderly marrying kids and sexism.

Instead what we would have is: abolishing the 4.5 system, getting rid of Al-shababs, open critical thinking in the Somali world, no backbit and full on individualism. We be compatible.

However that doesn't mean I want Islam out of Somalia because have the rights to practice their faiths. Islam should stay out of governments just like any religion. No good come out of that.

Most of those issues you highlighted isn’t an islam issue but people who have skewed the understanding of islam.

The issues I proposed is one of godlessness and therefore hedonism.

 

[Soul Kaizer]

Im dropping out of this thread I tried my best to give you good arguments for islam. But I cannot guide you as Allah is the only one who can guide.

To all the other muslims who are fighting against the lies may Allah(SWT) reward you.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

You still have to explain who created Allah? Do you just believe that he wasn’t created? Maybe he’s lying. The problem is you can’t confirm any of these statements.

lmao what a gay question thats like saying how many days are in a week? is it yes or no?

it was allah and there was nothing. He is the First (nothing is before Him) and the Last (nothing is after Him).

Now it’s just a matter of time before you degenerates start taking it up the ass or chopping of your nuts since you literally have no guidance or moral compass until you submit to allah

 

[al-Mu'tamid المعتمد]

Ngl everything I learned about nietzsche made me cling onto islam stronger because i saw what was the logical conclusion of atheism.

I even came to the conclusion even if i didn’t believe in islam its far more beneficial to follow a lifestyle that strongly resembles islam.

Ka’b reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The parable of the believer is that of a tender plant. The wind sways it at times, and it returns to balance at times. The parable of the hypocrite is that of a cedar tree. It continues to be rigid until it is suddenly uprooted in a single moment.”

 

[Killamenace78]

"seeking Allah finding Jehovah" kulaha.... I'm not even listening to this guy in the first place to refute him... I think this guy looks like he does drugs, I don't care what he has to say

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I watch Hassan Radwan he has the best content he used to be a Sheikh in the UK

 

[error1]

I'm actually shocked at how many apostates are commenting but worse of all... are being open with their disbelief wtf?

Atleast be shameful and keep it to yourself and know how Somali and Muslim identity is linked.

I thought this place was actually calm but it seems like Liberalinimo has started to pollute here aswell.

I would gladly take Meg Thee Stallion appreciation threads over these apostate posts.

Being Somali and being Muslim isnt a must, there are Somali Christians, Jews etc, I can be open about my beliefs, but don't say being Somali and being Muslim is tied together, it isn't.

 

[Midas]

Faith doesn't come from rationalization or fine tuning arguments. It's a matter of spirituality. Talking to people who don't belive in Allah is like talking to a person who is color blind they fundamentally can't see the world the way you do. People who have taste the spiritual truths of islam will never leave it.

 

[error1]

Never opened quran? And im supposes to believe you are somali with a religious dad

Well my dad is religious, i see him pray at the masjid, last time I was there was when I was a kid.

But I don't see my dad during the mornings cause he doesn't live with us.

I think I've opened the Quran before lol, just never memorized any of it.

 

[error1]

Are you even Somali???
Because which Somali has never open the Quran at least once in their life?
Even the least religious Somalis has read the quran and prayed a few times in their lives.

I might've been over exaggerating, yes I've most likely opened the Quran but I haven't properly prayed at a masjid since I was a child

And yes I'm Somali lol

 

[error1]

Because they are actually rare and the few that do exist hide it or are cut off completely and live out their degenerate lives amongst foreigners.

Somalis do not accept murtads and kafirs and do not even view them as Somali.

That is why the unnatural amount anonymous online is suspicious. We do not know if they are Somali at all or were ever Muslim to begin with.

And that's exactly why they stay quiet about their disbelief, because they'd be shamed by their family, friends and other Somalis

Instead of shaming, let people believe what they wanna believe, you can't have an ethnicity, all share one religion, its impossible.

 

[Heavy Mountains]

Faith doesn't come from rationalization or fine tuning arguments. It's a matter of spirituality. Talking to people who don't belive in Allah is like talking to a person who is color blind they fundamentally can't see the world the way you do. People who have taste the spiritual truths of islam will never leave it.

Yeah, that's why I think discussions and debates between atheists and Muslims are mostly pointless, since neither side will ever be satisfied.

The atheist side will always ask for empirical evidence, while religious believers will rely on faith, religious texts, or spiritual and metaphysical insights.

 

[yyuusro]

You niggas that fully read the Quran wasted your time @Dalac Bilaash @Khanderson @Killamenace78


I knew I didn't care about the Deen when I started going to duqsi as a kid. Waking up at 8:00 a.m. on Saturday morning was my breaking point. During that time period I didn't have cable as a kid. So the best cartoons I was able to watch only came on on Saturday morning. The only thing good about the weekends was the fact I got to hang out with my cousins after duqsi.

I barely cared about memorizing my surahs. I was stuck on the third juz for two years and than had to start all over once I got a new macaalin.

During Ramadan my mom would become a lot more strict by trying to force me and my younger siblings to practice more. I attempted to read the Quran a few times during Ramadan. Every time I try to read a translated version of the Quran I got bored quick. By the time I turned 16 I refused to stay home during Ramadan. I started working summer jobs and volunteering just so I wouldn't have to deal with my mom. I couldn't even play video games peacefully during that month.

so you left because you didn't want to wake up at 8.00am? that's so real

 

[yyuusro]

Drinking is such an odd experience even the most minor of alcoholic stubnaced like wine made me feel light headed after 2 sips. Mali genes can’t handle it

Pepporoni tastes aight but there’s really not much difference between it and the halal versions made with beef. East Asian pork though is ham

i couldn't handle pork after accidently eating it i knew this shit was haram for reason its fking disgusting

 

[error1]

i couldn't handle pork after accidently eating it i knew this shit was haram for reason its fking disgusting

I've probably eaten it by accident too lol,

 

[Galool]

Somalis are collective in nature and backbite all the time. If you do things that’s out of the norm they’ll talk about you everyday instead of minding their own business. I do believe they’re Somalis who left islam in Somalia but that would put their lives in jeopardy since Somalia have al-shabab sympathisers. Is a dead end it’s what I’m saying.

Somalis in the diaspora have the chances of coming out but still wants to retain connections with their parents. Gen z are gonna change the game. Give it some generations and announcing leaving Islam is gonna be like walking at the park.

Truth of the matter is Somalia and Somalis have become more religious over time. Look at Somalia a couple decades ago and then now.

People have been saying Muslims in the diaspora would leave Islam and assimilate for a century but most studies show the children become more religious than their parents and Islam has been growing even among the natives.

Muslim efforts in refuting/combatting atheism and liberalism has even resulted in the decline of these things in its strongholds and the growth of a return to religion/traditionalism for those paying attention.

That is why famous champions of "atheism and liberalism" richard dawkins and hersi ali, really just zionist plants, are now pretending to be Christians. And the more mainstream popular social media figures like Andrew Tate and Sneako publicly embracing Islam.

The project has utterly failed and we are well past the height of and dominance of it, things only get worse for your kind from here on out.

 

[Lightshow]

Agnostics, atheists and materialists have to be the dumbest humans of history. But this is the dark ages, or Kali yuga. So it does not surprise me.

 

[Yami]

If islam left Somalia today and we all became secular in 30-40 years we would hear stories of STD, Drugs, Fatherlessness and LGBT skyrocketing.

We wouldn’t become Stockholm by the end of the weekend we would turn into a Brazilian favela and you know it.

They can run around and make arguments against islam but they know the dark truth.

Probably not. Cultural shaming would still be a thing that holds that shit back. Just look at East Asia majority are athiests but still hold on to Confucian values on relationships.

Children born out of wedlock are highly stigmatized in South Korea & authority of elders is very strong in Japan.