OPINION Is it a good idea to marry someone who has already been married before with a child?

[dr.leorio]

Both of you guys are wrong, the first blames it on the woman and the second on the man, how are you going to argue against someone using the same reasoning? you people lack self awareness

We are living during the end times sxb. Most people forget the advent of Dajjal is just around the corner and the world is a mess. And we all know who the greatest followers of Dajjal and his modern western civilization is. Women. I'm not blaming women or catering to them, I just see reality for objectively what it is and I have the balls to accept it. Right now, marrying a westernizen Hijabi is rolling the dice, let alone a single mother. Single mothers come with too many problems and not only that, you'll be playing step daddying to another mans seed. Thats charity on a whole different level.

You have to understand the value of a woman. And a woman who has kids will never be on the same level as one who doesn't. And if I'm an as*hole for being blunt and stating the obvious then so be it.

Also, comparing modern day men and women to the Prophet and his wives is beyond ludicrous. We are living in a completely different environment. And that requires a different perspective on reality.

By all means, ignore the facts and marry single mothers if you want. I just know if you do, you probably didn't have a lot of options from the jump. Lol

 

[gbrlax3]

We are living during the end times sxb. Most people forget the advent of Dajjal is just around the corner and the world is a mess. And we all know who the greatest followers of Dajjal and his modern western civilization is. Women. I'm not blaming women or catering to them, I just see reality for objectively what it is and I have the balls to accept it. Right now, marrying a westernizen Hijabi is rolling the dice, let alone a single mother. Single mothers come with too many problems and not only that, you'll be playing step daddying to another mans seed. Thats charity on a whole different level.

You have to understand the value of a woman. And a woman who has kids will never be on the same level as one who doesn't. And if I'm an as*hole for being blunt and stating the obvious then so be it.

Also, comparing modern day men and women to the Prophet and his wives is beyond ludicrous. We are living in a completely different environment. And that requires a different perspective on reality.

By all means, ignore the facts and marry single mothers if you want. I just know if you do, you probably didn't have a lot of options from the jump. Lol

bruh yall need to stop blaming women everysingle time lol

 

[Angelina]

bruh yall need to stop blaming women everysingle time lol

He is too much of sexist nacaas who lacks self awareness. I bet this guy has lots of positive things to say about single dads though.

I mean he even used hadith without context to bash women to suggest that we are all irreligious or that there is something wrong with women in general.

 

[gbrlax3]

I mean he even used hadith without context to bash women to suggest that we are all irreligious.

hmm than why does my mum pray 5 times a day

 

[gbrlax3]

in my defence women should be women and men should be men. why hate each other when Allah created us for EACHOTHER ?

 

[adventurequestworlds1.0.2]

@Angelina

The prophet's case is unique. Khadija was a special person and so was the prophet. So unless the wife someone is marrying is khadija and you're the prophet you're indeed a beta. Besides if we are talking about the deen the prophet explicitly mentioned that one shouldn't marry a widow but a virgin (preferably). Here's the hadith.

"Jabir b. 'Abdullah (Allah be pleased with them) reported: I married a woman during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (may peace be. upon him). I met the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him), whereupon he said: Jabir, have you married? I said: Yes. He said: A virgin or one previously marrried? I said: With due previously married, whereupon he said: Why did you not marry a virgin with whom you could sport? "

فقد جاء في الحديث عن جابر بن عبد الله قوله: (قال لي رسولُ اللهِ صلَّى اللَّهُ علَيهِ وسلَّمَ أتزوَّجتَ قلتُ نعَم قال بِكرًا أم ثيِّبًا فقُلتُ ثيِّبًا قالَ أفلا بِكرٌ تلاعبُها وتلاعبُكَ)


Another hadith:
"It was narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Marry the one who is fertile and loving, for I will be proud of your great number before the nations on the Day of Resurrection"

قول النبي ﷺ: «تزوجوا الوَدُودَ الولودَ فإني مكاثرٌ بكم الأمم يوم القيامة»

Another one:
عن عطاء عن النبي - صلى الله عليه وسلم - أنه قال: «عليكم بالأبكار، فإنهن أعذب أفواها وأنقى أرحاما»
Basic translation since i didn't find english version: Marry virgin girls because their talk is sweeter and their wombs are more fertile.

So Islamically the prophet s.a.w told men to marry a virgin who can give birth to a lot of children. it's preferable islamically unless someone has a special reason, if there isn't one i'm sad to say but he is a beta and should get himself a young wife. And we will call him what he is, and warn other young people to marry younger wives and not widows. You being angry and a single mum or wanting a young man for one of your single mums habaryars won't make him any less of a beta. Widows are a bigger problem and the marriage most of the time doesn't last that long. And it's not wise for a young man to get himself in that sort of trouble. If he does he is not really smart and a beta because he settled with a wife who married younger got kids from another man, divorced him and now he will take care of that man's kids he won't have a wife at her prime. He won't experience what it's like to be newly wed couple who never married before. He is a beta for settlign for that. A BETA!

the hadith u posted I think nabi mohamed meant tht advice for virgin men or mens tht didn't marry woman nor commit zina to marry virgin woman like them I think

 

[Juke]

Firstly, Maria was a concubine.

Yes, there's hadiths by al-Tabari and tafsir by Ibn Kathir that say the prophet married freed her and married after giving birth to Ibrahim.

“God granted Rayhanah bt. Zayd of the Banu Qurayzah to his Messenger. Mariyah the Copt was presented to the Messenger of God, given to him by al-Muqawqis, the ruler of Alexandria, and she gave birth to the Messenger of God’s son Ibrahim. THESE WERE THE MESSENGER OF GOD’S WIVES, six of them were from the Quraysh.” (Tabari volume 9, page 137)

"Maria al-Qibtiyya (may Allah be pleased with her) is said to have married the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and certainly everyone gave her the same title of respect as the Prophet’s wives, ‘Umm al Muminin’ ‘Mother of the Believers‘..."

The Wives of the Prophet Muhammad - Chapter 12 - MARIA al-Qibtiyya

2ndly- Khadijah was indeed seen as a catch. The prophet s.a.w married her before Islam. He didn't marry her to make a 'point' like you tried to suggest.

When he returned to Makkah, Khadijah noticed, in her money, more profits and
blessings than she used to. Her hireling also told her of Muhammad’s good manners, honesty, deep thought, sincerity and faith. She realized that she homed at her target. Many prominent men had asked for her hand in marriage but she always spurned their advances.

He took on the undesirable instead of desiring a young, baddie like a normal man would.

You also suggested that he married them to reduce the stigma they faced. Where is your daleel? During that time period many of the Sahabas were marrying divorced and widowed women. It was mostly due to the fact that many of them were the daughters of tribal leaders, therefore the marriages converted whole tribes.

Lady, you're ridiculous. The stigma for widows and divorcees is salient throughout humanity from: Western European catholics wouldn't be able to remarry in the case of a death and not able to divorce, to Hindus widows who would set themselves on fire, to the Koreans who also didn't allow widows to remarry.

 

[Waaqmasho]

We are living during the end times sxb. Most people forget the advent of Dajjal is just around the corner and the world is a mess. And we all know who the greatest followers of Dajjal and his modern western civilization is. Women. I'm not blaming women or catering to them, I just see reality for objectively what it is and I have the balls to accept it. Right now, marrying a westernizen Hijabi is rolling the dice, let alone a single mother. Single mothers come with too many problems and not only that, you'll be playing step daddying to another mans seed. Thats charity on a whole different level.

You have to understand the value of a woman. And a woman who has kids will never be on the same level as one who doesn't. And if I'm an as*hole for being blunt and stating the obvious then so be it.

Also, comparing modern day men and women to the Prophet and his wives is beyond ludicrous. We are living in a completely different environment. And that requires a different perspective on reality.

By all means, ignore the facts and marry single mothers if you want. I just know if you do, you probably didn't have a lot of options from the jump. Lol

True facts spoken.

 

[Angelina]

Yes, there's hadiths by al-Tabari and tafsir by Ibn Kathir that say the prophet married freed her and married after giving birth to Ibrahim.

“God granted Rayhanah bt. Zayd of the Banu Qurayzah to his Messenger. Mariyah the Copt was presented to the Messenger of God, given to him by al-Muqawqis, the ruler of Alexandria, and she gave birth to the Messenger of God’s son Ibrahim. THESE WERE THE MESSENGER OF GOD’S WIVES, six of them were from the Quraysh.” (Tabari volume 9, page 137)

"Maria al-Qibtiyya (may Allah be pleased with her) is said to have married the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and certainly everyone gave her the same title of respect as the Prophet’s wives, ‘Umm al Muminin’ ‘Mother of the Believers‘..."

The Wives of the Prophet Muhammad - Chapter 12 - MARIA al-Qibtiyya

He took on the undesirable instead of desiring a young, baddie like a normal man would.



Lady, you're ridiculous. The stigma for widows and divorcees is salient throughout humanity from: Western European catholics wouldn't be able to remarry in the case of a death and not able to divorce, to Hindus widows who would set themselves on fire, to the Koreans who also didn't allow widows to remarry.

Last bit is a bit of a dumb comment considering Indian culture has always had extreme misogyny. Also, not all cultures are the same, they change and evolve. Some cultures are not accepting, whilst others are fine with it.

Where is your context for Western European catholics when even kings during the early Western Catholic period married widows!

Henry II of England- was not previously married but married Eleanor of Aquitaine. Married a woman a noblewoman with two kids! So did King Edward! Many noblemen did as well. I only know this shit because I had an obsession with medieval history due to certain shows and I decided to do research. But amongst the upper classes a young widow would be married off.

Yes, widows and divorces are seen as undesirable compared to virgins. There is no denying, but to act like ALL societies thought they were completely undesirable or that men only married them for pity is dumb. Plus, people had lower life expectancies so many widows weren't 25 yet!

Come on.

 

[Juke]

Last bit is a bit of a dumb comment considering Indian culture has always had extreme misogyny. Also, not all cultures are the same, they change and evolve.

Where is your context for Western European catholics when even kings during the early Western Catholic period married widows!

Henry II of England- was not previously married but married Eleanor of Aquitaine. Married a woman a noblewoman with two kids! So did King Edward! Many noblemen did as well.

I mean you asked for proof about stigma against widows and divorcees. I stand corrected in regards to catholic widows, it was just divorcees... "till death do us part"

Yes, widows and divorces are seen as undesirable compared to virgin. There is no denying, but to act like ALL societies thought they were completely undesirable or that men only married them for pity is dumb. Plus, people had lower life expectancies so many widows weren't 25 yet!

Come on.

That's all I said. A guy like Mohamed that had access to the best options chose undesriables which is a testament to his greatness, mercy, etc.

Have a nice day! I've got a work meeting

 

[so_wavey]

EVERYONE SHUT UP AND LISTEN. PBUH MARRIED WIDOW WOMEN. THAT ENOUGH SHOULD MAKE SENSE FOR US THAT ITS OK TO MARRY WOMEN THAT ARE DIVORCED



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no one never said its not ok to marry divorcees im saying its preferable to marry a virgin

 

[so_wavey]

I mean you asked for proof about stigma against widows and divorcees. I stand corrected in regards to catholic widows, it was just divorcees... "till death do us part"


That's all I said. A guy like Mohamed that had access to the best options chose undesriables which is a testament to his greatness, mercy, etc.

Have a nice day! I've got a work meeting

He also married Aisha who was very desriable and beautiful and a virgin and he loved her more then any of his other living wives