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I am confused about what you mean by this. Believe me, I have met salafs who literally believe the earth is flat because they take scriptures word for word. When you tell them the Islamic historical context of the tafsirs that state this. They turn their brains off and decide nope because ibn abbas was a close sahaba of the prophet and a cousin and his tafsir builds upon the earth is flat then nope we must believe that. Its madness.

What are you talking about. Salafis believe the earth is round.
 

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Was Sheikh Ibn Baz not a Salafi?


Consensus that the Earth is round



"Praise be to Allah.

More than one of the scholars have narrated that there is consensus that the Earth is round. For example:

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) narrated that from Abu’l-Husayn ibn al-Munaadi (may Allah have mercy on him), when he said:

Imam Abu’l-Husayn Ahmad ibn Ja‘far ibn al-Munaadi narrated from the prominent scholars who are well known for knowledge of reports and major works in religious sciences, from the second level of Ahmad’s companions, that there was no difference of opinion among the scholars that the sky is like a ball.

He said: Similarly they were unanimously agreed that the Earth, with all that is contains of land and sea is like a ball. He said: That is indicated by the fact that the sun, moon and stars do not rise and set over those who are in different parts of the earth at the same time; rather that occurs in the east before it occurs in the west.

End quote from Majmoo‘ al-Fataawa (25/195) "

You know people are in a weak position when they have to make stuff up to argue their case.
 

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@nagaamos why do you make the speech of the kuffar higher than the Quran. You literally disbelieve in hudud. You believe Allah is the most wise and the legislator yet Allah is unable to match western secularists.
 

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Another thing is I want the secularists to stop pretending they're smarter because they've been mentally colonized by white people. Being whitewashed doesn't make you smarter than anyone.
 
Interesting, I fully believe in the opinion that there's one true shariah. Islam is perfect but people aren't.
Islam says there's no racism, however today we see that Arabs tend to be the most racist of people.
I'll point out another hadith Where a man came to the prophet and asked him, if I pray, fast, pay zakah, go to hajj will I go to paradise.The prophet said yes.
My point being how are we discussing shariah law if some of these guys barely wake up for fair prayer? Priorities

It is one thing to believe that Sharia is the one true law and that it should be implemented, and to actually have the possibility to implement it. We do not have the authority to make it the state of law as of now, but still our belief must be that Allah has the sole right of establishing the law. This is a matter of belief and every muslim must adhere to it, even the one lacking in prayer! It is a central doctrine of Allah having the sovereignity in all aspects.

As a side note: the hadith has a little, but important, addition. The man included in the question, in addition to what you mentioned, "and I declare halaal whatever is halaal, and declare haraam whatever is haraam; will I go to Jannah". One has to believe what is haram to be haram. To believe that Sharia should not be implemented is Haram, thus leading the one opposing it to hell fire.
 

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they submit to the cadaans and seek to change the deen to suit their desires and yet they wonder why we make takfir
:williamswtf:
 

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I don't mean to be rude but I don't know how young you are. All jokes aside as someone who went down the salaf pathway when I was younger and lost in life. You will not find any intelligence or reason down this pathway only hate and a life devoid of anything with critical thinking. Allah gave you a mind and taking the fikrah of others and being a brain-dead zombie helps no one. Nothing worse than being a prisoner in your own mind.

Allah gave us a mind and therefore we need to agree with you and your white colonial overlords?

Allah gave me a mind and I'd rather believe in what Muslims for over 1,400 years have believed. I don't care about the so-called "enlightenment" ideas of Thomas Jefferson and European philosophers with powdered wigs.
 
They keep talking about "modern times" i want to know whats so different from the days of the ulemah of ahlul sunnah till now ?

If anything today is more backwards with the amount of homosexuals and liberal deviants in society who have no moral framework that just advocate for anything.
 
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If you need the deen to tell you to not rape someone then boy I can't even tell you anything else.
It wasnt long ago that people were eachothers property that they were raping with impunity, So yes its very possible we can sway to those extremes from our rationale.
 
@nagaamos does have a point.

why should sharia be implemented in countries like Egypt which has an upto 20% Christian population. why should Christians be forced to practice sharia if they aren't even Muslim just because the majority of Egypt is

Should Nigeria implement sharia just because the majority is Muslim (54:45). Even though it has a near 50% Christian population
 

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It’s not barbaric at all. People who defend criminals are barbaric. Imagine if chronic madow criminals had their hands cut or were stoned to death. The black community would be in much better shape

“Y’all umm...heard Tyrone was umm...stoned and shieet?...dayum! — Madow after his buddy gets stoned for gang activity
 
@nagaamos does have a point.

why should sharia be implemented in countries like Egypt which has an upto 20% Christian population. why should Christians be forced to practice sharia if they aren't even Muslim just because the majority of Egypt is

Should Nigeria implement sharia just because the majority is Muslim (54:45). Even though it has a near 50% Christian population
no no you don't understand I'm bowing down to my white overlords according to the salafs here. Who type from the comforts of their western privilege and wouldn't last 10 minutes in sharia implementation. These man are living in fantasy land and want to party like its 699.
 
It’s not barbaric at all. People who defend criminals are barbaric. Imagine if chronic madow criminals had their hands cut or were stoned to death. The black community would be in much better shape

I wish we had the sharia laws for theft in the west. My bro nearly got his wallet snatched. These streets are not safe.
 

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I wish we had the sharia laws for theft in the west. My bro nearly got his wallet snatched. These streets are not safe.
No you don’t understand me. My problem is with people complaining about it being “barbaric”. We’re not picking up random people off the street and stoning them. Why do they have a soft spot for degeneracy?
 
@nagaamos does have a point.

why should sharia be implemented in countries like Egypt which has an upto 20% Christian population. why should Christians be forced to practice sharia if they aren't even Muslim just because the majority of Egypt is

Should Nigeria implement sharia just because the majority is Muslim (54:45). Even though it has a near 50% Christian population
Not necessarily, they can practice their religion and eat their pork in peace, as long as they pay the Jizyah.
 

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I believe the idea of slow-changing if I rule Somalia I wouldn't start as an Islamic state but as secular then slowly change the laws while teaching people Islam and advance my country so I can defend the idea and don't turn into al Qaeda or isis radicals.

I will make a modern Islamic republic like Iran but with a Sunni idea
 
@nagaamos does have a point.

why should sharia be implemented in countries like Egypt which has an upto 20% Christian population. why should Christians be forced to practice sharia if they aren't even Muslim just because the majority of Egypt is

Should Nigeria implement sharia just because the majority is Muslim (54:45). Even though it has a near 50% Christian population
do you see how these niggas act already?

i don’t think nigeria even needs to implement sharia
 

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