Isaaq genocide narrative

[DR OSMAN]

@Itsnotthateasy

f*ck u id22r trying to redefine what a genocide legally means and it's the killing of an unarmed and non fighting force, when the hell do snm thugs and their helpers fit that criteria? Waryaa take your fuckin somali woke history to Villa somalia it's seen as rubbish by Darods.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Siad Barre both used and turned on the isaaq. He used isaaq officers and soldiers to fight the SSDF throughout 83-84, whilst using his own loyal MOD troops to xasuuq their kin in waqooyi.

pumped and dumped

 

[DR OSMAN]

What's next shabab and Isis claiming genocide to Americans lol as snm were no different, wallahi we allow wild shit to be taught in Somalia. If your armed and love fighting that's the consequence of war not genocide.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

@Itsnotthateasy

f*ck u id22r trying to redefine what a genocide legally means and it's the killing of an unarmed and non fighting force, when the hell do snm thugs and their helpers fit that criteria? Waryaa take your fuckin somali woke history to Villa somalia it's seen as rubbish by Darods.

Darood were the perpetrators so who cares? They can sit in their villages and wait for government to reach them.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Darood were the perpetrators so who cares? They can sit in their villages and wait for government to reach them.

Who launched the attack on SNA? it was your people who were lied to by your current lying leaders about your fictional nation, they just wanted power and made u fight for it. Noone was touching your ppl untill SNM came, waryaa we ain't maskin hags who u can sell your marqaan too.

 

[DR OSMAN]

This kid @Itsnotthateasy is just ranting and raving his snm mythologies while each point debunked and he responds with more ranting and raving like they do about their fictional nation it's exactly the same about SNM. That's why I hate debating Isaaq your debating their madness even after each point they raise is convincly shown to be false.

I am Darod u won't sell that shit to me

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Who launched the attack on SNA? it was your people who were lied to by your current lying leaders about your fictional nation, they just wanted power and made u fight for it. Noone was touching your ppl untill SNM came, waryaa we ain't maskin hags who u can sell your marqaan too.

This kid is just ranting and raving his snm mythologies while each point debunked and he responds with more ranting and raving like they do about their fictional nation it's exactly the same about SNM.

I am Darod u won't sell that shit to me

Here's the difference, Somalia is fiction that's why no one fights for it.
Somaliland is reality and the history is real and that's why we fight.
The proof is in the pudding.

You will believe sooner or later because you won't escape from it.

 

[TheLand]

It's timing is on the heels of an L for their project to dismantle Somaliland. So they reopen the case of the genocide, these fools are totally predictable at this point.

Already been dismantled, you've lost a huge chunk of territory and you have foreign troops from PL occupying you. Your 'army' is in complete tatters as well.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Already been dismantled, you've lost a huge chunk of territory and you have foreign troops from PL occupying you. Your 'army' is in complete tatters as well.

Nope not gonna do it

 

[DR OSMAN]

@TheLand

In Isaaqs minds and all irir clans they see me like this about my political idealogy. Yes your all right this is my political inspiration who created a state out of stateless vacuum and not only that adapted to the real world conditions facing Somalis post 91 not live in some delusional 1960 mindset.

 

[Arabsiyawi]

Can't be 'genocide' anyway cause you are talking about the same ethnic group. How do you even prove who the people that were killed were? Even dna wouldn't be able to prove that since it's all basically the same anyway. Maybe a new term such as 'qabiloside' is needed? Either way it's clearly massively overblown

Yoohoo, u got a real nice “GOTCHA!” moment right here.

 

[DR OSMAN]

The only mistake Abdullahi Yusuf did is accept Carta irirism 4.5 and accept Marehan threats to get more share then their worth in darod allocation. The other one is allowing sacad back into the g town, the other was creating Galmudug for them in Baraxley.

But in all fairness to him, the man wanted to change the chapter of his SSDF legacy and inspiring all the rebel movements and be remembered for something positive which he is like PL and the SFG in Mogadishu. Some say he had pressures facing him from terrorism and hagnimo and irirism and he needed to concede some areas in order get thru his legacy the positive side. In all fairness the harm he did by creating rebel movements and then cleaning up later will balance him to zero but zero is better then being in the negatives like other Somali leaders.

The hawiye are nothing like him, they boast in their failures and some even resort to playing the obstacle role on other clans because their clan is so fucked up in terms of leadership quality. They don't change the chapter either and leave behind nothing but looting Iyo dhuuso ambuulo.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@TheLand

Noone is ignoring Isaaq role but seriously grown adults and educated don't waste much time on them, their usually entertained by younger kids who lack experience. The reason is these dudes wanna go back to 1880 and 1960 period, their leaders didn't adapt to the conditions facing Somalia post 91.

That's kinda like Makhir or Majerteniya sultanate being revived including hobyo sultanate and arguing their union into the south or north was not thru popular will but thru violence in majerten case and sacking in makhir case unlike Isaaq union was thru popular will.

But we have rational leaders thank god who knew what we were facing post 90s and evolved and adjusted their political solution. Imagine warsangelis running around restoring makhir borders and Majertens running around attacking habar gedirs in hobyo and galgaduud when we know those borders don't exist anymore and we must face the reality we are in today.

Isaaqs are usually to the educated among us more for shit n giggles and comedy noone takes them serious for those above reason they really are majnuun.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

@TheLand

Noone is ignoring Isaaq role but seriously grown adults and educated don't waste much time on them, their usually entertained by younger kids who lack experience. The reason is these dudes wanna go back to 1880 and 1960 period, their leaders didn't adapt to the conditions facing Somalia post 91.

That's kinda like Makhir or Majerteniya sultanate being revived including hobyo sultanate and arguing their union into the south or north was not thru popular will but thru violence in majerten case and sacking in makhir case unlike Isaaq union was thru popular will.

But we have rational leaders thank god who knew what we were facing post 90s and evolved and adjusted their political solution. Imagine warsangelis running around restoring makhir borders and Majertens running around attacking habar gedirs in hobyo and galgaduud when we know those borders don't exist anymore and we must face the reality we are in today.

Isaaqs are usually to the educated among us more for shit n giggles and comedy noone takes them serious for those above reason they really are majnuun.

Somalia died more than thirty years ago when the cold war ended. Ancient history.

The confederation attempt just failed and all you have is a few garrison cities under African protection in a sea of extremists and warring clans. And even confederating those garrison cities failed.
There's no president, no constitution, no state, no federal member states.
Go listen to the UNSC situation report it's describing a pure fantasy but because it's an official organization people delude themselves.
These fantasies end when the money and the support is removed and all the reality becomes clear for all to see.
They use words like key stakeholders, broad based consensus, elections, - it would be funny if it wasn't a tragic situation.

To be fair the hype around oil and UNSC membership, fake elections will keep you entertained for a while yet until the bitter reality eventually emerges.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Heck imagine being a careless leader like Isaaq and Dhulbahantes were told to run around restoring darawish borders even in EYL, same with Makhir, same with Majerteniya and hobyo galgaduud and south mudug, imagine we had careless leaders who said go and do that, you think these isaaqs are any different infact their more credibility with darawish, mj, warsangeli since their mamul was forcefully sacked, unlike Isaaq which was the will of their ppl.

Hartigu waa dawlad sayid even said it @TekNiKo

Sade hates this show of force and loves to fuel division.

This is hawiye, Djibouti, sade and dir waqoyi when they see harti united