Islamic Somalia or secular Somalia?

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Aaegal

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they're so clueless. if they want to see what a non islamic somalia would look like they should look at the pagan tribes of east africa and see how well they're doing :duck:

What are you not getting? I don't care if people want to practice their religion. It just should not have anything to do with the government. Secularism does not equal pro atheism...
 
What are you not getting? I don't care if people want to practice their religion. It just should not have anything to do with the government. Secularism does not equal pro atheism...

the person I was quoting was directly responding to an idiot who thinks if we had never become muslim they're would be no problems so somali society (i.e the civil war) and that we would some how be some african superpower. right...
 

lol, I take it you have no factual rebuttal. You've realized that despite your atheism you haven't become one of the enlightened european countries you idolize. and that you're still from a poor african country surrounded by other poor african countries so it's only natural you feel that way.
 

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it's so pathetic to think all people who favour in of secularism because they don't want to see khat banned under Shariah laws. I've met a lot of people who chew khat is far more religious than people I know don't chew khat.

if we want shariah laws, by your logic let's say ban khat, technology, cigarettes, other things you name that is forbidden by Quran..
So you're against shariah law cause you don't want to see sodomy banned:susp:
 

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I think we need secular government, it's necessary to give all people an freedom of speech because this is a way they can develop Somalia fast as long as they keep any Islamic and clans out of the politics. Besides, we need to focus on the thing we need to improve Somalia's stability like security, law, crime, economy reform, educational, agriculture and hospital, the list going on. to make Somalia better place while being 100% Muslim country

If we have an Islamic government, it won't achieve anything, it won't help a woman, it won't help people who may have a different view, it won't help everyone come together. it would slow progress of Somalia's development
Man like sadam more like sodom Islamic clans kulaha:chrisfreshhah:
 
Religion should be abolished already. Especially for Somaliland as its fully mature and ready to join the most civilised nations of the world. Other Somalis who are still way too primitive will probably catch up in a century or 2 waaq willing. Off with religion I say
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Religion should be abolished already. Especially for Somaliland as its fully mature and ready to join the most civilised nations of the world. Other Somalis who are still way too primitive will probably catch up in a century or 2 waaq willing. Off with religion I say
:camby:
I think if somaliland adopted secular governance and most of its citizens became atheists it would guarantee them recognition from the international community as a sovereign country what say you?
 
Religion should be abolished already. Especially for Somaliland as its fully mature and ready to join the most civilised nations of the world. Other Somalis who are still way too primitive will probably catch up in a century or 2 waaq willing. Off with religion I say
:camby:

Guys we got a clown here, A CLOWN.... :russ::snoop:
 

Aaegal

I have no proof, only whispers
I think if somaliland adopted secular governance and most of its citizens became atheists it would guarantee them recognition from the international as a sovereign country what say you?

I don't know how many times I need to say this. Secular government does not equal an atheist population. It means a more progressive government, with sensible laws that evolve with the times.
 

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I don't know how many times I need to say this. Secular government does not equal an atheist population. It means a more progressive government, with sensible laws that evolve with the times.
There only two paths that of Allah and the rest call it what you will you can call it Darwinian for all I care its UnGodly:ufdup:
 
I think if somaliland adopted secular governance and most of its citizens became atheists it would guarantee them recognition from the international community as a sovereign country what say you?

I think so too. Instead the idiots have the shahada on their flag, courtesy of some beloved mujahids who designed the flag at about 5pm in the evening when the marqaan was at its peek. Understandably people get spiritual in these moods, but what have they been doing the subsequent 26 years:faysalwtf:
 
Secularism relies on a bunch of cultural foundations for it to be even implemented. I'm pessimistic that it is even achievable in Somalia considering its culture.

Somalis traditionally were never religious. Most of our ancestors probably didn't even go on hajj pilgrimage. We were like the Romans or Greeks, just very superstitious. We performed religious rights, not out of piety, but just to appease the spirits. It's only in the 20th century that Somalis started taking their religion more seriously and the 21st century where Arab-Israeli under the guise of Islam has infiltrated our society.
 
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