Islamic Somalia or secular Somalia?

[Prince Abubu]

Somalis traditionally were never religious. Most of our ancestors probably didn't even go on hajj pilgrimage. We were like the Romans or Greeks, just very superstitious. We performed religious rites, not out of piety, but just to appease the spirits. It's only in the 20th century that Somalis started taking their religion more seriously and the 21st century where Arabisation under the guise of Islam has infiltrated our society.

Wtf autocorrect.

 

[Safiya]

Did they lie tho damn i'm just trynna stroll around liido beach in bikini while xaliimo xaartooy can have her burka if she feels like it why is that so much to ask for nacala

 

[government]

Somalis traditionally were never religious. Most of our ancestors probably didn't even go on hajj pilgrimage. We were like the Romans or Greeks, just very superstitious. We performed religious rights, not out of piety, but just to appease the spirits. It's only in the 20th century that Somalis started taking their religion more seriously and the 21st century where Arab-Israeli under the guise of Islam has infiltrated our society.

What ancestors are you talking about Somalis weren't like Greeks and Romans we where religious but most of us didn't know anything about the religion then there used to be a sheikh in your qabill who you ask if there is something you don't know.
We used to have my 14th grandfather's book and it was all about Islam and where we came from etc etc

 

[government]

Did they lie tho damn i'm just trynna stroll around liido beach in bikini while xaliimo xaartooy can have her burka if she feels like it why is that so much to ask for nacala

Try to do That and see what will happen nobody is stopping you

 

[Safiya]

Try to do That and see what will happen nobody is stopping you

Lol do i look istubiddh to u Kenya or any other african country will do for now until Somalia is good again

 

[Prince Abubu]

What ancestors are you talking about Somalis weren't like Greeks and Romans we where religious but most of us didn't know anything about the religion then there used to be a sheikh in your qabill who you ask if there is something you don't know.
We used to have my 14th grandfather's book and it was all about Islam and where we came from etc etc

I'm not talking about a few Sufi sheikhs here and there. Even in my family there's gives times of fiqh, tafsir and haddith compiled and composed by sheikhs in my family. But those people were few and far between.

I'm talking about majority of Somalis pre-20th century who were illiterate nomadic geeljires who only paid lip-service to the religion.

 

[government]

I'm not talking about a few Sufi sheikhs here and there. Even in my family there's gives times of fiqh, tafsir and haddith compiled and composed by sheikhs in my family. But those people were few and far between.

I'm talking about majority of Somalis pre-20th century who were illiterate nomadic geeljires who only paid lip-service to the religion.

Yes I know but big cities have always been religious it's just that nomadic People anywhere not just in somalia know little about their religion

 

[Prince Abubu]

Yes I know but big cities have always been religious it's just that nomadic People anywhere not just in somalia know little about their religion

Nomadic Somalis comprised of most of the population.

 

[government]

Nomadic Somalis comprised of most of the population.

I know

 

[Apollo]

Somalia needs Cultural Marxism. Only way to make it a secular country.

The superstructure of Somali society must be destroyed, especially tribalism and religion.

 

[Prince Abubu]

Somalia needs securalism, strong emphasis on scientific knowledge and academic pursuit, and a strong family dynamic. Basically, we need a really modern and updated version of Confucianism.

 

[Apollo]

Somalia needs securalism, strong emphasis on scientific knowledge and academic pursuit, and a strong family dynamic. Basically, we need a really modern and updated version of Confucianism.

I absolutely hate Confucianism. It is one of the main reasons why China and East Asians in general are so unoriginal and consistently rely on Western innovation for progress.

 

[Prince Abubu]

I absolutely hate Confucianism. It is one of the main reasons why China and East Asians in general are so unoriginal and consistently rely on Western innovation for progress.

That's why added "strong emphasis on scientific learning". The problem is East Asians are too conformist. They are easy to rule once you've conquered them. It's why the Mongols, Manchus, Europeans and Japanese had an easy time controlling large parts of Asia so quickly.

Somalis have the complete opposite problem. We are so chaotic and disorderly, we don't even listen to our parents, muchless the State. We need a bit of Confucianism's rigidity and conformity otherwise we'll always be a stateless nation.

 

[SuldaanGuled]

Wale yaab waye

Waxaan ku dhi laha oroda cadanka adoomo uu noqoda ileen fai'aado kale aad laydahin majirto!!!

Inta maskaxda laga gumaystay bay isku moodhaan aqoonyahaan, aqoonyahan ku dishay !!! Kuwaan waxaa ka daraan kuwi talo ka qaato

This concept of separating diinta iyo dalka waa hadal gaalo, one that's alien to us why in the world should we accept it ? how can one support

separation of state and religion while at the same time support a "sunni state" which rules by shariah ? talk about contradictions.



#Doonimaynogaalnimo

#Doonimaynogumaysigacadanka

#Guushaanagaleh


Allow shaarka munaafiqinta iyo gaalada naga badbadi

Ameen Ameen Ameen

 

[Aaegal]

Wale yaab waye

Waxaan ku dhi laha oroda cadanka adoomo uu noqoda ileen fai'aado kale aad laydahin majirto!!!

Inta maskaxda laga gumaystay bay isku moodhaan aqoonyahaan, aqoonyahan ku dishay !!! Kuwaan waxaa ka daraan kuwi talo ka qaato

This concept of separating diinta iyo dalka waa hadal gaalo, one that's alien to us why in the world should we accept it ? how can one support

separation of state and religion while at the same time support a "sunni state" which rules by shariah ? talk about contradictions.



#Doonimaynogaalnimo

#Doonimaynogumaysigacadanka

#Guushaanagaleh


Allow shaarka munaafiqinta iyo gaalada naga badbadi

Ameen Ameen Ameen

I support separating church and state. I do not support a "sunni state" and ruling by shariah law. Keep religion on a personal level. Don't force people to be prosecuted under ancient laws. This is why I think Islam and all other religions are false. They are tools meant to keep people scared and controlled.

 

[Unionist]

Somalia will always be a Sithole until they become secular

 

[McLovin]

Did they lie tho damn i'm just trynna stroll around liido beach in bikini while xaliimo xaartooy can have her burka if she feels like it why is that so much to ask for nacala

I support your right and the right of every xaliimo to conduct autonomously from state religion

 

[SuldaanGuled]

I support separating church and state. I do not support a "sunni state" and ruling by shariah law. Keep religion on a personal level. Don't force people to be prosecuted under ancient laws. This is why I think Islam and all other religions are false. They are tools meant to keep people scared and controlled.

War ninyahow fikrada iyo waxyalaha aad aminsantahay meesha ka keentay kula noqo ileen war la aqbali karaha ma'aha. Umada soomaliyeed waa umaad muslim ah oo aminsan Alle, waxaa aad taagersantahay waa mabda'aa kasa horjeeda mid dadka soomaliyeed ay aminsanyahin yaad isku malaysa ninyahow ? who are you that we should take advice from ?


Say, "O disbelievers,

I do not worship what you worship.

Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.

Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.

Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.

For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."


The day you left your religion is the day your opinions stopped being of value esp when it comes to matters concerning how we muslims should govern ourselves.

 

[Aaegal]

War ninyahow fikrada iyo waxyalaha aad aminsantahay meesha ka keentay kula noqo ileen war la aqbali karaha ma'aha. Umada soomaliyeed waa umaad muslim ah oo aminsan Alle, waxaa aad taagersantahay waa mabda'aa kasa horjeeda mid dadka soomaliyeed ay aminsanyahin yaad isku malaysa ninyahow ? who are you that we should take advice from ?


Say, "O disbelievers,

I do not worship what you worship.

Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.

Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.

Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.

For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."


The day you left your religion is the day your opinions stopped being of value esp when it comes to matters concerning how we muslims should govern ourselves.

You're probably living in a western secular country, enjoying the freedoms provided to you, while using the non-Muslims technology. GTFO

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

No such thing as separating mosque from state in our religion. If you're against the shariah, hate it and wish to replace it because you think Allah doesn't fit in the modern times, then you've left Islam.