Isn't Djibouti apart of somalia?

[waraabe]

It is the separatists and Madow who are arguing not true Somalis

when did djabouti join Somalia?
as I remember correctly it was only Somaliland and Somalia that made the somali republic

 

[VixR]

Djibouti is not part of Somalia. But they are part of the Somali Nation. The Somali Nation does not recognize obsolete borders which have no bearing on reality.

Somaliweyn isn't the reality. There is no entity called the "Somali Nation", only Somali people and the lands they inhabit.

 

[VixR]

It is the separatists and Madow who are arguing not true Somalis

There's Madows on here? Arguing land politics?

 

[VixR]

Shut up woman

Wareeg. Run free.

 

[Geeljire]

Somaliweyn isn't the reality. There is no entity called the "Somali Nation", only Somali people and the lands they inhabit.

Who's reality exactly? The europeans? Certaintly not the Somali reality. In our reality there is a Greater Somali region.

Like the Jewish nation that is bigger than the Israeli state, the Somali nation too is much bigger than the Somali state (Somalia).

Djibouti is a linguistic vestige of colonialism, nested in the notion of divide and rule, which articulates a perception based on European terms of homogeneity. The notion of some invisible borders, which divides The North from the South, is rooted in imperialist designs, which in part assumes that artificial borders is an obstacle for Somali language, culture and Self determination. This imposed artificially created border hence confines Somali to the bottom of a European imposed location, which exists neither Historically,Economically nor Physically

Ethnically (Somali), Religiously (Islam), Politically (African Union, Arab league, UNESCO), Economically (IGAD) or physically (Somalia and Galbeed).The over emphasis on colonial borders which have no bearing on reality as a defining feature in Somali history is grossly misleading as cultures, trade, kinship and languages do not stop when they meet geographic hand drawn lines . Thus Djibouti is another divisive vestige of colonial domination which balkanized the Somali Nation.

 

[VixR]

I want you to be part of me

No such thing. Only in the land of puzzle pieces.

 

[Freebandz]

Wareeg. Run free.

Are you from djbooty.

 

[Canuck]

listen away from politicial agenda, the Djibouti people considered Djibouti part of Somalia. Watch this video junbox who djboutian but identities himself as Somali.

 

[waraabe]

listen away from politicial agenda, the Djibouti people considered Djibouti part of Somalia. Watch this video junbox who djboutian but identities himself as Somali.

are you retarded horta. if you are tell us so we don't make fun of you.

race and country are two different things

 

[Canuck]

are you retarded horta. if you are tell us so we don't make fun of you.

race and country are two different things

no you are the retard man who so is sure that his mum never had FGM, which make me wonder how did you know? Now never mention again you sick incestous

creepy animal.

 

[waraabe]

no you are the retard man who so is sure that his mum never had FGM, which make me wonder how did you know? Now never mention again you sick incestous View attachment 5035 creepy animal.

i call out your stupidity and you resorted to talking about my mother again. kkkkkkkkkk

 

[Canuck]

i call out your stupidity and you resorted to talking about my mother again. kkkkkkkkkk

Go and find job welfare loser bum and never mention me again

 

[VixR]

Who's reality exactly? The europeans? Certaintly not the Somali reality. In our reality there is a Greater Somali region.

Like the Jewish nation that is bigger than the Israeli state, the Somali nation too is much bigger than the Somali state (Somalia).

Djibouti is a linguistic vestige of colonialism, nested in the notion of divide and rule, which articulates a perception based on European terms of homogeneity. The notion of some invisible borders, which divides The North from the South, is rooted in imperialist designs, which in part assumes that artificial borders is an obstacle for Somali language, culture and Self determination. This imposed artificially created border hence confines Somali to the bottom of a European imposed location, which exists neither Historically,Economically nor Physically

Ethnically (Somali), Religiously (Islam), Politically (African Union, Arab league, UNESCO), Economically (IGAD) or physically (Somalia and Galbeed).The over emphasis on colonial borders which have no bearing on reality as a defining feature in Somali history is grossly misleading as cultures, trade, kinship and languages do not stop when they meet geographic hand drawn lines . Thus Djibouti is another divisive vestige of colonial domination which balkanized the Somali Nation.

I meant in our current real-world situation. Well, that's an interesting view and an informative read, anyway. I doubt it holds much sway in Djibouti, tho.

 

[waraabe]

Go and find job welfare loser bum and never mention me again

You are a hoe

 

[Canuck]

You are a hoe

No the hoe is your mum and again how did you know that she is free FGM ? Spell the family dirty secrets

 

[waraabe]

No the hoe is your mum and again how did you know that she is free FGM ? Spell the family dirty secrets

I know you are crying about your fatness Naaya. insulting mothers is a big sign it is getting to you. I will keep fingering your insecurities

 

[Geeljire]

I meant in our current real-world situation. Well, that's an interesting view and an informative read, anyway. I doubt it holds much sway in Djibouti, tho.

That is what i was adressing colonial geographic hand drawn lines have no bearing in contemporary reality. As far as Djibouti is concerned the borders might as well be non-existent considering how physically,economically,politically,ethnically and culturally they are tied to other Somali regions.

I even posted an abstract from my wordfile enlisting why the borders really have no bearing on reality.

@HalyeeyQaran @Grant @King Dir @Rooble

Djibouti Obsolete Borders​

The Geographical Reality:
The borders have no bearing on the population distribution. Djibouti is populated by the Issa clan who lives also Awdal in Somalia as well as the Shinile Zone located in the Somali Region of Ethiopia. Entire families live on equal sides of the colonial carved out borders and going back and forth between these places. Which shows that the population living in Djibouti do not solely identify with that one single area but with two other regions (Somalia,Galbeed) which they are physically, culturally and ecomomically tied to.

The Economic reality:

Issa clan as stated share nummeral economical links with their family on opposite sides of the borders. Some through hagbad/ayuuto are heavily interdependent on eachother. Other methods are clan sholarship, inter clan financial schemes etc. By using the Somali remittance systems by sending eachother financial support through Hawalaad.

You can even mention how Djibouti is heavily trade-dependent on their Somali counterpart in the different regions of the Horn.
Read-------> https://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/files/chathamhouse/public/Research/Africa/0910majid.pdf


The Historical reality:

Reffendrums were held in djibouti wether it was to remain with France or to join the Somali Republic. Despite 100% of Somalis voted for the Union with Somali Republic, the refendrum was found to be rigged by the French authority, with the French expelling thousands of Somalis before the refrendrum reached the polls. The majority of those voted No was Somalis who were strongly in favor of joining their fellow Somali brothers and sisters lead by Maxamuud Xarbi the Vice President of the Government Council. The refrendum turned out in favor of the Europeans and the sizeable Afar community to stay with France.

Once the refrendrum reach the polls in face of all the tension, the Vice President gave the famous historical speech “We must achieve independence; we prefer death to life under the aegis of imperialism”.

This is telling because it shows that the existence of Djibouti is not a reflection of Somali self determination or the right by a Sovereign people decide their destiny. Rather it is an imposition by the french authorities. By accepting Djibouti as infinite entity we are accepting a destiny layed out by outsiders.

Conclusion:

Djibouti is a linguistic vestige of colonialism, nested in the notion of divide and rule, which articulates a perception based on European terms of homogeneity. The notion of some invisible borders, which divides The North from the South, is rooted in imperialist designs, which in part assumes that artificial borders is an obstacle for Somali language, culture and Self determination. This imposed artificially created border hence confines Somali to the bottom of a European imposed location, which exists neither Historically,Economically nor Physically.

Ethnically (Somali), Religiously (Islam), Politically (African Union, Arab league, UNESCO), Economically (IGAD) or physically (Somalia and Galbeed).The over emphasis on colonial borders which have no bearing on reality as a defining feature in Somali history is grossly misleading as cultures, trade, kinship and languages do not stop when they meet geographic hand drawn lines . Thus Djibouti is another divisive vestige of colonial domination which balkanized the Somali Nation.

 

[Jeesto]

Djibouti was never part of the so called "Somalia". It never was and maybe never will. The closest was during Adal/Ifat sultanates in what's now SL, Dj & OG but Somalia didn't exist back then, so no Djibouti isn't part of Somalia but Greater Somalia.

 

[Nabeel786]

D DjibouTi is part of Paris. Lol