JUST IN: MAXAMED CALI SAMATAR dead in Virginia

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Why say you this, merka?
He committed war crimes when he was defense minister and military commander during 1980's.
A seven year court battle that went all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court ended in a federal courtroom in Virginia on Thursday when former Somali Gen. Mohamed Ali Samantar admitted liability for war crimes and human rights abuses committed in the late 1980s, when he was the defense minister and commander of military forces in Somalia.

The case against Samantar was brought by former Somali citizens who were granted asylum in the U.S. They had suffered years of imprisonment, torture, rape and abduction — one even survived a firing squad under a pile of bodies. When they discovered that Samantar, their one-time tormentor, was living in the U.S. too, they sued him in federal court under the Torture Victim Protection Act, a law passed in 2006 to ensure that the U.S. would not be a safe haven for human rights abusers.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...omali-general-admits-liability-for-war-crimes
 

Hemaal

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The people who consider him a hero, what are your take on this ? can you defend against the accusation ?

This the guy who hired South African pilots to level hargeisa and burco. Not surprising some would defend him just like how Somali govt seeked immunity for his war crimes.
 
This the guy who hired South African pilots to level hargeisa and burco. Not surprising some would defend him just like how Somali govt seeked immunity for his war crimes.

AUN to the civil victims in those towns but it was fault of terrorists who attacked the country supported by Ethiopian government. The country was invaded by group of terrorists & spies backed by Ethiopia and crossed our borders from Ethiopia.
so the government should leave them occupy the country. However it was fault of SNM who used the civil as human Sheild.
 

Hemaal

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AUN to the civil victims in those towns but it was fault of terrorists who attacked the country supported by Ethiopian government. The country was invaded by group of terrorists & spies backed by Ethiopia and crossed our borders from Ethiopia.
so the government should leave them occupy the country. However it was fault of SNM who used the civil as human Sheild.

If your AUN is sincere, you wouldn't be praising a war criminal. It was Somalia's govt fault for trying to annihilate Isaaks of their lands but it backfired. U defending him and others is a testimony of how we remain far apart and remember there will never be anything to reconcile as long as you people praise war criminals. Alhamdulilaah for his death, God is the most just and he'll get what he deserve.
 
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If your AUN is sincere, you wouldn't be praising a war criminal. It was Somalia's govt fault for trying to annihilate Isaaks of theirs lands but it backfired. U defending him and others is a testimony of how we remain far apart and remember there will never be anything to reconcile as long as you people praise war criminals. Alhamdulilaah for his death, God is the most just and he'll get what he deserve.


Do not change the history, there was not annihilation process our country was more than enough for us ( 5 million at that time). Plus north was semi desert area and most tribes were busy in relocating to south(the rich area). SNM were militia who were trained in Ethiopia and got funded from Ethiopia to invade their country. Most of them were previous traitors who sold Somalia secrets to Ethiopia. SNM used the civil as human Sheild. It was their fault, they can not sugarcoat the truth. It was SNM ' fault from invading to using civil as human shield. Again AUN to civil people who were victims of SNM & Ethiopia.
 

waraabe

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If your AUN is sincere, you wouldn't be praising a war criminal. It was Somalia's govt fault for trying to annihilate Isaaks of their lands but it backfired. U defending him and others is a testimony of how we remain far apart and remember there will never be anything to reconcile as long as you people praise war criminals. Alhamdulilaah for his death, God is the most

I don't blame this guy for the actions of darod. He was simply following Orders. We know the darod leadership set out the policy to take out Isaaq not this madhibaan
 

Hemaal

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Do not change the history, there was not annihilation process our country was more than enough for us ( 5 million at that time). Plus north was semi desert area and most tribes were busy in relocating to south(the rich area). SNM were militia who were trained in Ethiopia and got funded from Ethiopia to invade their country. Most of them were previous traitors who sold Somalia secrets to Ethiopia. SNM used the civil as human Sheild. It was their fault, they can not sugarcoat the truth. It was SNM ' fault from invading to using civil as human shield. Again AUN to civil people who were victims of SNM & Ethiopia.

God, you have no shame. Tryin' so hard to shift the blame from your neo faqash regime.
 
God, you have no shame. Tryin' so hard to shift the blame from your neo faqash regime.


Shameless are those who support SNM & traitors like silanyo. Ex minister in Somali government who ran away to Ethiopia (not djbouti, Kenya) the same Ethiopia which was in state war with Somali government. Sold Somali government 's secrets to Ethiopia. Got camp, weapons, money and training from Ethiopia (which was in state of war with Somalia) then invaded Somalia from Ethiopia. Used the civil people in villages as human shield.
:faysalwtf: So Somalia should give them rose and flowers. Are you retard person? Group of traitors backed by Ethiopia invaded the country and crossed the borders from Ethiopia.
 

Grigori Rasputin

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I'm amazed at the disregard for common sense. Siyad Barre was a dictator. A dictator is someone who is unelected and who rules by force. This leads to hostility and always never ends in a good way. Just look at the end result manne. Somalia is fucked up real good. I swear it is a hell-hole where the world things of it as a cesspool garbage area but where we arrogantly think of ourselves as great.

This deceased individual was part and parcel of a regime that led to to the total annihilation of Somalia. If that regime was wise and unselfish it would have used wisdom to change course right around 1982. If it used wisdom it would've recognized that we were a clan based warring people in all of our history. We knew nothing of the nation state concept. We only knew our clan's little animal grazing land. It was only when the Whitemen came that we woke up to nationalism and statehood but it was out of necessity. Still we were deeply a clan based society and who only knew brutal fighting to settle our difference. In this climate and environment you bring a dictatorship. No wonder we fucking gone to the abyss.
 
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General Sisi, Jamel abdi Nasir, Sadat, Tunisia generals, Algeria is ruled by generals but those countries are doing better than us. Why? Because their opposition leaders never ran away and sold their secrets to their enemies. Algeria the government is responsible of death of 250,000 people, in Egypt the Muslim brotherhood fought for 80s and endured massacres but they never ran to Israel for training. You forgot one important things SNM and rest were traitors who were on paid role of Ethiopia.
 
When you ran to your country enemy Ethiopia (600 years) and sold your country secrets for cheap dirt. Then, let those traitors rule you. You expect your country to be next Sweden. SL, PL, JL and Somalia are ran by traitors.
 

Grigori Rasputin

Former Somali Minister of Mismanagement & Misinfo.
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Canuck! You know nothing of geopolitics ma'am. You wonder why the countries you mentioned's opposition are not running to Israel! Because Israel is the mind behind the dictatorships. They are all under the tutelage of Israel. Waar ileen tani wa neef daaqeysa
 
Shameless are those who support SNM & traitors like silanyo. Ex minister in Somali government who ran away to Ethiopia (not djbouti, Kenya) the same Ethiopia which was in state war with Somali government. Sold Somali government 's secrets to Ethiopia. Got camp, weapons, money and training from Ethiopia (which was in state of war with Somalia) then invaded Somalia from Ethiopia. Used the civil people in villages as human shield.
:faysalwtf: So Somalia should give them rose and flowers. Are you retard person? Group of traitors backed by Ethiopia invaded the country and crossed the borders from Ethiopia.

" Siad Barre and Mengistu held a second meeting in April 1988, at which they signed a peace agreement and formally reestablished diplomatic relations. Both leaders agreed to withdraw their troops from their mutual borders and to cease support for armed dissident groups trying to overthrow the respective governments in Addis Ababa and Mogadishu.

The peace accord failed to provide Siad Barre respite from guerrilla activity and probably contributed to his eventual demise. Anticipating the possibility of being expelled from Ethiopia, the SNM decided to relocate within Somalia itself, a decision that drastically changed the nature of the conflict in the north. Despite the termination of Ethiopian assistance, SNM guerrillas continued to defeat Siad Barre's forces with relative ease; by August 1988 they had captured Hargeysa and other northern towns. Siad Barre responded by ordering massive aerial bombing, carried out by foreign mercenary pilots, that damaged or destroyed virtually every building in Hargeysa. The brutal attack, which resulted in thousands of civilian casualties and brought both domestic and international opprobrium upon the Siad Barre regime, failed to crush the SNM. Fighting not only intensified in the north over the next eighteen months, but also spread throughout the country, forcing an estimated 800,000 Somalis to seek refuge in Ethiopia."

Ethiopia cut support to the SNM and the faqash took even more Ls. Go take your revisionist bullshit elsewhere. :camby:
 
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