JUST IN: MAXAMED CALI SAMATAR dead in Virginia

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BebsiBolice

Suicidal men adore me.
I'm amazed at the disregard for common sense. Siyad Barre was a dictator. A dictator is someone who is unelected and who rules by force. This leads to hostility and always never ends in a good way. Just look at the end result manne. Somalia is fucked up real good. I swear it is a hell-hole where the world things of it as a cesspool garbage area but where we arrogantly think of ourselves as great.

This deceased individual was part and parcel of a regime that led to to the total annihilation of Somalia. If that regime was wise and unselfish it would have used wisdom to change course right around 1982. If it used wisdom it would've recognized that we were a clan based warring people in all of our history. We knew nothing of the nation state concept. We only knew our clan's little animal grazing land. It was only when the Whitemen came that we woke up to nationalism and statehood but it was out of necessity. Still we were deeply a clan based society and who only knew brutal fighting to settle our difference. In this climate and environment you bring a dictatorship. No wonder we fucking gone to the abyss.

Can't believe I'm agreeing with you. Why can't you always be like this? Instead of a woman hating gremlin.
 
Canuck! You know nothing of geopolitics ma'am. You wonder why the countries you mentioned's opposition are not running to Israel! Because Israel is the mind behind the dictatorships. They are all under the tutelage of Israel. Waar ileen tani wa neef daaqeysa


I lived in those countries and went to their schools. Those generals in ME expect gulf countries fought Israel in 1948, 67, 74, 82, 2006. Plz they are dictators and corrupted but they never were puppets of Israel. The people in those countries love their countries.
 

Rooble

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" Siad Barre and Mengistu held a second meeting in April 1988, at which they signed a peace agreement and formally reestablished diplomatic relations. Both leaders agreed to withdraw their troops from their mutual borders and to cease support for armed dissident groups trying to overthrow the respective governments in Addis Ababa and Mogadishu.

The peace accord failed to provide Siad Barre respite from guerrilla activity and probably contributed to his eventual demise. Anticipating the possibility of being expelled from Ethiopia, the SNM decided to relocate within Somalia itself, a decision that drastically changed the nature of the conflict in the north. Despite the termination of Ethiopian assistance, SNM guerrillas continued to defeat Siad Barre's forces with relative ease; by August 1988 they had captured Hargeysa and other northern towns. Siad Barre responded by ordering massive aerial bombing, carried out by foreign mercenary pilots, that damaged or destroyed virtually every building in Hargeysa. The brutal attack, which resulted in thousands of civilian casualties and brought both domestic and international opprobrium upon the Siad Barre regime, failed to crush the SNM. Fighting not only intensified in the north over the next eighteen months, but also spread throughout the country, forcing an estimated 800,000 Somalis to seek refuge in Ethiopia."

Ethiopia cut support to the SNM and the faqash took even more Ls. Go take your revisionist bullshit elsewhere. :camby:
Ethiopian-Mengistu support continued till Mengistu was overthrown in 1991
 
Countries like Libya, Iraq, Syria who did like SNM and sold their countries to ( Israel) became like us. Do you see the similarity? Libya, Syria, Iraq are in deep shit. The result of running to the enemy of your country.
 

Rooble

Suldaanka Gobyare
VIP
Ethiopia was going through famine and internal conflict during the Somali Civil War. If there were any support it was minimal at best.
I view SNM in the same light I view Liyuu Police. Somalis high on Ethiopian steroids.
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" Siad Barre and Mengistu held a second meeting in April 1988, at which they signed a peace agreement and formally reestablished diplomatic relations. Both leaders agreed to withdraw their troops from their mutual borders and to cease support for armed dissident groups trying to overthrow the respective governments in Addis Ababa and Mogadishu.

The peace accord failed to provide Siad Barre respite from guerrilla activity and probably contributed to his eventual demise. Anticipating the possibility of being expelled from Ethiopia, the SNM decided to relocate within Somalia itself, a decision that drastically changed the nature of the conflict in the north. Despite the termination of Ethiopian assistance, SNM guerrillas continued to defeat Siad Barre's forces with relative ease; by August 1988 they had captured Hargeysa and other northern towns. Siad Barre responded by ordering massive aerial bombing, carried out by foreign mercenary pilots, that damaged or destroyed virtually every building in Hargeysa. The brutal attack, which resulted in thousands of civilian casualties and brought both domestic and international opprobrium upon the Siad Barre regime, failed to crush the SNM. Fighting not only intensified in the north over the next eighteen months, but also spread throughout the country, forcing an estimated 800,000 Somalis to seek refuge in Ethiopia."

Ethiopia cut support to the SNM and the faqash took even more Ls. Go take your revisionist bullshit elsewhere. :camby:


Rooble answered you, today Ethiopia is second poorest country in world but they are occupying us. They used to steal the aid money to give SNM
 
SNM were opposed to Barre for reasons unrelated to Ethiopia. Ethiopia simply took advantage of that in the way countries always do.

Selling your country ' secrets to Ethiopia (which was in state of war with Somalia) means one things SNM are traitors. Paid rats who invaded Somalia with the help of Ethiopia and used the civilian as human Sheild.
 

Rooble

Suldaanka Gobyare
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SNM were opposed to Barre for reasons unrelated to Ethiopia. Ethiopia simply took advantage of that in the way countries always do.
No the rebel faction took advantage of Ethiopia. Just like other many Somali rebel factions. I would do the same today if I had the chance, Somalinimo is as fake as Santa Claus. Don't get me wrong previous Somali regime had many clannist proportions too.
 

Rooble

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Selling your country ' secrets to Ethiopia (which was in state of war with Somalia) means one things SNM are traitors. Paid rats who invaded Somalia with the help of Ethiopia and used the civilian as human Sheild.
The government was clannist , you can't deny that. At the end of the regime things started spiraling downwards.
 

waraabe

Your superior
What are these secretes that Canuck keeps talking about?

Canuck is supporting her clan which the dictator was from and nothing is wrong with that but don't try to justify it differently.
 
No the rebel faction took advantage of Ethiopia. Just like other many Somali rebel factions. I would do the same today if I had the chance, Somalinimo is as fake as Santa Claus. Don't get me wrong previous Somali regime had many clannist proportions too.


No only rats that sell their country sorry @Rooble i like you but truth should be told. We are in this boat Somalia and there is not anywhere to run. Either we die together or live together your choice.
 
What are these secretes that Canuck keeps talking about?

Canuck is supporting her clan which the dictator was from and nothing is wrong with that but don't try to justify it differently.


Silanyo and rest of SNM were government ministers who ran country and sitted on government meeting and have access to government national secrets.
 
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