Kacaan propaganda

[Bahal]

ITT: people who don't understand geopolitics.

Do you not realize this is how the world works? Quid pro quo? If your litmus test for any sort of development is a wholly domestic based investment, nobody in the world can take any credit for anything.

Hurr durr you can't take credit for the good stuff, but we blame all the bad stuff on you.

 

[Bahal]

The situation we are in now doesn't justify the actions of that government. Only Berbera and Bosaso were build during the Kacaan and each had little economic significance, Bosaso finished during the collapse of the government. But for argument sake, lets say 95% of revenue came from ports, that alone should make you think.

It absolutely 100% does. If anything, the government should be blamed for failing to crush the rebellion.

What I meant is that 90% of the revenue of Somaliland, Puntland comes from those ports. If that's economically insignificant, I don't know what is.

 

[AceofSom]

iv been a begger nation for all our modern history

 

[CrazyWadaad]

I was about to write a long post but i deleted it...so I'll say a few things instead

If somalis can't agree on the events that took place under the kacaan, or whether these events were justified, or whether the kacaan was a brutal dictatorship or not, I doubt we can agree on whatever history this Kacaan decided to create.

Sadly due to tribalism the only unbiased source for somali history is non somali ones. When you read these sources and do a comparative analysis to what the kacaan historians Idaajaa and Aw Jaamac wrote, then you'll get your answers

The amount of fake history those bastards tried(but failed) to create is unbelievable.You will see many of their garac sons on here claiming

Axmad Gurey was marexan based on a book written during the Kacaan period

 

[Gilgamesh]

FDI would mean the ports would have been managed by foreigners who would be taking a cut of the revenue they generated like the turks do in xamar today or Dupai World did in Djibouti....where's the investment returns of the chinese in building the Berbera-Burco road....?

kulaha FDI

 

[Al Dhoobe]

@Bahal the other day I found out you were marexaan but you were quick to say you have no qabiil biases

One mention of the kacaan though and face down ass up like every marexaan on earth would do for their messiah siyaad barre.

 

[McD30]

This could have been an interesting discussion but these retarded schizophrenic Somalilanders ruined it.

 

[AceofSom]

This could have been an interesting discussion but these retarded schizophrenic Somalilanders ruined it.

I was thinking the same, the idoorian folks have taken over the thread.

 

[Bahal]

We requested they assist in constructing the highway which in turn would solidify Sino-Somalia relations



This is the Cold War era, this is the sort of development that occurred throughout the world.

In fact, to this day China is building ports throughout the world in a quid pro quo arrangement. The ROI doesn't necessarily have to be monetary, influence and access to natural resources are far more important.

 

[McD30]

I was thinking the same, the idoorian folks have taken over the thread.

They are so cringeworthy, they don't even realise it.

 

[Hubble]

Why can't the natural resources be sold and then you pay them to build? What a rip off.

 

[CrazyWadaad]

This could have been an interesting discussion but these retarded schizophrenic Somalilanders ruined it.

It's a take over you little MJ pussy!

 

[Bahal]

@Bahal the other day I found out you were marexaan but you were quick to say you have no qabiil biases

One mention of the kacaan though and face down ass up like every marexaan on earth would do for their messiah siyaad barre.

I'm very objective.

With the advantage of hindsight, Somalia would've been better off under the Kacaan. I'm sure most would agree with me.

 

[McD30]

It's a take over you little MJ pussy!

siilaanyolaugh MJ

 

[Gilgamesh]

"Requested" but when it comes to today's governments whether it's SL or Somalia it's "begged"

 

[Al Dhoobe]

I'm very objective.

With the advantage of hindsight, Somalia would've been better off under the Kacaan. I'm sure most would agree with me.

So if the dictator stayed and wiped out Isaaq it would've been a better somalia? Lol very objective

 

[Bahal]

There's a significant difference in signifcant investment used to court influence in an incredibly polarized geopolitical climate with actual aid used as a photo op. What the f*ck does Somalia have to offer today? We used to be a strategic nation coveted across the iron curtain. Now we're a charity case where a donation of two fire trucks is worthy of a photo op with the "President".

 

[Bahal]

So if the dictator stayed and wiped out Isaaq it would've been a better somalia? Lol very objective

I don't think "wiping" out a particular clan was ever part of the agenda, although I vehemently disagree with the events that unfolded in Northern Somalia in the late 80s.

From a purely utillitarian perspective, it would've been preferable to live under a repressive regime than the anarchy of the last quarter century and counting.

 

[McD30]

I don't think "wiping" out a particular clan was ever part of the agenda, although I vehemently disagree with the events that unfolded in Northern Somalia in the late 80s.

From a purely utillitarian perspective, it would've been preferable to live under a repressive regime than the anarchy of the last quarter century and counting.

A repressive regime with economic progress would be better but the argument here is, the Kacaan brought little to the economy, it didn't develop any industries, it survived on livestock, fuel imports and port fees. Most of those revenues went to the military machine which then oppressed opposition. People can overlook repression as long as they have a decent lifestyle but outside Mogadishu there was very little of that.

 

[Hubble]

Somalia had other industries like farming for exports, and we had factories too like fish processing, textiles, pasta and more.