Looks like borama might be next

[Ozark]

Interesting. If SL allow SSC to leave then FGS acknowledge’s SSC then we can defo end up seeing Awdal tensions as SL legitimacy crumbles. But not anytime soon, they’ll stick with them as long as SL doesn’t genocide them again

“Allow”? They don’t have a choice.

 

[Bernie Madoff]

“Allow”? They don’t have a choice.

Kkkkkkk he's right tho no need to get offended. RSL shown alot of restraint due to elder asking to leave wanting to handle it on their own. When the meetings done then you will see what will happen next.

I think Biixi will round up Las Anod in the end finally use some force, don’t be surprised also if these garaads end up locked up in mandheera theoretically we are still in Las Anod the army just left the main city and are in the outskirts in their military bases

 

[Ozark]

Kkkkkkk he's right tho no need to get offended. RSL shown alot of restraint due to elder asking to leave wanting to handle it on their own. When the meetings done then you will see what will happen next.

I think Biixi will round up Las Anod in the end finally use some force, don’t be surprised also if these garaads end up locked up in mandheera theoretically we are still in Las Anod the army just left the main city and are in the outskirts in their military bases

I wasn’t at all offended. Why should I not correct him?

You are beyond deluded, enjoy the triangle.

 

[repo]

Awdal are under economic and cultural repression. They are not allowed to develop trade routes through their region. The border points are closed and all commerce must go through Wajaale. This is why Borama is the same size as Gabiley. Then look at the geography, they are surrounded by other Dir like beesha dhexe who are well known to steal land which is exactly what has been happening between Dilla and Gabiley. The best thing we can do is clandestinely send 100,000 flags loaded on a chartered plane to Borama airstrip (it is no longer an airport because Somaliland forced it to close).

 

[GaradShabeel]

Kkkkkkk he's right tho no need to get offended. RSL shown alot of restraint due to elder asking to leave wanting to handle it on their own. When the meetings done then you will see what will happen next.

I think Biixi will round up Las Anod in the end finally use some force, don’t be surprised also if these garaads end up locked up in mandheera theoretically we are still in Las Anod the army just left the main city and are in the outskirts in their military bases

Caadi ma tihid, so we are causally talking about the use of force? By the very same people, who suffered the most from state sponsored violence?

One the flipside, dhulbahantes are armed to the teeth, and that region (eastern Sool) has probably most military equipment by civilians/militias, then anywhere on somali land. Now that they are united, brace yourself and y'all adeers in Hargeisa and cannon fodders in hiding, for a counter insurgency (SNM being being the insurgents). Don't say that you weren't warned. It will tarnished whatever you worked on, for the past 30 years.

 

[Bernie Madoff]

Caadi ma tihid, so we are causally talking about the use of force? By the very same people, who suffered the most from state sponsored violence?

One the flipside, dhulbahantes are armed to the teeth, and that region (eastern Sool) has probably most military equipment by civilians/militias, then anywhere on somali land. Now that they are united, brace yourself and y'all adeers in Hargeisa and cannon fodders in hiding, for a counter insurgency (SNM being being the insurgents). Don't say that you weren't warned. It will tarnished whatever you worked on, for the past 30 years.

Sxb this isn't Ethiopia where ur tribe is getting bullied by jaarso ans crying for help. War most likely won't happen but eastern sool folks getting more autonomy and more bribe money will most likely be the outcome after their meetings is done. They want become the Quebec of Somaliland if you get that reference

 

[GaradShabeel]

Awdal are under economic and cultural repression. They are not allowed to develop trade routes through their region. The border points are closed and all commerce must go through Wajaale. This is why Borama is the same size as Gabiley. Then look at the geography, they are surrounded by other Dir like beesha dhexe who are well known to steal land which is exactly what has been happening between Dilla and Gabiley. The best thing we can do is clandestinely send 100,000 flags loaded on a chartered plane to Borama airstrip (it is no longer an airport because Somaliland forced it to close).

This is why I feel like Awdal should take advantage of this current "instability", to call for constitutional reforms, mainly decentralization of power and create autonomous regions, in the name of trying to convince SSC back (even as Awdals wants to remain in SL). Otherwise, beesha dhexe are not going to willingly give up their hegemony. And it will get worse later on, as they will slowly lose the grip of control, once it's too late

 

[Awd]

Awdal are under economic and cultural repression. They are not allowed to develop trade routes through their region. The border points are closed and all commerce must go through Wajaale. This is why Borama is the same size as Gabiley. Then look at the geography, they are surrounded by other Dir like beesha dhexe who are well known to steal land which is exactly what has been happening between Dilla and Gabiley. The best thing we can do is clandestinely send 100,000 flags loaded on a chartered plane to Borama airstrip (it is no longer an airport because Somaliland forced it to close).

This is definitely a propagandist post. You've clearly never been to these areas and yet you comment on it as if you know it. You should ask someone who knows the land inside out.

They are not allowed to develop trade routes through their region.

Almost everything in Awdal is iskaa wax u qabso. Everything was built by the local population. You say we're not allowed to build trade routes. Didn't the Reer Awdal diaspora build the road from Dilla to Borama? Also the current project of building the Borama-Dharwanaaje Ethiopia road has already started. The road from Borama to Lawyacado is bring funded partly by Ethiopia and the Reer Awdal diaspora have already started building the dirt road from Borama to Quljeed to Boon to Weeraar to Fardaha to Laan Cawaale to Lawyacado. The SL ministers heading the project are Samaroon themselves. Who is stopping it? Borama Airport has been shut for a long time because there's too much competition, everyone to Hargeisa and its less than a 2 hr drive to Borama.

The border points are closed and all commerce must go through Wajaale.

Lawyacado is open and thr mayor of Lawyacado is Samaroon. Who says it's closed? Also you probably never heard of the town of Gorayo Cawl which has a it's own customs due to the lucrative trade with Ethiopia. Same goes for Xariirad aswell. If business was bad in Awdal, you wouldn't find Hawiye and Darood there setting up their own businesses and homes there. Lay off the propaganda it makes you look silly. Trust me there will be no blue wave in Awdal. Not going to happen.

 

[GaradShabeel]

Sxb this isn't Ethiopia where ur tribe is getting bullied by jaarso ans crying for help. War most likely won't happen but eastern sool folks getting more autonomy and more bribe money will most likely be the outcome after their meetings is done. They want become the Quebec of Somaliland if you get that reference

Hayaay, the only similarity here would be, SL being the Ethiopian regime/Oromia and dhulos being us, fierce fighters and defenders of our land. .
Nice try though.



All jokes aside, it seems like your people have given up on appeasing Dhulos, by looks of social media activity. It's no longer a secret of bribing investing in Sool to keep them happy. Better look for new ways of satisfying Dhulos and unhappy beesha dhexe

 

[Awd]

This is why I feel like Awdal should take advantage of this current "instability", to call for constitutional reforms, mainly decentralization of power and create autonomous regions, in the name of trying to convince SSC back (even as Awdals wants to remain in SL). Otherwise, beesha dhexe are not going to willingly give up their hegemony. And it will get worse later on, as they will slowly lose the grip of control, once it's too late

We already have everything you mentioned. The heads of the custom tax collecting centres in Awdal are all Samaroon. The head police chief of Awdal is Samaroon, the coastal military guard in Awdal is Samaroon. The local government's are almost all Samaroon, the businesses in every single town is mainly Samaroon. Even in Saylac, the ancient sites like Qiblatain and the grave of Shaykh Ibrahim Al Zaylici, it's owned by Sheikh Ibrahim Aw Kaariye Qawdhan who is the Religious affairs representative in Saylac who inherited the keys over 3 centuries and he's Samaroon. There is already a decentralised level of power which is why SL has been functioning well. We were part of the process, it doesn't work without us. Awdal is completely in the hands of it's people.

But I agree that the dynamics of SL politics in the East has been a complete failure. SL had many opportunities and have failed and it may be too late. The only way I can see anything changing is if Waddani come to power. Kulmiye completely failed in how they dealt with the situation.

 

[Wild daisy 💐🌻💮]

Looks like there some type of protest going on in boroma if it's true what kind of outcome would this have?

 

[GaradShabeel]

We already have everything you mentioned. The heads of the custom tax collecting centres in Awdal are all Samaroon. The head police chief of Awdal is Samaroon, the coastal military guard in Awdal is Samaroon. The local government's are almost all Samaroon, the businesses in every single town is mainly Samaroon. Even in Saylac, the ancient sites like Qiblatain and the grave of Shaykh Ibrahim Al Zaylici, it's owned by Sheikh Ibrahim Aw Kaariye Qawdhan who is the Religious affairs representative in Saylac who inherited the keys over 3 centuries and he's Samaroon. There is already a decentralised level of power which is why SL has been functioning well. We were part of the process, it doesn't work without us. Awdal is completely in the hands of it's people.

Didn't know about this , hopefully it continues this way for you guys and prosper, whatever you decide to do

 

[repo]

This is definitely a propagandist post. You've clearly never been to these areas and yet you comment on it as if you know it. You should ask someone who knows the land inside out.



Almost everything in Awdal is iskaa wax u qabso. Everything was built by the local population. You say we're not allowed to build trade routes. Didn't the Reer Awdal diaspora build the road from Dilla to Borama? Also the current project of building the Borama-Dharwanaaje Ethiopia road has already started. The road from Borama to Lawyacado is bring funded partly by Ethiopia and the Reer Awdal diaspora have already started building the dirt road from Borama to Quljeed to Boon to Weeraar to Fardaha to Laan Cawaale to Lawyacado. The SL ministers heading the project are Samaroon themselves. Who is stopping it? Borama Airport has been shut for a long time because there's too much competition, everyone to Hargeisa and its less than a 2 hr drive to Borama.



Lawyacado is open and thr mayor of Lawyacado is Samaroon. Who says it's closed? Also you probably never heard of the town of Gorayo Cawl which has a it's own customs due to the lucrative trade with Ethiopia. Same goes for Xariirad aswell. If business was bad in Awdal, you wouldn't find Hawiye and Darood there setting up their own businesses and homes there. Lay off the propaganda it makes you look silly. Trust me there will be no blue wave in Awdal. Not going to happen.

Gorayo Cawl is empty because all the khat and vegetable trade must pass through Wajaale for taxation. Lawyacado was recently opened after many years of blockade. What about Saylac port which had trade up until Siilaanyo closed it? And Awdal is around 20% of Somaliland but gets only 12% of the development fund. We will send those flags with express delivery, don't try and stop us please.

 

[Awd]

Looks like there some type of protest going on in boroma if it's true what kind of outcome would this have?

This is why I really dislike the Somaliweynists sometimes, they're such propagandists. They just post fake news. It's so cringe. Nothing is happening in Borama lol.

 

[repo]

This is why I feel like Awdal should take advantage of this current "instability", to call for constitutional reforms, mainly decentralization of power and create autonomous regions, in the name of trying to convince SSC back (even as Awdals wants to remain in SL). Otherwise, beesha dhexe are not going to willingly give up their hegemony. And it will get worse later on, as they will slowly lose the grip of control, once it's too late

There shouldn't be any violence or instability, there should only be a delivery of blue flags. It is cost effective.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Why would Borama want to be under Isaaq rule when it can self-govern and enjoy federal rights. The ppl sayin Awdal do not want to leave SL are 'snm' hider nicks. No clan in Somalia would refuse it's own state, not a single one. Awdal can be given 'special status' similar to SSC as 'unionist' states who are allowed to self rule under the Somali federation.

 

[Awd]

Gorayo Cawl is empty because all the khat and vegetable trade must pass through Wajaale for taxation. Lawyacado was recently opened after many years of blockade. What about Saylac port which had trade up until Siilaanyo closed it? And Awdal is around 20% of Somaliland but gets only 12% of the development fund. We will send those flags with express delivery, don't try and stop us please.

Why would it have it's own customs unit if it was empty? There was never a blockade in Lawyacado apart from the time when Djibouti and SL had terrible relations during the Cigaal era. Saylac port hasn't been functioning since the French built Djibouti well before Somalia even existed. The train from Dire Dawa to Djibouti killed Saylac off for good not SL. See this is what I mean. You don't know what you're talking about. I agree with you in one thing, SL is far from perfect and just like all African countries, it has corruption. Forget Awdal, have you seen the state of the roads in Hargeisa? Even Hargeisa doesn't get nothing. The people on top eat everything. So I agree there's a lot of problems but the alternative is not going back to Somalia which is a failed nation. Why trade a functioning deal which isn't perfect for a failed state that is a million times worse off than SL? Make it make sense

 

[Awd]

There shouldn't be any violence or instability, there should only be a delivery of blue flags. It is cost effective.

You're the guy who said Borama and Gabiley are the same size lol. I know you've never been and know next to nothing about this region but a simple Google Earth/Maps would have made you realise how ridiculous that statement is. Borama has been competing with Burco to claim 2nd spot after Hargeisa itself. The people want to just live so keep the flags lol

 

[repo]

Why would it have it's own customs unit if it was empty? There was never a blockade in Lawyacado apart from the time when Djibouti and SL had terrible relations during the Cigaal era. Saylac port hasn't been functioning since the French built Djibouti well before Somalia even existed. The train from Dire Dawa to Djibouti killed Saylac off for good not SL. See this is what I mean. You don't know what you're talking about. I agree with you in one thing, SL is far from perfect and just like all African countries, it has corruption. Forget Awdal, have you seen the state of the roads in Hargeisa? Even Hargeisa doesn't get nothing. The people on top eat everything. So I agree there's a lot of problems but the alternative is not going back to Somalia which is a failed nation. Why trade a functioning deal which isn't perfect for a failed state that is a million times worse off than SL? Make it make sense

The failed and functioning are practically the same in your situation. Actually in terms of development, you'd get more out of the failed one than the functioning. You are allocated far less for your population than other regions. With your own federal exclave, you will be given funding for new World Bank funded roads, institutional funding, a new runway and fishing ports. We will come to you and we will grab you by your arm and pull you up, Allah maak.

 

[Awd]

The failed and functioning are practically the same in your situation. Actually in terms of development, you'd get more out of the failed one than the functioning. You are allocated far less for your population than other regions. With your own federal exclave, you will be given funding for new World Bank funded roads, institutional funding, a new runway and fishing ports. We will come to you and we will grab you by your arm and pull you up, Allah maak.

If that's the case then why is Borama more developed than most other Somaliland towns? Borama has more schools and universities than any other Somali city including Mogadishu, let alone Hargiesa and Burco. Allocations of funds is as good as the hands of the local government it's distributed to and the method of investment. Also isn't the World Bank currently helping to fund the Lawyacado Borama Road which is one of the most important projects ever done? I'm not going to make the argument that SL is doing everything right. There are many issues, but it works for us. If a federal state is the answer to everything then why are most federal states doing so poorly?