Looks like borama might be next

[Awd]

The federal system is the best system for somalia we already seen a central government look at all central government either in central asia,middle east,and Africa all is ruled by dictator with iron fist Ismail Omar gelle family ruled Djibouti since independent July 26 1977

If you believe that the federal system should be able to veto Mogadishu then you're even worse than what you're accusing SL of, at least they're honest with it.

 

[Libaax-Joore]

I respect the self determination of the Dhulbahante and if its what they want nobody should try and force them. It was SL's complete policy failure especially Kulmiye that led to this.

Gobonimo 🫡🫡

 

[Libaax-Joore]

If you believe that the federal system should be able to veto Mogadishu then you're even worse than what you're accusing SL of, at least they're honest with it.

Clan Federal system is better than one man rule iam not accusing somaliland I actually admire them and if they become independent country I have no problem with them… me us puntlandlander iam better of today than I was 31 years that we had government 21 years of siyad bare and 10 years of parliamentary government aden cadde and Abdirashid ali sharmarke ,puntland was neglected by the siyad bare government ,prioritized Mogadishu and the government was communists everything was own by the government the 21 years of siyad barre rule we lost everything even my father and other Majerteeen left somalia after siyad bare coup in 1969 they say there is no hope in somalia and settled in kenya Four of my oldest siblings were born in kenya, my mother came back to somalia after her father passed away in 1980 she went back to her hometown bilis qoqaani afmadow district where she was born including me and four off my siblings and then moved to kismayo 1990 one year later the civil war happen from utaango to usa

@Araabi this is puntland today Alhamdulilah its not perfect but it’s better than authoritarian regime

 

[Magan95]

If you believe that the federal system should be able to veto Mogadishu then you're even worse than what you're accusing SL of, at least they're honest with it.

I have family in Borama… All of them are 100% pro Somalia unity. Look at this Samaron guy as well. They don’t voice their opinions though for fear of being reported

 

[Bernie Madoff]

I have family in Borama… All of them are 100% pro Somalia unity. Look at this Samaron guy as well. They don’t voice their opinions though for fear of being reported

That's very old clip you should his opinion now on Twitter

 

[Magan95]

That's very old clip you should his opinion now on Twitter

What’s his twitter?

 

[Magan95]

That's very old clip you should his opinion now on Twitter

seems like he’s still claiming Somalia:

 

[Bernie Madoff]

seems like he’s still claiming Somalia:

I remember he use to work with Somaliland government at one point. Goddamn he deleted alot of his anti fgs tweets. Most gadabursi are just indifferent and more worried about awdal than somalia imo

 

[Arkan]

seems like he’s still claiming Somalia:

The guy on the right is his Samaroon Adeer who holds the post of Finance Minister of Somalia while the guy on the left is the Ciise Finance Minister of Djibouti

He's preaching Ciise and Samaroon unity, la soco the agenda instead of taking it at face value lol

 

[Magan95]

The guy on his right is his Samaroon Adeer who holds the post of Finance Minister of Somalia while the left guy is thd Ciise Finance Minister of Djibouti

He's preaching Ciise and Samaroon unity, la soco the agenda

Yet I don’t see Somaliland flag in that post if he’s pro “SL”

 

[Arkan]

Yet I don’t see Somaliland flag in that post if he’s pro “SL”

What?

Having many of family in Borama, it’s obvious that I would run into him in person… and one thing I can tell you having met him in person recently is that he’s 100% for Somalia

You pro SL’rs and your propaganda is something else

Adigu horta yaa tahay. Sheeg qoladada iyo Reer abtiga...

When and where have I stated I was pro SL?

He already said he doesn't hold those views anymore, he believes in Irir Samaale and is anti Somalinimo. If what you're saying is true, it still aligns with his political stance.

 

[Magan95]

What?

Adigu horta yaa tahay. Sheeg qoladada iyo Reer abtiga...

When and where have I stated I was pro SL?

He already said he doesn't hold those views anymore, he believes in Irir Samaale and is anti Somalinimo. If what you're saying is true, it still aligns with his political stance.

You called my post agenda.
So I assumed you’re pro SL?

you said you’re not, okay.

Where did Dr. Aman say he doesn’t hold those views anymore?

 

[Awd]

I have family in Borama… All of them are 100% pro Somalia unity. Look at this Samaron guy as well. They don’t voice their opinions though for fear of being reported

One or a few people who you see online isn't representative of an entire group of people. I'm not denying that Samaroon really value Somalinimo and in fact we are very pro Somali in our nature. But in a neighbourhood where clan politics rules the day we've matured and have begun to slowly understand where we fit, especially in a region where clans look after their own personal interests. Why are clans demonised for wanting to be part of SL when every other Somali clan makes their own quasi independent states and nobody questions their Somalinimo? Why doesn't Puntland get any criticism when they're doing the exact same thing as Somaliland?
It took us a while but most Reer Awdal back home have come to realise that SL is the best deal on the table and as a project we were the ones that gave birth to the idea of Somaliland during the time when some of the SNM leaders wanted to organise a power sharing structure for a new Somalia. We are content with the status quo. My concern is that the image most people want to portray is that we're an oppressed clan and that we are under occupation which is absolutely false. This is not to say that we don't like Somalis, but we live in an age where every clan is furthering their own best interests.

Somalia doesn't exist anymore. Somaliland which is openly seeking independence, and including Puntland, Galmudug, Hirshabeele, Jubbaland and others have made sure that Somalia will never exist again. The argument that Somalia is now a federal state is absolute hogwash, I'm sorry to say. All of these different regions have more power than the federal state which completely contradicts a federal system of governance. Puntland has the power to completely dismiss Mogadishu. That's not federalism, that's independent rule.

 

[FBIsomalia]

The guy on the right is his Samaroon Adeer who holds the post of Finance Minister of Somalia while the guy on the left is the Ciise Finance Minister of Djibouti

He's preaching Ciise and Samaroon unity, la soco the agenda instead of taking it at face value lol

Somalia finance used to work oil company before he join HSM goverment.

 

[Arkan]

You called my post #agenda.
So I assumed you’re pro SL?

you said you’re not, okay.

Where did Aman say he doesn’t hold those views anymore?

You misread my post lol, I said "la soco the agenda"

I'm pro-Samaroon interests. If it points to being pro-sl then so be it. Meesha dantaydu taalo baan tagi oo joogi.

If you followed him on twitter before he deleted his tweets you would've seen he already stated those things.

Also, don't dodge my question... Sheeg qoladada iyo Reer Abtiga

 

[Arkan]

Somalia finance used to work oil company before he join HSM goverment.

Which oil company?

 

[FBIsomalia]

Which oil company?

Gulf country .

 

[Ragaasi]

Why doesn't Puntland get any criticism when they're doing the exact same thing as Somaliland?
It took us a while but most Reer Awdal back home have come to realise that SL is the best deal on the table and as a project we were the ones that gave birth to the idea of Somaliland during the time when some of the SNM leaders wanted to organise a power sharing structure for a new Somalia. We are content with the status quo. My concern is that the image most people want to portray is that we're an oppressed clan and that we are under occupation which is absolutely false. This is not to say that we don't like Somalis, but we live in an age where every clan is furthering their own best interests.

Somalia doesn't exist anymore. Somaliland which is openly seeking independence, and including Puntland, Galmudug, Hirshabeele, Jubbaland and others have made sure that Somalia will never exist again. The argument that Somalia is now a federal state is absolute hogwash, I'm sorry to say. All of these different regions have more power than the federal state which completely contradicts a federal system of governance. Puntland has the power to completely dismiss Mogadishu. That's not federalism, that's independent rule.

The audacity to shit on federalism, then go on another thread talking about how the gov. Of somalia never built a single road for Awdal lol.

Thats because all the resources to build the nation was pumped into xamar & surrounding areas. Mere definition of centralism, isnt that what your preaching for right now. And if you think puntland had perfectly paved roads we didnt. Now look at us, statistics prove we rank highest in practically all sectors of human development, whats Awdal doing? Pumping all there tax into Hargeysa. The 60-70's all over again.

Comparing pl to sl even worse then calling someone a midg33n. FOH with that hypocrisy.

Lastly I want to finish off by giving you a dose of reality. Somaliland will stay where it is, as long as they continue this ictiraaf journey. The isaaq elites have already realized this independence journey isnt making any progress, and when Somalia defeats Shabaab this decade which is more then likely, it would be doomsday for SL.

 

[Calaami]

Its not even about Somaliweyn, unity, midnimo or Somalia/SL for these people. Its just anti Isaaq success and a hinderance to Somalia succeeding under hawiye. Its an extremely tribal sub sub sub sub clannism and if it was even a unitary daroodism the dhulos would be glad with their 2/4 partial districts of sool to be under Puntlands federal state and the warsangeli would take their badhan district to puntland as well. Instead its all about how can we cause destrction or hinder SL so Isaaq doesn't succeed.

What darood wants is a completeley fragmented somalia because they're a completely fragmented qabiil, both geographically and politically. They don't want a strong central or even federal government in Somalia, and thats why all their so called states and issues with neighboring tribes is solely based on tribal borders. The federal model calls for 2 out of 18 regiions as a minimum qualifier, not districts or partial districts, but a clear look at what darood has claimed since Somalia opted the federal model exposes their blatant tribalism and lack of daacadnimo towards Somalia, The Republic of Somalia, Somaliland, or a Federal model for Somalia

1. Puntland State(constitutionally calls for 2 full gobols, + darood districts in mudug, half of buhoodle district in togdheer which they call "cayn", 2/4 partial districts of sool that darood settle, and 1 district of sanaag.
2. Maakhir State( Exlusively Warsangali parts of eastern sanaag)
3. "SSC"( Exlusively Dhulbahante parts of eastern sool, half of buhoodle district, few towns in Sanag)
4. Jubbaland(exlusively ogaden controlled kismaayo and surround towns)
5. Geedo( Exlusively marehan although they only inhabit western Geedo)
6. Xiriirland( Exlusively leelkase parts of mudug)

Some verbal diarrhea, cope ina Habusheed

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Some verbal diarrhea, cope ina Habusheed

The fact that you even read that, you must feel charitable today brother.