MASSIVE CALAMITY HAS VISITED UPON THE SOMALI NATION: a pic circulating of

[Cognitivedissonance]

Anecdotes, really? Are you saying it isn't a common theme for families to go that route?

And are you really that naive?

Think big, Bahal.

You don't see how that's not a deterrent at all?

I really want you to come to it yourself bc it's really not that hard.

I'm not the one in denial.

Clearly cause there's people in here denying their country & their ethnicity I guess you have bigger fish to fry cause you need to grapple with your inferiority complex sincerely my heart goes out to you cause it must be a miserable existence to hate where you're from & your ethnicity, culture, country miskeen don't despair

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

I am Muslim. I do not trust any nation to inact shariah law in the current geopolitical climate without compromising on human rights and ethics.

In the future perhaps but as of today I don't want folk like you to be persecuted for their haramnimo

How could you believe in the shariah & not believe in capital punishment

 

[VixR]

Clearly cause there's people in here denying their country & their ethnicity I guess you have bigger fish to fry cause you need to grapple with your inferiority ocomplex sincerely my heart goes out to you cause it must be a painful existence to hate where you're from & your ethnicity, culture, country miskeen don't despair

You're the ones who hate yourselves. Not only do you deny your biggest problems and self-harm, you spit on the prospect of improvement bc there is nothing to improve. If that isn't self-hate, I don't know what is. I have to distance myself sometimes to be able to compartmentalize the things you choose to stand for.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

You're the ones who hate yourselves. Not only do you deny your biggest problems and self-harm, and you spit on improvement. If that isn't self-hate, I don't know what is.

Why do you refer to Somalia as a foreign country that's not associated to you in anyway likewise you distance yourself from Somalis as if you were from a different race or ethnicity, why do you do this? do you care to elaborate?

 

[John Michael]

I've posted this on Somalispot a week ago under a thread, anyways thanks for creating this thread to raise awareness.

Let's turn this thread Mudaneyaal iyo Marwooyin,

To raise funds for the poor girls.

The whole town and and the diaspora are collecting -qaaraan funds for the poor girls,

I think 5 guys are in the custody and 1 ran off-
Their fate will be decide, that's what I've heard.

If anyone who wants to donate money $$ I can direct you where to send the money- either in London or direct to Galdogob, to support the poor masaakiin girls.

Girls???

Was it's several girls?

 

[Bahal]

Anecdotes, really? Are you saying it isn't a common theme for families to go that route?

And are you really that naive?

Think big, Bahal.

You don't see how that's not a deterrent at all?

I really want you to come to it yourself bc it's really not that hard.

I'm not the one in denial.

Again, you're bizarrely trying to pin the actions of criminals on Somali culture, when Somali culture has very stiff penalties for rape in a pastoral setting and a civil code that stringently punished rapists and other criminals prior to the civil war.

You keep pointing to anecdotes of a few families protecting their criminal members and fleeing justice as if fleeing justice is an exclusive Somali institution.

So far, you've claimed Somali culture perpetuates rape. I've shown you the deadly consequences of such an act on not only the perpetrator, but his immediate family and wider diya paying group.

What are you going to claim next?

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

@VixR talking to you about Somalia & Somalis is similar to talking to a racist white man about other races it's fruitless & pointless in my humble opinion cause you wish to malign them in general.

 

[Grigori Rasputin]

La ilaha ila lahu

She already was stabbed multiple times.

Where ever it took place these bastards should be brought to justice.

Idiots have produced their face and the authorities of wherever shithole they reside in will feel the heat

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

I would hire a few men to kill every single bastard that collaborated in the rape of my family member.

Nothing works but death for some crimes

 

[VixR]

Again, you're bizarrely trying to pin the actions of criminals on Somali culture, when Somali culture has very stiff penalties for rape in a pastoral setting and a civil code that stringently punished rapists and other criminals prior to the civil war.

You keep pointing to anecdotes of a few families protecting their criminal members and fleeing justice as if fleeing justice is an exclusive Somali institution.

So far, you've claimed Somali culture perpetuates rape. I've shown you the deadly consequences of such an act on not only the perpetrator, but his immediate family and wider diya paying group.

What are you going to claim next?

The picture you paint is flawed. Fleeing justice is part of the deal. There is no justice but the punishment of family members that had nothing to do with the crime.

It perpetuates rape; the victims are often silenced, the perpetrators go unpunished, when they are, instead of facing any kind of punishment instead the family is burdened with paying their debt. We send monies all the time, for disputes and murders and tiffs. It's not like any one person shoulders anything significant but the most richest, which includes ppl from the diaspora for crimes committed overseas. You painted rape as second to murder, but that is in fact untrue with the reality on the ground. And anyone who's family pays pressures with $ and moves town out here and so ends up running scot free from the crime, and the girls were discouraged by elders from taking it to the authorities in both cases, one of them failing to do so bc of the high pressure against her family.

 

[Sixth]

Flag the video and the photos down man, this guy is beyond retarded.

 

[Grigori Rasputin]

Flag the video and the photos down man, this guy is beyond retarded.

Which guy ?

 

[Bahal]

Things that VixR has learned about Somali culture so far.

1)Somalis are not related (despite the genetic studies I posted which she refused to look up and dismissed as not being definitive science)

2) Abgaals are looked down upon because they domesticated donkeys (invented by a Somalispotter and taken at face value by VixR)

3) Cigaal Shiidaads clan was outcasted because of his cowardice (another Somalispot joke I tried to explain, which was met with the assertion that she doesn't believe in this story any more than the story of madhibaans ancestors eating carrion )

4) Dumaal

5) Somali culture apparently condones rape

I cant wait to see what she comes up with next.

 

[Ahlubayt]

Girls???

Was it's several girls?

What I've heard so far is two girls who were raped by 6 boys.

 

[VixR]

Things that VixR has learned about Somali culture so far.

1)Somalis are not related (despite the genetic studies I posted which she refused to look up and dismissed as not being definitive science)

2) Abgaals are looked down upon because they domesticated donkeys (invented by a Somalispotter and taken at face value by VixR)

3) Cigaal Shiidaads clan was outcasted because of his cowardice (another Somalispot joke I tried to explain, which was met with the assertion that she doesn't believe in this story any more than the story of madhibaans ancestors eating carrion )

4) Dumaal

5) Somali culture apparently condones rape

I cant wait to see what she comes up with next.

You are just chock full of half-truths and lies. Of those, 4 and 5 are correct.1 is disputed. Everything else a awash and mischaracterization.

I wonder how you keep it together, the stack of cards.

 

[DiricLover]

You're beyond obsessed with this guy, following his every move. His futo looking ass needs to be banned from social media saqajaanka

 

[Bahal]

The picture you paint is flawed. Fleeing justice is part of the deal. There is no justice but the punishment of family members that had nothing to do with the crime.

It perpetuates rape; the victims are often silenced, the perpetrators go unpunished, when they are, instead of facing any kind of punishment instead the family is burdened with paying their debt. We send monies all the time, for disputes and murders and tiffs. It's not like any one person shoulders anything significant but the most richest, which includes ppl from the diaspora for crimes committed overseas. You painted rape as second to murder, but that is in fact untrue with the reality on the ground. And anyone who's family pays pressures with $ and moves town out here and so ends up running scot free from the crime, and the girls were discouraged from taking it to the authorities in both cases, one of them failing to do so bc of the high pressure against her family.

Do you understand the value of losing that much livestock in a pastoral setting? A rapist going to jail is one thing, his family literally starving to death is another. Again, diya is the ultimate punishment that hurts every single member of the community, which acts as one of the strongest deterrents against crime I can think of.

Why you can't understand that is beyond me. I can only assume you don't understand the dire consequences losing 100 camels has on a society where camels and other livestock are literally their only form of wealth.

Your anecdotal evidence of fleeing families reflects only on those families. Jails in the diaspora are littered with Somali criminals of all stripes. If a family refuses to prosecute a criminal, it reflects on that family alone.

I don't see how that's hard to understand.

 

[Mohamud]

This is the third thread on this. Why are you so fascinated with degeneracy and inhumanity?

And dabz is probably getting a knock on his door from the police. I don't think he knows how laws work. I don't think he knows much of anything.

 

[VixR]

Do you understand the value of losing that much livestock in a pastoral setting? A rapist going to jail is one thing, his family literally starving to death is another. Again, diya is the ultimate punishment that hurts every single member of the community, which acts as one of the strongest deterrents against crime I can think of.

Why you can't understand that is beyond me. I can only assume you don't understand the dire consequences losing 100 camels has on a society where camels and other livestock are literally their only form of wealth.

Your anecdotal evidence of fleeing families reflects only on those families. Jails in the diaspora are littered with Somali criminals of all stripes. If a family refuses to prosecute a criminal, it reflects on that family alone.

I don't see how that's hard to understand.

Like I said, lets deal with the facts here. Hardly any Somali back home is as vulnerable as you paint them for the constant crutch the diaspora as become, but for a few that self-sustain. Secondly, no one is starving for rape.

The 'anecdotal evidence' is overwhelming, and what you fail to do is account for the cultural pressures I've already mentioned and will continue to mention until you stop bullshitting about them.

 

[Bahal]

You are just chock full of half-truths and lies. Of those, 4 and 5 are correct.1 is disputed. Everything else a awash and mischaracterization.

I wonder how you keep it together, the stack of cards.

Really?

http://www.somalispot.com/threads/my-dislike-hatred-for-sland-reaches-shukaansiworld.17108/page-13

1)

Mugdi mudug?

Until a significant portion of the Somali worldwide population gets tested, I won't believe we're a "small, homogeneous family". Just sounds Somalweyn rhetoric for ppl who hate each others guts. No basis on the reality on the ground whatsoever.

After I told her about the large number of peer reviewed genetic studies done by you know, actual geneticists

His ancestor hid behind a dirac can hardly be considered modern politics

I said I'm holding out for definitive science
I'm not the one with a problem with ignorance here, Mister we-didn't-understand-the-concept-of-class-in-the-80s.

2)

As a casual observer can't help but do so from time to time

Dirac Probably a made-up story by an opposing tribe for battle morale that became a legend, like the domesticated donkey thing that ended up being bullshit apparently. Treating each other based on the stuff of fairytales.

3) in reference to cigaal shiidaads clan being outcast because he hid behind his wife's diric and unironcally thinking the cigaal shiidaad story and abgaal stories made up on somalispot were comparable to the real madhibaans story

Continuously confirmed madness. I'm staying watching from the sidelines the shitshow that is our ppl.

Dirics and donkeys and dead animals