MASSIVE CALAMITY HAS VISITED UPON THE SOMALI NATION: a pic circulating of

[VixR]

Really?

http://www.somalispot.com/threads/my-dislike-hatred-for-sland-reaches-shukaansiworld.17108/page-13

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3) in reference to cigaal shiidaads clan being outcast because he hid behind his wife's diric and unironcally thinking the cigaal shiidaad story and abgaal stories made up on somalispot were comparable to the real madhibaans story

Nice try, con artist. Anyone that goes back to that thread, and please do, will see what really happened in full; whether it was that I was mocking the stories, or actually believed them for myself, and the hint lies in the terms I used to refer to them, as TALES, etc.

 

[Bahal]

VixR, as much as you like to run away from Somali culture, you display the one Somali trait that I truly detest; the inability to admit you don't really know what you're talking about.

 

[Bahal]

Nice try, con artist. Anyone that goes back to that thread, and please do, will see what really happened in full; whether it was that I was mocking the stories, or actually believed them for myself, and the hint lies in the terms I used to refer to them, as TALES, etc.

What you fail to understand is that there is a distinct difference between actual stories believed by some Somalis e.g. the madhibaan origin myth and stories that were literally made up on somalispot.

You thought those were legit myths people believed. That's how little you know the subject you so stubbornly continue to judge and make broad generalizations about.

 

[VixR]

VixR, as much as you like to run away from Somali culture, you display the one Somali trait that I truly detest; the inability to admit you don't really know what you're talking about.

The way you always try to curb arguments by trying to say I'm running away from Somali culture for disavowing the worst of it is really interesting, but that's no more a deterrent than if your family were to pay peanuts for some crime godknowswho committed back home.

 

[Bahal]

The way you always try to curb arguments by trying to say I'm running away from Somali culture for disavowing the worst of it is really interesting, but that's no more a deterrent than if your family were to pay peanuts for some crime godknowswho committed back home.

Peanuts?

Wiping out familial wealth isnt a big deal to you? Imagine the consequence of having your house repossessed if you committed a crime. Would you say that is a strong deterrent to crime?

 

[VixR]

Peanuts?

Wiping out familial wealth isnt a big deal to you? Imagine the consequence of having your house repossessed if you committed a crime. Would you say that is a strong deterrent to crime?

...And a literal community bank to keep that from happening.

 

[dhegdheer]

Poor girl

I will not discuss this matter due to a mad woman in this forum who always misconstrues my every single statements as a women hater.

That's because your a saqajaan, stay silent

 

[Bahal]

...And a literal community bank to go to keep that from happening.

No, again if you understood what you were talking about, you'd know the immediate nuclear family would face the brunt of the cost. A camel in Somalia goes from anywhere from $300 to $1000. You're looking at losing not only anywhere from 30k-100k, but also losing literally your only source of income and livelihood, and in many cases your only form of sustenance.

In some cases, the family is either unable or unwilling to pay, which leaves the criminal clanless and defenseless which will most likely result in a very uncomfortable death.

Is there anything else I can help you understand?

 

[Ferrari]

@VixR why do you keep saying "this is your culture"? Isn't it also your culture? Remember, most people here were born in the diaspora just like yet somehow you think it's our problem and our fault but not yours? Somali culture needs reformation like @biesla said but that doesn't mean Somalis as a whole are ok with girls being gang raped or raped at all.

Remember this guy?

He got away with raping a drunk girl behind a dumpster and they had two eye witnesses as he did it. He got away with it, does this mean Americans are ok with rape culture? You can criticize Somali culture and that is something most of us here encourage but don't make it seem like you are different when you are one of us. And second, don't make it seem like the majority of us are okay with rape when we are not.

 

[Rooble]

Rapists clan ?
Rape victim clan?
Did they end up in jail?

 

[VixR]

No, again if you understood what you were talking about, you'd know the immediate nuclear family would face the brunt of the cost. A camel in Somalia goes from anywhere from $300 to $1000. You're looking at losing not only anywhere from 30k-100k, but also losing literally your only source of income and livelihood, and in many cases your only form of sustenance.

In some cases, the family is either unable or unwilling to pay, which leaves the criminal clanless and defenseless which will most likely result in a very uncomfortable death.

Is there anything else I can help you understand?

Nope. I don't know about you, but no one leaves their clan member, a clan member they would lie for, sponsor as their fake immediate family member, rip out of jail, defend with all their might, leave this same guy clanless. Maybe that one is a truly familyless fellow, for no matter how useless, someone always stans for them, all the more if they have different diasporan families to bear the brunt and pay their bail, and erect their stalls, and startups for their start and stop businesses.

 

[Apollo]

VixR is turning into a female version of AbdiJohnson.

The AbdiJohnson virus has to be contained.

 

[Rooble]

Someone summarise it for me

 

[Bahal]

Nope. I don't know about you, but no one leaves their clan member, a clan member they would lie for, sponsor as their fake immediate family member, rip out of jail, defend with all their might, leave this same guy clanless. Maybe that one is a truly familyless fellow, for no matter how useless, someone always stans for them, all the more if they have different diasporan families to bear the brunt and pay their bail, and erect their stalls, and startups for their start and stop businesses.

Yes they would. Under the traditional xeer system, forget individuals, entire subclans are outcasted at times.

My clan has outcasted entire lineages for centuries because of the actions of one individual i.e. Hawrarsame were demoted to midgaan status because they killed the Marehan chief literally hundreds of years ago.

They were kicked out, had all their wealth confiscated, refused marriage, and generally treated like animals until like a decade or so ago after another Ugaas was ironically killed by my subsubsubsubsubclan, after which they were "rehabilitated".

In that context, people can easily find themselves clanless if they are serial criminals. It's one of the principles of the xeer.

 

[VixR]

@VixR why do you keep saying "this is your culture"? Isn't it also your culture? Remember, most people here were born in the diaspora just like yet somehow you think it's our problem and our fault but not yours? Somali culture needs reformation like @biesla said but that doesn't mean Somalis as a whole are ok with girls being gang raped or raped at all.

Remember this guy?

He got away with raping a drunk girl behind a dumpster and they had two eye witnesses as he did it. He got away with it, does this mean Americans are ok with rape culture? You can criticize Somali culture and that is something most of us here encourage but don't make it seem like you are different when you are one of us. And second, don't make it seem like the majority of us are okay with rape when we are not.

"It's yours too" is really just echoing, when I'm only one of few of us actually acknowledging it. Indeed Somali culture needs severe reformation so there we can agree.

As for the swimmer guy, I know that story very well. And America does have rape culture, but it is nowhere near the epic league of Somali rape culture.

 

[dhegdheer]

Delete this thread let her rest in peace for fucks sake. No need to bring traffic to that lunatics site

 

[Shamis]

I'm in love with @VixR

 

[Bahal]

"It's yours too" is really just echoing, when I'm only one of few of us actually acknowledging it. Indeed Somali culture needs severe reformation so there we can agree.

As for the swimmer guy, I know that story very well. And America does have rape culture, but it is nowhere near the epic league of Somali rape culture.

It's like talking to a brick wall wallahi

 

[VixR]

It's like talking to a brick wall wallahi

Ironic that you say that; that's exactly how I feel

The way you try me with half-truths in your posts, I see right through them.

VixR is turning into a female version of AbdiJohnson.

The AbdiJohnson virus has to be contained.

Abdijohnson and I are nothing like each other. Although he is often mixed with contradictory views (a lot of ppl on here are like that), there are some things he gets right, our objectives, thoughts and personalities are completely different.

 

[Ferrari]

"It's yours too" is really just echoing, when I'm only one of few of us actually acknowledging it. Indeed Somali culture needs severe reformation so there we can agree.

As for the swimmer guy, I know that story very well. And America does have rape culture, but it is nowhere near the epic league of Somali rape culture.

I am lost here. How can you tell any of us that "this is your culture"? Isn't Somali culture your culture too? Please answer with a yes or no. You're like a boxer with the amount of deflection you do.

Somali culture needs massive reformation and I think almost everyone who posted here aside from that terrorist kid from London agrees. Menace, bahal, biesla, myself, jubaman and even the white guy said the same thing. so I am not even going to argue with you on that but what intrigues me is how you single yourself out like you aren't a somali and point a finger at the rest of us. I am genuinely confused.

as for Brock Turner(the swimmer guy), he got a way with rape and it is not because Americans approve of rape which is what you kept repeating about Somalis and rape culture, but because the justice system is a mess. It is the same in Somalia. There is rape culture in somalia, it isn't as prevalent as you make it seem, and it could be fixed if we had a strong justice system that could be enforce fairly at all times.