More Waqooyis wants the return of Unity

[waraabe]

Somaliland would get a South Sudan like scenerio where after given independence it would be a free for all; Dhullos and Gadabuursi not wanting to be a part of SL seeking unity or their own countries, Intra Isaaq fighting over who gets power meaning theyre all back at square one.

You guys have been living in the west for too long and are to illusionsed, we ar Africans splitting of countries and leadership change is always followed by heavy conflict resulting in the people being worse off than before.

You will say anything under the sun wouldn't you . Fix your country

 

[Bohol]

I agree with @Guysensei . Somaliland is not mature enough to hold democratic elections on time nevermind handling
a recognized country.

 

[DrippinglyWet]

South Sudan had no experience running a country before they got their independence. Somaliland has been running their territory for 26 years. All the power struggle issues have already been dealt with.

When Somaliland gets international recognition the people will continue their lives as if it were any other day.

Wrong South Sudan like SL ran like an autonomous region for decades doing their own bussiness and governing themselves but after independence was reached all these symptoms started greed and power hunger destroyed the nation.

 

[Deactivated]

Somalia literally was a banana republic

Somaliland could have had this guy run for President this election but tribalism had to f*ck it up

The only fear is that the Millenials in Somaliland will grow up with Oday mentalities. This cycle is about to happen in the next 10 years
if Somali and Somaliland don't get young leaders voted by the youth.

 

[Foreman]

The economic potential is a lot higher in the south, because;

• High population meaning more people can contribute to the country (manufracting capabilty among others)
• Fertile lands, the south is home to the two only rivers in the country if utilised well the south can have a massive food surplus.
• Resources, people forget the massive Uranuim deposits in central Somalia ( one of the biggest in the world) and huge proven gas reserves of our coast.

because Ethiopian exports make such a big part of SL economy, if they would get independence Ethiopia would have three countries to choose for exports meaning competition between the ports lower revenue for all and cheaper ports fee for Ethiopia. SL GDP would tank heavily in such a scenario.

I am not discussing about the economical potential within Somalia, but what would SL benefit or lose from staying with Somalia. As far as SL is concerned it will mean that vegetables and fruits coming from Somalia will get more expensive, that's it and maybe higher ticket price for flights between SL and Somalia.

 

[merka]

Wrong South Sudan like SL ran like an autonomous region for decades doing their own bussiness and governing themselves but after independence was reached all these symptoms started greed and power hunger destroyed the nation.

South Sudan was run different revel groups controlled by warlords. They were fighting with the Sudan government for 50 years.

When they got their independence, large sections of the country was under the control of rebel groups not loyal to the new government.

Somaliland's territory is controlled by their military. All clan militias gave up their arms in the 90s. The government has the monopoly of force.

If there is a leadership struggle it will be through peaceful means as it has been done in the past.

Your doomsday scenario for Somaliland has no real basis and only shows your hatred for an independent Somaliland.

 

[DrippinglyWet]

I am are not discussing about the economical potential within Somalia, but what would SL benefit or lose from staying with Somalia. As far as SL is concerned it will mean that vegetables and fruits coming from Somalia will get more expensive, that's it and maybe higher ticket price for flights between SL and Somalia.

Have you read my post ? The country will tear itself apart in a Intra Isaaq war with dhullo and gadabuursi seceding.

 

[Foreman]

I agree with @Guysensei . Somaliland is not mature enough to hold democratic elections on time nevermind handling
a recognized country.

But Somalia is?

By that logic Somalia is not mature enough to stand on its own two legs which means they can't handle a sovereign country.

 

[DrippinglyWet]

South Sudan was run different revel groups controlled by warlords. They were fighting with the Sudan government for 50 years.

When they got their independence, large sections of the country was under the control of rebel groups not loyal to the new government.

Somaliland's territory is controlled by their military. All clan militias gave up their arms in the 90s. The government has the monopoly of force.

If there is a leadership struggle it will be through peaceful means as it has been done in the past.

Your doomsday scenario for Somaliland has no real basis and only shows your hatred for an independent Somaliland.

Dis armed? Theyre more than enough AKs lying underneath peoples bed, its a fact Dhullos and Dirs wouldnt accept it. Theyre already People proclaiming for intra Isaaq states like saaxil state etc.

 

[Foreman]

Have you read my post ? The country will year itself apart in a Intra Isaaq war with dhullo and gadabuursi seceding.

Wild speculations based on what? SSC/Khatumo who were crushed and currently in talks with SL while the army is patrolling 70% of their alleged territory ? Or Sultan Waber who gave himself in to SL authorities last year?


Just admit it you have no legs to stand on.

 

[merka]

The only fear is that the Millenials in Somaliland will grow up with Oday mentalities. This cycle is about to happen in the next 10 years
if Somali and Somaliland don't get young leaders voted by the youth.

There needs to be an maximum age limit to run for public office. Imo anyone over 70 shouldn't be president.

Most elderly people don't have the mental capacity to decide what clothes to wear let alone make the decisions on how to run a country.

 

[Bohol]

But Somalia is?

By that logic Somalia is not mature enough to stand on its own two legs which means they can't handle a sovereign country.

Well Somalia is a basket case. Do you think the world wants another basket case and a drain on their resources aka "gimme gimme
aid we are facing drought" every year. To the world it is better to have one third world sh!thole than 2 sh!tholes inhabited by the same ethnic group.

 

[DrippinglyWet]

Wild speculations based on what? SSC/Khatumo who were crushed and currently in talks with SL while the army is patrolling 70% of their alleged territory ? Or Sultan Waber who gave himself in to SL authorities last year?


Just admit it you have no legs to stand on.

Sxb just Today Ethiopia refused to give the Anti-SL gadabuursi rebel back to SL, meaning he is an bargaining chip

the only thing keeping these people from picking up arms is the reality that independence will never come if it will come expect lots of fighting and more "lands"

 

[merka]

Dis armed? Theyre more than enough AKs lying underneath peoples bed, its a fact Dhullos and Dirs wouldnt accept it. Theyre already People proclaiming for intra Isaaq states like saaxil state etc.

People can talk about these paper states all they want. Until you see people take arms and control territory then it's just calaacal.

There's enough support within Dhulbahante and Dir tribes for an independent Somaliland. If the ones who don't want to be a part of it then they can move to Somalia or take up arms and kick them out.

 

[Foreman]

@Guysensei That would be like claiming PL is about to collapse

Well Somalia is a basket case. Do you think the world wants another basket case and a drain on their resources aka "gimme gimme
aid we are facing drought" every year. To the world it is better to have one third world sh!thole than 2 sh!tholes inhabited by the same ethnic group.

Somaliland can't organize elections on time ---- does not deserve to be a country.

Somalia can't secure 1 city ------------ deserves to be a country.


Bal ku noqoo mar labaad.

 

[DrippinglyWet]

People can talk about these paper states all they want. Until you see people take arms and control territory then it's just calaacal.

There's enough support within Dhulbahante and Dir tribes for an independent Somaliland. If the ones who don't want to be a part of it then they can move to Somalia or take up arms and kick them out.

You cant kick them out of their land. If they stay their land stays aswell.

 

[Foreman]

Sxb just Today Ethiopia refused to give the Anti-SL gadabuursi rebel back to SL, meaning he is an bargaining chip

the only thing keeping these people from picking up arms is the reality that independence will never come if it will come expect lots of fighting and more "lands"

Lamo @Duke of Bohol do you see what have you done?

 

[Bohol]

@Guysensei That would be like claiming PL is about to collapse




Somaliland can't organize elections on time ---- does not deserve to be a country.

Somalia can't secure 1 city ------------ deserves to be a country.


Bal ku noqoo mar labaad.

Somalia is already a country by luck. Nobody said it deserves more than Sland, but it is what it is. We can't reverse it. In life sometimes you have to work with what you have not what you wish to have.

 

[merka]

Somaliland can't organize elections on time ---- does not deserve to be a country.

Somalia can't secure 1 city ------------ deserves to be a country.


Bal ku noqoo mar labaad.

Since when is having elections a requirement to be a country? These Somaliland haters will keep moving the goal post for as long as possible

 

[merka]

You cant kick them out of their land. If they stay their land stays aswell.

Other people from their own tribes will gladly take over the lands they leave behind.

They can leave or fight. If not then they should shut up and move on with their lives.