Simply put, by signing binding legal treaties absent deserved legal counsel.
Here is a reference to the treaty, as referenced in the Ankara communique: land-locked nations vs transit states.
UNC Law of the Sea, III.
MOU DEAD! Somalia and Ethiopia Reach Deal
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Here is a reference to the treaty, as referenced in the Ankara communique: land-locked nations vs transit states.
UNC Law of the Sea, III.
Hotchick12
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ethiopia canβt afford the infrastructure to exploit our ezz they canβt even exploit the somali region without going through belligerents and somalia is 10 times worse
It is not just a case of affordability, for even if it were, investment would be sourced elsewhere, but more of Somalis competing to granting .Et access to the sea, and eventually .So being folded into, and under .Et's orbit. It benefits the financiers of the geopolitics of the region. Damn the poor, soulless nomads.
- 50 years ago, speaking of it would have precipitated one's head being chopped off,
- 30 years ago, it would have been unacceptable to contemplate,
- 20 years ago, disinterest stilled, if forcefully,
- Today, most Somalis hardly consider it an issue, in fact many advocate for joining .Et.
By the way, it is not just .So, but applies to the entire Muslim world, which is on a free fall. Interesting times ahead.
You're making a long list of excuses for HSM, maybe things would've been better if he focused on defeating the shabab terrorists, didn't change the constitution and actually worked on uniting the country.. He failed all of this, but keep on making excuses to cover his failure... What was his favorite sentence.. Loo jOojiN maYoo
What excuses? I am simply acknowledging reality.
- AS offensive failed due to clans being openly allied with AS. They would scream and shout if SNA would cleanse AS from their area.
- Constitution, I understand why states where hesitant but that practically was only PLs concern. I understand why, but personally I did not see anything wrong with what he was doing. FGS should be on paper more powerful then FMS. The reason why reer PL feel this is due to civil war.
One man canβt be blamed for the problems of government. Its a collective. Somalis love blaming one man (MSB) absolving others from blame. Somalias failure lies on its people, thats why a traitor like Hsm can βruleβ in Somalia.
Everything ties into qabyaalad, our root issue. Only way to rise is through co-operation which can be faciliated by money(resources) or religion (Imam Axmed Gureys jihad, various sufi tariqas).
The latters space atm is occupied by khawariji, no alternative has rosen (yet).
What? Maybe the ones in Somaliland but you saw all the protests happening in Somalia when the MoU was announced. Its callous of you to assume the average Somali wouldn't think it an issue, let alone letting their land fall under Ethiopian influence or annexation.
More importantly, its not really feasible. Somalia still has Al-Shabab which Ethiopia still considers a major security issue so they are really just inviting terrorism in, and you know how much they struggle with Fano already.
Many could not care less, and even adopted the language of 'our brethren' with respect to .Et. Have you not seen loud, fervent protestations in S West advocating, actually crying for .Et round the time Masri troops landed at Xamar? That was a few weeks ago.
Many Somalis advocate for the complete annihilation of, and downfall of al Shabab. You can not have it both way: wanting al Shabab to defend and protect, yet work with the enemy for its decimation.
Ethiopia had its hands in Gedo/SW for decades now with Laftagareen being their proxy, its not that surprising. Outside of that you will hardly find any Somalis cheering for Ethiopia.
Yes and no. Al-Shabab controls a significant chunk of Somali territory and by and largely get support from local Somali tribes but Somalis outside of Shabab control will want to see them defeated. Even Laftagareen whom I mentioned before has a lot of his clansmen that prefer Al-Shabab.
Somalis can often have divided loyalties but by and largely they are skeptical of Ethiopia at best and highly negative at worst. Reer Galbeed is the best example, not a single one of them identify as Ethiopian and many still seek to join Somalia (their preferred clan state) but are powerless at the moment to do so.
Hotchick12
VIP
we somalis are happy for this, happy that they are paying djibouti and landers for access, soon they will pay fgs
TheLand
VIP
Urdugaan Xaayow, Urdugaan Calasow, Urdugan Macowβ¦.
Abdisamad
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Then how come this shithole country has troops present inside Hiraan, Bakool, Bay and Gedo? It has the acceptance of the clans there. It works closely with reer SL. Ethiopia has a consulate in Garowe. GM is building Hobyo port partly to access their market. Wake up, everyone is a traitor. I personally thought this MoU deal would light a fire under FGS because it threatens
We have always beaten them 1 on 1 but wake up. Traitors are everywhere, Ethiopia even had a compound inside Villa Somalia until it was remo
Hsm has praised Siyad Barre/kacaan and called USC/other rebel groups warlords. The man is many things but truly a clannist person? Thats farfetched. He is a man who would do anything to enrich himself and stay in power. Traits shared by practically all somali politicians.
After ethiopias army is devastated, what then? Its back to square one. All federal states/clans want to make deals with them and side with them over FGS. You have to address the root cause behind our conditions which hinder us from fighting back against our adversaries.
Hsm is abgaal, when has abgaal fought daroods? His clan and yours have historically neutral relations. You guys think all hawiyes are habargidirs in disguise.
Blaming HSM is easy, but he is a creator of Somalia. The Somali people don't want a strong state, they want strong clans. Blame the weak, corrupt and tribalistic society that has birth failures like HSM.
Somalis always have a choice. A strong clan or a strong state.
Somalis always have a choice. A strong clan or a strong state.
Abdisamad
VIP
This is not about darood or Hawiye, simply put HSM is corrupt and he tried to change the constitution, this is what people are against, all Somalis agreed on federalism which HSM is trying to destroy and shit on by creating his own home made constiution and when states protest he arrogantly goes to villa Somalia mosque to mock federal states.. Lastly he send SNA boys from muqdisho into a doomed mission to attack JL.. Are you gonna make more excuses for this incompetent fool? Maybe you are the qabiliste here defending HSM?
I used to be like that before I joined this forums. Had love for the home land but didnβt care for its politics and now I'm addicted. There's no bigger self sabotaging group of people like us. I'm certain we're a research project kept in chaos to study.I asked my friend if he heard what HSM did? home boi said who tf is that? he didn't even know who he was, walaahi the nga is living his life, maybe I should cut the cord as well.
TheLand
VIP
No, we are just black Africans who somehow believe we arenβt
Abu Hesi
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our politics reminds me of this show, bunch of xayawaan turkic tribes fighting each other
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