Netflix are putting out a documentary about the black hawk dawn incident.

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

I will never understand how a non-USC affiliated Somali gives an iota of damn about how those thugs are portrayed in Black Hawk Down. How are you riding for the same criminal group that ethnically cleansed your families and made you a refugee??

I don't believe in 'Somalinimo' when it pertains actual war criminals. Those mooryaan are the same ones who launched a surprise attack on unarmed civilians and caused the civil war that Somalia has yet to recover from. A wild orgy of violence. Waa bahalo waalan.

They are NOT heroes. They were rapists, thieves, cowards and uncivilised goons that couldn't even agree with each other on how to form a government to replace the Kacaan. Search their images online, and their true history, before you clutch your pearls on any ACCURATE portrayal of them. Any movie/documentary will not even scratch the surface of how demonic these monsters truly are/were. Walahi if I tell you the things they did during the civil war, you would be traumatised.

Below you can see them, wearing stolen clothes, even hospital uniforms and upending anything that resembled a civilisation.

Go ask your family, who caused you to be a qaxooti, hint (see images below).

"USC Fighter for Aideed and his girlfriend"

 

[TheLand]

I will never understand how a non-USC affiliated Somali gives an iota of damn about how those thugs are portrayed in Black Hawk Down. How are you riding for the same criminal group that ethnically cleansed your families and made you a refugee??

I don't believe in 'Somalinimo' when it pertains actual war criminals. Those mooryaan are the same ones who launched a surprise attack on unarmed civilians and caused the civil war that Somalia has yet to recover from. A wild orgy of violence. Waa bahalo waalan.

They are NOT heroes. They were rapists, thieves, cowards and uncivilised goons that couldn't even agree with each other on how to form a government to replace the Kacaan. Search their images online, and their true history, before you clutch your pearls on any ACCURATE portrayal of them. Any movie/documentary will not even scratch the surface of how demonic these monsters truly are/were. Walahi if I tell you the things they did during the civil war, you would be traumatised.

Below you can see them, wearing stolen clothes, even hospital uniforms and upending anything that resembled a civilisation.

Go ask your family, who caused you to be a qaxooti, hint (see images below).

View attachment 353073View attachment 353074View attachment 353075


"USC Fighter for Aideed and his girlfriend"

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Americans do the same with countless war movies about Iraq and Afghanistan, all where they always play the victim after invading a country and massacring its people.

This is not any different. Just that unlike with Iraq and Afghanistan, many people can’t see through the propaganda when it comes to Somalia with even many Muslims sympathising with the Americans. Nothing as pathetic as seeing Pakistanis and Malaysians drooling for a scrap of recognition from their white masters.

Anyways, hope this motivates young Somalis to tell our own story on a big platform one day inshAllah.

USC didn't just ethnically cleanse people, their violence caused a famine in 1992. Not like America cares but that was the pretext for coming in with the United Nations.

So, if America came in and got into a war with these same raping, robbing, ethnically cleansing thugs, I find it hard to summon any semblance of 'Somalinimo'.


I hope 'Murica wiped out a good number of those thugs.

 

[Xoriyo]

USC didn't just ethnically cleanse people, their violence caused a famine in 1992. Not like America cares but that was the pretext for coming in with the United Nations.

So, if America came in and got into a war with these same raping, robbing, ethnically cleansing thugs, I find it hard to summon any semblance of 'Somalinimo'.


I hope 'Murica wiped out a good number of those thugs.

I get your point about the USC thugs and I have no issue with them trying to take out murderous warlords.

If they had told the story by sticking to the facts and without those racist caricatures, it would be one thing. That I can’t get on board with as ultimately, it impacts us all.

 

[Farahslayer]

USC didn't just ethnically cleanse people, their violence caused a famine in 1992. Not like America cares but that was the pretext for coming in with the United Nations.

So, if America came in and got into a war with these same raping, robbing, ethnically cleansing thugs, I find it hard to summon any semblance of 'Somalinimo'.


I hope 'Murica wiped out a good number of those thugs.

Imagine supporting the US using children as shields just because they’re not from your clan. Disgusting.

 

[Farahslayer]

I get your point about the USC thugs and I have no issue with them trying to take out murderous warlords.

If they had told the story by sticking to the facts and without those racist caricatures, it would be one thing. That I can’t get on board with as ultimately, it impacts us all.

Instead of using your clanmates info. Why don’t you research the facts on wikileaks?

USC were not massacred. It was women and children. People like puntite are the reason why the war never ends. They view ordinary people as defacto militia. Meanwhile send money to their militia.

Bisinka.

 

[Idilinaa]

All those children were actually I believe in dugsi. Some of them as young as three. The Americans would use them as human shields to protect themselves from gunfire. Really sickening.

I wonder if the Americans didn’t come these odays could’ve reached a deal to stop the animosity in xamar. We will never know. Shit like this pisses me off wallahi.

Believe me it's soo much worse than that. They would just gun people at random. Gunning down unarmed people and people praying in-front of tea stand and gunning down dugsi kid's is not exactly defending themselves against violent hordes of Somalis

Even goings so far as lobbing anti-tank missiles from helicopter gunships into a hospital and then claim it never happened despite everyone seeing it ..incredible. There is no use denying it either when there is footage as well.

So when you hear the guy in the trailer say he was happy that the helicopters came down as @Midas pointed out, it was because American Black Hawk pilots consistently made deliberate effort to antagonize Somalis and even assaulted an Associated Press photographer who tried to document it.

Most Somalis don't realize , a lot of the destruction in buildings, houses and even looting was done by US and UN forces. Even the church in Xamar etc were destroyed by them and not even Somali University staff and relatives were safe from their imperious conduct. Aside from the shelling that happened in 2006.

But yeah it there is soo much stuff they did, thats just nuts to read about. I don't see how anyone can ever think they were there for humanitarian peacekeeping reasons.

Also you don't even have to wonder it's 100% due to the American/UN involvement, every region and insurgent group in Somalia had peacebrokers that could settle things and stabilize it after some time like how it happened in Somaliland/Puntland. Even the USC or manifesto group had a moderate faction within it. Usually it was the local traditional elders in connection/cooperation with the moderates and religious leaders. It's also crucial for inter regional reconciliation between families.

What the Americans did was dismantle that by butchering them and it made people rally behind Aidid against them for a moment. In a way that is similar to ICU dismantlement in 2006 when you think about it and people rallied behind AS which was a tiny irrelevant youth group before it.

What @El Nino said is right though Somalis would have been supportive otherwise.

They single-handedly were responsible for increasing the general instability across the southern part of the country and pro-longing a conflict that would have resolved itself from within.

The humanitarian garb of the mission was complete nonsense as well, they came at the end of the crisis/famine when there was decline in human mortality. They just came to butcher, harass and turn Somalia into their favorite playing ground and didn't save anyone.

 

[Hotchick12]

I will never understand how a non-USC affiliated Somali gives an iota of damn about how those thugs are portrayed in Black Hawk Down. How are you riding for the same criminal group that ethnically cleansed your families and made you a refugee??

I don't believe in 'Somalinimo' when it pertains actual war criminals. Those mooryaan are the same ones who launched a surprise attack on unarmed civilians and caused the civil war that Somalia has yet to recover from. A wild orgy of violence. Waa bahalo waalan.

They are NOT heroes. They were rapists, thieves, cowards and uncivilised goons that couldn't even agree with each other on how to form a government to replace the Kacaan. Search their images online, and their true history, before you clutch your pearls on any ACCURATE portrayal of them. Any movie/documentary will not even scratch the surface of how demonic these monsters truly are/were. Walahi if I tell you the things they did during the civil war, you would be traumatised.

Below you can see them, wearing stolen clothes, even hospital uniforms and upending anything that resembled a civilisation.

Go ask your family, who caused you to be a qaxooti, hint (see images below).

View attachment 353073View attachment 353074View attachment 353075


"USC Fighter for Aideed and his girlfriend"

you should be happy that hsm is clearing them out

 

[Idilinaa]

I get your point about the USC thugs and I have no issue with them trying to take out murderous warlords.

If they had told the story by sticking to the facts and without those racist caricatures, it would be one thing. That I can’t get on board with as ultimately, it impacts us all.

Most locals in Xamar on the onset did not support the USC, Aidid and the warlords nor did they actually view them as heroes. So only if they had gone after them and been lenient with the people , they would've have been supportive but they joined them in brutalizing , harrasing local everyday innocent Somalis and there was zero provocations that created it.

They didn't score against the brutal Warlords and the USC , they only served to strengthen and empower them. Americans when they pulled out started to arm and fund those same ones only a few years later through the CIA.

All in all. It's not their job to tell our story nor are they incentivized to do it, it goes against their interests. We need to stop expecting ajanabis to represent us the way we want and because it's not their lived experience and they don't have our sensibilities to do it. They can only speak from their own vantage point which omits what they inflict on others but only embellishes and emphasizes what happens to them in return and are further limited/simplified by their lack of knowledge.

We need to research, document, share and tell our story and most importantly to other Somalis, what is eventually shared to the world is only secondary extension of it. The responsibility lies on us.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

They need to make Aideed cool af in this movie at least. The African warlord Joker.

And this is coming from a Darood

 

[Xassan]

When black hawk down happened. The amerongolians should have been ripped to shreds wallahi. They were so traumatized they make movies about black hawk down 30+ years later. And its pathetic too, they make theirselves out to be the heros. Why were they in a market in Mogadishu, instead of fighting on a frontline? Just reading the comments of any black hawk down video, its filled with brain dead patriotism for massacring a mob of rightfully angry civillians for no reason.

 

[Interested]

Instead of using your clanmates info. Why don’t you research the facts on wikileaks?

USC were not massacred. It was women and children. People like puntite are the reason why the war never ends. They view ordinary people as defacto militia. Meanwhile send money to their militia.

Bisinka.

Sometimes I feel we do not speak up enough against these guys on this site. Always good to seek people sticking to facts against these clan rhetorics.

Like how are you in your 20s having this kind of fadhi kudirir mindset on serious issues like infidels invading & killing fellow muslims and somalis.

Seen quite the lot of them defending the 2006 Ethiopian invasion. Nacala.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Imagine supporting the US using children as shields just because they’re not from your clan. Disgusting.

LOL

At which point did I mention children being used a shields? My post pertained USC goons who were the ones fighting in that area.

Moreover, children were also killed and raped in 1991, or do your sympathies only work in 1993 or whenever else your people are affected.

Disgusting.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Sometimes I feel we do not speak up enough against these guys on this site. Always good to seek people sticking to facts against these clan rhetorics.

Like how are you in your 20s having this kind of fadhi kudirir mindset on serious issues like infidels invading & killing fellow muslims and somalis.

Seen quite the lot of them defending the 2006 Ethiopian invasion. Nacala.

Nacala back to you. The one whose empathy only works in 1993 and 2006.

 

[Bari]

Some users on this site are acting like USC Warlords were fighting for the Haqq and Tawheed.

 

[Interested]

Nacala back to you. The one whose empathy only works in 1993 and 2006.

Walaahi Never insult a clan on here. My views are consistent, that Somalia should be ruled by one unit and by the sheria. Im against anyone who is against that.

Lost close family relatives during the invasion. My siblings displaced..above that many muslims died. Do you think they were fighting for Hawiye?
Imagine seeing you lot defending that injustice on here just because the president then was MJ.

 

[Interested]

Some users on this site are acting like USC Warlords were fighting for the Haqq and Tawheed.

There was an Islamic faction fighting alongside USC. Read up instead of frequenting the FKD section