i wonder why our ancient ancestors adopted afro asiatic instead of the nilotic languageThese guys are the Anatolian Turks of the Nilotic language family. Don't fit with the rest of the language family.
Would be funny if Somalis spoke a Nilo-Saharan language, yet still looked like modern Somalis.
New Nubian genetic study [Christian Early Medieval Period]
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The alchemist
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Hopefully, we get G25 cords on these people.
Apollo
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Nubians were originally Afro-Asiatic (cousins of the Beja) but lost their language to some tribe related to the Nara from Eritrea who conquered some proto-Bejas. My Suugo theory.
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do you think all somalis absorbed any amount of eurasian ancestry from arabia or is it all strictly from our cushitic ancestors?Nubians were originally Afro-Asiatic (cousins of the Beja) but lost their language to some tribe related to the Nara from Eritrea who conquered some proto-Bejas. My Suugo theory.
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Apollo
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Somalis did not exist when that stuff happened. It is something inherent in all Cushitic people.
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It doesn't matter so much, since most people would think of Anatolians when they hear the word "Turk":These guys are the Anatolian Turks of the Nilotic language family. Don't fit with the rest of the language family.
Would be funny if Somalis spoke a Nilo-Saharan language, yet still looked like modern Somalis.
Turkish people have successfully made themselves the face of Turkic identity.
yea i know all cushitic groups have eurasian admixture im asking if we as somalis absorbed any additional eurasian ancestry via arabians like the habeshas did
Bejas and Nubians are genetically similar (basically identical) and look the same. No one in Sudan can distinguish the two, but if you think you can then tell me who's Nubian and who's Beja:
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Not in a widespread way like what happened with Habeshas, only in individual cases.
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Are Beja people happy with being part of Sudan?Bejas and Nubians are genetically similar (basically identical) and look the same. No one in Sudan can distinguish the two, but if you think you can then tell me who's Nubian and who's Beja:
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Soon there gon be oromos in somaliweyn
Yes, the president of Eritrea tried to fund rebels to make Sudan landlocked like Ethiopia but failed since they couldn't gain a large following. Bejas are historically high-class like Nubians and Sudanese Arabs so they run many important industries. They are not marginalized by the government, in fact some Beja towns and cities look even better than Khartoum - speaking of Khartoum, it was the Beja that nearly defeated the British to protect the capital.
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I said ancient ethnicities who already were settled there centuries ago, not migrants like Oromos or even Benadiris. That's less interesting than having stuff like Nubians, Beja, Saho, Bilen, Tigre etc
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It doesn't matter so much, since most people would think of Anatolians when they hear the word "Turk":
Turkish people have successfully made themselves the face of Turkic identity.
If Somalis spoke a Nilo-Saharan language and with the caveat of still looking exactly like Somalis today, I doubt we would have joined the Arab League. What do you say?
View attachment 171890Nubian royal cemeteries in el-kurru show that they depicted themselves using a reddish hue.
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Plus the ezana stone speaks of a red population fighting a black one.
On the Ezana Stone, who are the black and red people that the Ethiopian king was referring to?
On the Ezana stone, the Axumite (modern day Ethiopia) king wrote in Ge'ez, Sabaean and Greek to describe his victory over the Kasu (Kushites) and Nuba (Nubians). He mentions the black and red peop...history.stackexchange.com
Nubians have enslaved Nilotics and used them as soldiers even going into relatively modern history. There was aversion even until recently in having children with Nilotic concubines.
Modern Nubians might have an aversion to having children with Nilotes/Nilo-Saharans but the fact remains that the indigenous language of the Nubians belongs to the same language family as the Nuba of Jabal Al Nuba. The Nilo-Saharans ancestors of the Nubians obviously assimilated the people they conquered when they settled in Southern Egypt and Northern Sudan. They might discriminate against those with more 'negroid' features today but isn't it ironic that their historical elites, ethnic identity and language was inherited from Charcoal Black Sudanic people?
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The Nilo-Saharans who conquered them probably looked like the Nara of Eritrea who are very likely Nilo-Cushites instead of full blood Nilotes.
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Not to derail the thread about this weird research outcome with Christian Nubians, but I made the Toubou fella with the uniparental I posted recently get G25 cords. MY quick modeling told me he was mostly Nilo Saharan with minor West African (totally ~68% SSA), and the rest North African, preferring pristine Early Neolithic and Late Neolithic MAR proxies over modern population with some minor Tunisian on scaled. With unscaled, I got a nice fit, but instead of Tunisian, it was Levantine Middle-Late Bronze Age and no West African. I used all the Sudanese samples in this one.
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