Oromo State annexes Somali lands.
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GaradShabeel
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They are making the assumption that they will still be allowed to join Oromia without having direct land attached to it. The referendum from 2004 created enclaves inside DDS. So, already as it is today do Oromos have to cross Somali land to reach their enclaves, the same will happen there.
Who are guilt-tripping Isaaqs? What Somalinimo are you talking about that is used against them? If you're making up, at least be upfront.
Yes, some hawiye land did end up with Oromia. Even though some of the locals voted for Oromia, there were flawed referendums which didn't depict the result according to the wishes of the locals (those who were against). Subsequent procedures lead to their land being handed over to Oromia.
As far as Cisses, besides a small shared land that they live in Mieso and extended areas that went with Oromia, most of their land are either in Sitti and Dire Dawa.
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GaradShabeel
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Djibouti is a shithole that once had a lower HDI than Afghanistan.
Muh Tarud.
I was just making the reference that we are connected to Cissa land without having to cross Oromia and Samaroon (if they were to join Oromia), and thereby access to Djibouti port instead of Berbera port as the guy above mentioned.
This is without including having access to Garaacad soon, as well as Bosaso and other ports in Somalia in the near future.
And Cisses will definitely not join Oromia under any circumstances, regardless of what some users here think
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You are decendent of dubats talking about siding your people were happy when the habesha came to xamar
"Recovered"
Geri have their Absame brothers riding for them, you should ride for your Dir brothers in Sitti instead of hating on the Daroods that protect them.You cry Somalinimo but it doesn't mean that you believe in it. It's a tool you've utilised for far too long.
Absame are the ones who signed off land in West Sitti to Afar state in the first place.
This whole thread is basically Darood repeating the same trope warning Sameroon about the Oromo boggyman, appealing to Somalinimo. You got empty words like traitor or unity thrown around here lol this tactic would never work with Isaaq. Hoyadiin iyo Somalinimadina wasse. We are trying to break away from Somalis in Somalia, might as well go the extra yard and separate from Somali region in Ethiopia.
What a bummer. However if Sameroon can join Oromo as enclave then so we. Good bless the great Oromo nation.
I guess you missed the memo. One of our MPs got 364k votes which outnumbers the entirety of PL twice over.Harti population vs samaroonView attachment 276264
This numbers from 1951I guess you missed the memo. One of our MPs got 364k votes which outnumbers the entirety of PL twice over.
Never forget who put them in that predicament. It's only right they lay down their souls.
Addis Standard
I'll let the DDS brothers debunk this
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Go on show me I dare you. Show me the dubats and my clan.
Show me Murusade being happy with Habesha in Mogadishu
I’m waiting!
Debunk what bro
. That is what happened and it was reported by Addis Standard.GaradShabeel
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Internet ain't real life, and warning about Oromos is only based on the experience of the people/clans you're appealing to, who previously joined Oromia. If you can't handle it, that's up to you
Also, you are acting like every clan/sub-clan aren't already going after their own interests, i.e. the complete opposite of Somalinimo. So, cut the bs and keep it moving.
GaradShabeel
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Bro, don't tell me that you don't know what transpired and lead to that 'agreement', which was pressured on him by the Addis gov't, to which even the locals themselves recognize. Abdi Iley still enjoys support amongst many of them till this day. What does that tell you?
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It tells me an Absame sold off their land.Bro, don't tell me that you don't know what transpired and lead to that 'agreement', which was pressured on him, and even the locals themselves recongnize. Abdi Iley still enjoys support amongst many of them. What does that tell you?
The concession Illey granted to Afar done through TPLF is the reason why Ciise are in the predicament they are in today.
That is why Cagjar tried to reverse what was done and withdrew from that agreement which he deemed illegal in 2019 which sparked a border conflict in 2020. If Ciise supported Iley and wanted that agreement to stick then why did Cagjar try to withdraw from it?
No matter how you put it, it's Absame to blame. Simple as.
GaradShabeel
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It tells me an Absame sold off their land.
The concession Illey granted to Afar done through TPLF is the reason why Ciise are in the predicament they are in today.
That is why Cagjar tried to reverse what was done and tried to withdrew from that agreement in 2019 which sparked a border conflict in 2020. If Ciise supported Iley and wanted that agreement to stick then why did Cagjar try to withdraw from it?
No matter how you put it, it's Absame to blame. Simple as.
You've mixed it up.
Cisse supported Abdi Iley (with regards to his stance on Sitti), but not the agreement he was forced to sign. It was done against Abdi Iley's will by the TPLF-led gov't.
If Abdi Iley did it willingly, why didn't he hand over the land to the Afar region? Because it never happened.
And no, the conflicts did not start 2020 either. It started way before when the entire country descended into chaos around 2018. To which Iley responded by sending armed forces, and defending all Somali inhabited land, especially in Sitti. The Afars never managed to get a single inch of that land under his rule.
To make it clear, the disputes has existed since the 90s. It would've continue today whether the agreement happened or not. Look at the rest of the borders that DDS shares with Oromia. There are border disputes everywhere, despite the fact that there were referendums there. You can ask the same question here.
Afars only took advantage of the power vaccum when Cagjar took over. Despite revoking the agreement, Cagjar was at first hesitant to send forces there during fightings, but the locals managed to keep the land by themselves. It was only during the Tigray war with external help, that Afars captured most of the disputed lands.
Here you have a local guy who knows a lot, corroborating what I said, even he don't blame Abdi Illey/Absame. This is not an uncommon viewpoint either.
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Was he active around the late 60s and 70s? My awoowe was in the Djiboutian army around that time aswell. He came from Ali sabieh.
