"Otherwise we'll have to go to war" - Somaliland FM

[SecretAgent]

Somaliland is run by people nobody voted for amina waris xaashi bashe morgan they took 8% of the port deal.

 

[Near]

I don't think option 1 of resource/political power sharing 50/50 will ever happen because Somalia has about 10million ppl where as SL has 2million it wouldn't be fair, I would say 25/75 split

Look at it like this. What is the incentive for SL to rejoin the south? They control 100% of their resources right now, why would they give up more than half when they are in a good negotiating position? It's a necessary cost for reunification.

50/50 power sharing is non-negotiable for reunification. It's really quite simple if the president is from the south, the prime minister must be from the north, and vice versa. This is necessary to build trust, as people need to feel like they have a voice in government. Otherwise you will see new rebel movements pop up and the same destabilization occur all over again. A lot of countries practice regional power sharing in Africa and Asia so it's not an unprecedented model at all.

 

[horumar]

I don't think option 1 of resource/political power sharing 50/50 will ever happen because Somalia has about 10million ppl where as SL has 2million it wouldn't be fair, I would say 25/75 split

The population of the Republic of Somaliland is over 4 million, which makes the population of Somalia roughly 8 million. There is no way it will be 50-50, regional representation matters the most.

 

[Lordilord]

No disrespect to our southern brothers but Somaliland is more than capable of defending itself. Hopefully it doesn't get to that point..

 

[TheWeekday]

@waraabe is attacking everyone but the HY kkkkkk he wants to divert the attention to isaaq versus Darood/Hawiye. This is a battle that you have to fight on your own sacsac boy

Dhabacayo shouldn't you be crying about Sacad HG.

Maliin walba you cry about how they karbash you and how much you fear them.

Didn't you say something along the line "I wish we never had them as neighbours"

Dhabacayo doesn't know how to rule hence your broke pirate state and neither does he know how to defend himself.Dont worry about Isaaq internal beef.Worry about yourself nayaa

 

[DrippinglyWet]

Look at it like this. What is the incentive for SL to rejoin the south? They control 100% of their resources right now, why would they give up more than half when they are in a good negotiating position? It's a necessary cost for reunification.

50/50 power sharing is non-negotiable for reunification. It's really quite simple if the president is from the south, the prime minister must be from the north, and vice versa. This is necessary to build trust, as people need to feel like they have a voice in government. Otherwise you will see new rebel movements pop up and the same destabilization occur all over again. A lot of countries practice regional power sharing in Africa and Asia so it's not an unprecedented model at all.

Would a Gadabuursi or Dhullo prime minister suffice, they are both from the north.

 

[merka]

Look at it like this. What is the incentive for SL to rejoin the south? They control 100% of their resources right now, why would they give up more than half when they are in a good negotiating position? It's a necessary cost for reunification.

50/50 power sharing is non-negotiable for reunification. It's really quite simple if the president is from the south, the prime minister must be from the north, and vice versa. This is necessary to build trust, as people need to feel like they have a voice in government. Otherwise you will see new rebel movements pop up and the same destabilization occur all over again. A lot of countries practice regional power sharing in Africa and Asia so it's not an unprecedented model at all.

I don't think 50/50 power sharing won't work in the long term. It'll only cause resentment between regions since some regions will get more than others.

I honestly don't see why Somalia would have a problem with an independent Somaliland. They can have good relations and cooperate with each other on security and economic issues.

 

[XamarCade]

Look at it like this. What is the incentive for SL to rejoin the south? They control 100% of their resources right now, why would they give up more than half when they are in a good negotiating position? It's a necessary cost for reunification.

50/50 power sharing is non-negotiable for reunification. It's really quite simple if the president is from the south, the prime minister must be from the north, and vice versa. This is necessary to build trust, as people need to feel like they have a voice in government. Otherwise you will see new rebel movements pop up and the same destabilization occur all over again. A lot of countries practice regional power sharing in Africa and Asia so it's not an unprecedented model at all.

I have no problem having a Issaq PM or a Issaq President, resource sharing should be distributed by population size, that's how a developed nations work

 

[TheWeekday]

As for the HY traitors like Duke iyo Prince Abubu.They will be shot on site in their 12 hut village and we will have their black ass odayaal begging for peace.

This ain't the 90s we have an army and the largest SM clan JB will be ever present all over the country and CG will not accept your Garxajis crying card.You will be alone.

We will destroy your villages and will hand over wells/grazing lands to Pro-SL clans

You will also be banished from Berbera iyo Hargeisa

 

[XamarCade]

The population of the Republic of Somaliland is over 4 million, which makes the population of Somalia roughly 8 million. There is no way it will be 50-50, regional representation matters the most.

Really there's more money and resources than the whole Somali population in both regions, if it's handled properly and fairly everyone eats good, SL leaders and Somalia leaders need to come to the table to at least discuss this, if referendum is what SL wants then u can scrap the meeting cause Somalia will never allow it, all u gotta do after that is pray for the IC to recognize yall.

 

[Near]

Would a Gadabuursi or Dhullo prime minister suffice, they are both from the north.

Absolutely they would. The only thing I meant by north was culturally and geographically (traditionally live in the north).

The following communites would be classified as "Waqooyi" and the post would be rotated amongst the following clans proportionally:

Isaaq (Habar Awal, Habar Yoonis, Cidagale, Habar Jeclo, Arap & Ayup)

Northern Daarod (Dhulbahante & Warsangeli)

Northern Dir (Issa, Gadabuursi, Akisho, Magaadle & Madigaan)

Minorities (Tumaal, Gabooye & Madhiban)

 

[horumar]

Really there's more money and resources than the whole Somali population in both regions, if it's handled properly and fairly everyone eats good, SL leaders and Somalia leaders need to come to the table to at least discuss this, if referendum is what SL wants then u can scrap the meeting cause Somalia will never allow it, all u gotta do after that is pray for the IC to recognize yall.

There is hardly any good leadership in Africa, Botswana is an exception but Somalis being the most primitive, and I mean that for all Somalis, it will not work out without corruption or rigging involved.

There was a referendum in Somaliland, in 2001, but it was rejected by the AU and co. Somalia can never produce such amazing leadership. The last great Somali leader died over a decade ago, AUN.

We will never join Somalia, if that means we will stay unrecognised like this for another century and there is no alternative, so be it.

 

[Gilgamesh]

Did anyone even read the article?

And if they want to exert what they may call their right to rule Somaliland from Mogadishu, then we will fight them and you will have a war.

What's wrong with that statement? If the Amisom protectorate government thinks they can
attempt to rule us by force then of course there will be war.

Nothing is said about him being the aggressor.

 

[Lordilord]

War is only an option when Somalia starts interfering with Somaliland. If Somalia stays out of Somaliland's internal affairs there will be no war and they will simply wait for recognition like they have been doing now for 26 years.

Somaliland has been on its own since they claimed independence so why would that change now all of a sudden? Somalia needs Somaliland and it's not the other way around.

Times are different and it's not like it was in the last war. Currently the largest standing army in all Somali regions belong to Somaliland not even that but it's larger than all regions combined by a couple of times. Also it's not like all regions would cooperate against Somaliland since they have their own issues to handle.

It would be detrimental to all regions if there was a war. We would be put so many years behind, not worth it at all. Hopefully the government of Somalia have some reason.

 

[waraabe]

@waraabe is attacking everyone but the HY kkkkkk he wants to divert the attention to isaaq versus Darood/Hawiye. This is a battle that you have to fight on your own sacsac boy

I don't need to fight my brothers because of half breeds


When you come to free your cousins I will be waiting in lascanod

 

[XamarCade]

There is hardly any good leadership in Africa, Botswana is an exception but Somalis being the most primitive, and I mean that for all Somalis, it will not work out without corruption or rigging involved.

There was a referendum in Somaliland, in 2001, but it was rejected by the AU and co. Somalia can never produce such amazing leadership. The last great Somali leader died over a decade ago, AUN.

We will never join Somalia, if that means we will stay unrecognised like this for another century and there is no alternative, so be it.

Good, now stop crying for war

 

[Ridig Rabah]

WTF is going on here, 5pages deep about North considering war on Somalia,.....folks there is no North its only isaaq considering war on the Rest of other Somalis, truly a funny gesture since they (the isaaqs) couldnt even beat down an unarmed (lions) Dhulbahantes for the past 70-80+ years.



kkkkk isaaqs want to go to war against Hawiye let alone all Somalis, i guess dhulo's karbaash must be swift in KO cause these fools are dreaming........

 

[horumar]

independency

:siilaanyolaugh:

You are right mr dhulbahante, once other Somali regions start prospering, they will refute any sort of unity! political, at least.

WTF is going on here, 5pages deep about North considering war on Somalia,.....folks there is no North its only isaaq considering war on the Rest of other Somalis, truly a funny gesture since they (the isaaqs) couldnt even beat down an unarmed (lions) Dhulbahantes for the past 70-80+ years.



kkkkk isaaqs want to go to war against Hawiye let alone all Somalis, i guess dhulo's karbaash must be swift in KO cause these fools are dreaming........

Your country is at war with Alshabab, beat them, fix your situation, then gain independence from AMISOM, then think about Somaliland.

 

[Lordilord]

Good, now stop crying for war

Saaxib it would not be us who would be crying if a war broke out.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

The population of the Republic of Somaliland is over 4 million, which makes the population of Somalia roughly 8 million. There is no way it will be 50-50, regional representation matters the most.

Where the f*ck are the 4 million people? Don't be delusional. Somaliland+Puntland is not even 30 % of the population of koonfur, let alone Awdal + Waqooyi Galbeed+ 2/3rds of Toghdeer+1/2 of Sanaag.

If you think that 1.5-2 million people will get 50 % of everything when there are 10+ million people in the rest of Somalia, then you're insane.