PL Citizens Warn Of A Harti War Over Abudwaaq

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Nothing was handed to my family, they worked for it bruv, you seem to think hard work is haram.

The amount of ppl who benefited under siyad is millions even the leaders u like r products of siyad barre. It's hypocritical to turn on those who helped so many. Siyad didn't care for preferences and created national exam and its up to you succeed not cry im being persecuted cause u were to dumb and rise up qabyalad movements.

Their no hand out bruvs which is what the low class Somalis like hsm were, second rates in a proper meritocracy. HSM couldn't perform in a proper meritocracy under siyad national exam notice he doesn't mention it, he used to sit there cooking up conspiracy theories in Bermuda area of hamar lol. I despise ppl like that try to acting like their is qabyalad only because they didn't perform and wanted something they weren't even suitable for.

if you want success do what your good at bruv, don't go seek roles for prestige and nonsensical crap. Their was this dude my father had to fail cause his mathamatics were poor when he was sent to bosaso by siyad literacy program. My dad met him decades later and his multi millionaire and my dad said see it worked out for u, but if he would've overlooked his poor mathamatic and he entered those fields which need it, he would've failed anyways.

Meritocracy is best system and siyad is the father of it.

So, in your estimation, Siyad Barre practised meritocracy? And you father / family benefited due to their proficiency and hard work? And the tens of thousands, who had been persecuted, subjugated, slaughtered under his rule, had performed below bar due to their lack of proficiency and sound work ethic? Did I capture the sentiment of your reasoning right?

Definition:
Meritocracy, political, social, or economic system in which individuals are assigned to positions of power, influence, or reward solely on the basis of their abilities and achievements and not on the basis of their social, cultural, or economic background or irrelevant personal characteristics.

Meritocracy represents a rejection of hereditary aristocracy and nepotism.

 

[DR OSMAN]

So, in your estimation, Siyad Barre practised meritocracy? And you father / family benefited due to their proficiency and hard work? And the tens of thousands, who had been persecuted, subjugated, slaughtered under his rule, had performed below bar due to their lack of proficiency and sound work ethic? Did I capture the sentiment of your reasoning right?

Definition:
Meritocracy, political, social, or economic system in which individuals are assigned to positions of power, influence, or reward solely on the basis of their abilities and achievements and not on the basis of their social, cultural, or economic background or irrelevant personal characteristics.

Meritocracy represents a rejection of hereditary aristocracy and nepotism.

Listen bruv siyad set up national.exams after secondary school, ppl were assigned to various roles depending on their results which is a meritocracy which even chinese still use such system, it was about separating the 1% in our society who r gifted and deserve it plus can contribute to the nation's success, lots were also sent to scholarships depending on their results.

Ask any somali no matter clan if im bullshitting, history is written bro, u can't erase it or re interpret it as ppl will laugh at you and say they were there or have first generation account of history.

What happened was those who couldn't succeed started up tribal movements trying to say siyad was tribal because they were simply unsuitable and failed their tests.

Why you think HSM never talks about his national exam.scores under siyad but the true 1% families of that era know the truth, he was incompetent second rates not just him.but many from.across.many.clans who then cooked up qabyalad movements against siyad barre who was ruling based on a meritocracy and they couldn't survive on ability and resorted to qabyalad and created those rebel.movements on siyad, siyad didn't create qabyalad they did the second rate thugs across all.clans who simply.couldnt prove their ability.in national.testing.

You can go and fool puntitequeen with your crap ima live n die a siyadist just.like.millions who could survive on a meritocracy and didn't need to resort to qabyalad. ,


@TekNiKo @Dalalos_ibn_Adali

I will.always be loyal.to siyad barre not due to.clan but how he set up a.meritocracy and millions of.ppl who could.perform and showed it in.their national.exam.results would.also.meet.other 1% of other.clans and then would grow even further untill those stupid thug rebel.failures did a qabyalad Durban knowing they were being left behind and successful.ppl across all.clans.would.meet up.and create.greatness for the nation as a whole.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Listen bruv siyad set up national.exams after secondary school, ppl were assigned to various roles depending on their results which is a meritocracy which even chinese still use such system, it was about separating the 1% in our society who r gifted and deserve it plus can contribute to the nation's success, lots were also sent to scholarships depending on their results.

Ask any somali no matter clan if im bullshitting, history is written bro, u can't erase it or re interpret it as ppl will laugh at you and say they were there or have first generation account of history.

What happened was those who couldn't succeed started up tribal movements trying to say siyad was tribal because they were simply unsuitable and failed their tests.

It is as if you are saying despite all the horrors Siyad and his regime (it was not just one clan or few families) had visited upon the nation, exams were fair. In other words, all the fine, educated young men, elite military officers, technocrats at all levels of govt institutions, aspiring engineers and doctors, who had been, at wanton, imprisoned, assassinated, exiled, and disappeared ONLY on the basis of their clan affiliation were incompetent, thus their punishment was justifiable?

And the nepotism where his cronies, lackeys, and their families, who go rich, cushy jobs, ambassadorial postings etc., all on the back of the nation, had been rewarded on the basis of their being the cream of the nation.

Here is test to weight your argument: on one side of the scale, there were 'fair' secondary school exams for all versus death, destruction, pillaging, literally raping the nation (I do not use that word lightly - by the way, what we see today in .So in Siyad;s legacy). Which side weighs heavier?

Manufacturing under the Fuhrer grew 100 folds in Germany. Industrialisation and farming under Stalin grew at unimaginable rate. Economy under Musalini skyrocketed.

Considering their legacy, do you consider said men were practising meritocracy?

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

@DR OSMAN Darood unity is paramount, every Darood subclan is proudly independent but there are some ventures where we need team work. I believe we have far too many things in common that we can unite around, the minor areas where we differ can be overlooked.

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

Exactly.
Maxaa naga galay Dir vs Marehan.

Dr Osman is Kacaanist and he is MJ, while I am Marehan and I am anti-Kacaanist. Where me and Dr Osman agree is Daroodism, and that doesn't mean we agree on everything.

Also if you don't care about Reer Dalal fighting against Irir Samaale nobody asked you to care, but your support for the Sharanshuur is intolerable maba xishooneysid.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Also if you don't care about Reer Dalal fighting against Irir Samaale nobody asked you to care, but your support for the Sharanshuur is intolerable maba xishooneysid.

 

[DR OSMAN]

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Dr Osman is Kacaanist and he is MJ, while I am Marehan and I am anti-Kacaanist. Where me and Dr Osman agree is Daroodism, and that doesn't mean we agree on everything.

Also if you don't care about Reer Dalal fighting against Irir Samaale nobody asked you to care, but your support for the Sharanshuur is intolerable maba xishooneysid.

Don't give much weight to @Libaax-Joore
his reer jubaland and has personal issues over the 90s and puntitequeen is bicidyahan they.live with ogadens. Our king has spoken and so have locals, the reality is if sade needs reinforcement on these irir thugs ganging up on them it will happen. These non political ppl think political difference means tribal difference, don't listen to them, their naive. Their is a tribal.war happening not a war of politics and puntland will side with sade.

@Dalalos_ibn_Adali

I don't blame u being anti kacaan your clan helped.millions of Somalis either in wealth, education,.scholarships and a meritocracy and they turn around saying your awoowe is responsible for civil war when the reality is siyad targetted noone who wasn't disturbing the meritocracy system.which leaders at the time or their kids failed national exams and were seeing other gifted kids all.meeting up and leaving behind the old qabyalad order. I even don't have patience.for them and rarely argue with them. Siyad went qabyalad in the 80s when he saw the qabyalad national.exam.student failures joining rebel.groups it wasn't him who brought it. Siyad is the greatest man and I think.many feel.guilty cause noone has come.close.to.match him.30 years infact.maybe in 100 years still.noone.will.come.close and sade.marehan will.be worshipped.

 

[Libaax-Joore]

You must have me confused with someone else, I quit FKD back on the other site, almost exclusively against psycho landers btw, but quit this forum when they went ban happy and got rid of half the OG users.


Abti Morgan made a terrible mistake and stabbed us in the back while we were dealing with Al-Itixaad but was taught a very necessary lesson, now he's back with his family

Today his with his tol house of majerteenia 🫡 long life general morgan

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Dalalos_ibn_Adali

I don't know whats wrong with puntitequeen, we siyadist negiotated the bosaso port and bosaso to garowe road and its electricity plants under siyad when ssdf leader abdilahi yusuf was arrested by menguistu who even yey said f*ck Ethiopia and praised siyad.

We the first rate families who could survive in siyad meritocracy ensured concessions were given to ssdf when they demobilised, if it wasn't for us the little PL had from somalinimo would never have happened but she follows this loser @Libaax-Joore whose adeer was angry his kids failed national exam and started political rebellion on siyad cause his kids had bidhe suldan fufu braincells.

Imagine that mind f*ck its the kacanist mj who left a positive legacy for PL yet she supports libaax who left nothing but dead bodies.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Nobody is seeing the parallels between the flight embargo on Marehan, and what Siad Barre and Farmaajo did to people? Didn't Farmaajo ban planes from going to Kismaayo?

Something I have noticed about Kacaanists, they don't seem to notice when other clans are being abused by governments/government power, but only see and feel pain when it is them that are affected.

Will Kacaanists learn empathy?

Will they protest the next time a government targets another clan?

Find out next episode, on 'Hunger Games: Galmudug'.

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

@Dalalos_ibn_Adali

I don't know whats wrong with puntitequeen, we siyadist negiotated the bosaso port and bosaso to garowe road and its electricity plants under siyad when ssdf leader abdilahi yusuf was arrested by menguistu who even yey said f*ck Ethiopia and praised siyad.

We the first rate families who could survive in siyad meritocracy ensured concessions were given to ssdf when they demobilised, if it wasn't for us the little PL had from somalinimo would never have happened but she follows this loser @Libaax-Joore whose adeer was angry his kids failed national exam and started political rebellion on siyad cause his kids had bidhe suldan fufu braincells.

Imagine that mind f*ck its the kacanist mj who left a positive legacy for PL yet she supports libaax who left nothing but dead bodies.

Instead of blaming each other we should move forward and realise in 2024 Hutus are back at it again pillaging Somalia, today is no different from Caydiid days infact it is worse because HSM isn't being sanctioned.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Instead of blaming each other we should move forward and realise in 2024 Hutus are back at it again pillaging Somalia, today is no different from Caydiid days infact it is worse because HSM isn't being sanctioned.

Their one thing I won't entertain rewriting, erasing, twisting history for history is written and I don't tolerate ppl acting like siyad was bad if he was so bad the nation still survives on his legacy, he never developed marehan region showing how serious he was on somalinimo and I understand why u fed up with Somalis as ur awoowe bent over backwards to see their success.

He set up a meritocracy national exam where millions of Somalis based on talent and results would be rewarded, none of this existed under SYL, they gave opportunities to qoys like hsm is copying today which will just lead another siyad to take advantage at an angry ppl. You can't give your tol or qoys something they don't deserve, they will fail in the end anyways, it's a futile strategy.

As for puntitequeen she can insult marehan post 91 I don't care but siyad Is holy to millions who benefited under his rule and the greatest leader this nation has seen and will ever see. What makes me furious is how they twist he started qabyalad, he didn't start coups or rebel movement he only responded to their somali diid behaviours, and wallahi the ppl who started it were the ones who had kids who didn't make it in national exam.meritocracy which opportunist clannish took advantage of and mobilised.

Till today if you ever see a somali politician ask him what was he under somali meritocracy govt, watch silence bruv, the nation is led by the second rates today as the ppl who did succeed don't want to stain themselves there. No joke as for HSM, the dude used to be unemployed and playing games outside a bakaar in hamar Bermuda neighbourhood, his well known, not only a second rate but a total bum who couldn't survive in a meritocracy.

 

[Hilmaam]