Puntland calls their MP Somalia to come back to Garowe!!

[Malsi]

The Majeerteen Sultanate wanted to invade Harar and sent 900 rifles to Geri Koombe. We always had issues with the Ethiopians.

We did, but none of our forefathers fought them in a battle field.

I believe Puntland as a whole can fend off its enemies like it did in past history.

But this whole notion that we need other folks that historically weren't part of Warsangeli, Mijirtinia, or Hobyo to help/protect us is untrue.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

We did, but none of our forefathers fought them in a battle field.

I believe Puntland as a whole can fend off its enemies like it did in past history.

But this whole notion that we need other folks that historically weren't part of Warsangeli, Mijirtinia, or Hobyo to help/protect us is untrue.

Our forefathers did fight Ethiopians, have you not heard of Futuh Al Habesha for example where Harti were involved?

I was a proponent for Puntland to leave, but it's not that simple.

 

[Malsi]

Another question to Puntlanders. What's the point of the current government calling the MP's back if the government itself doesn't recognize the current Southern Somali government.

 

[MuseGuud]

The Majeerteen Sultanate wanted to invade Harar and sent 900 rifles to Geri Koombe. We always had issues with the Ethiopians.

I don't see Ethiopia as our enemies. We need to do business with them. We literally built Garacad to gain customers from Ethiopia, And if Ethiopia attacked Puntland, Do you really believe the South would die for you.
They have their own problems to deal with mainly AS.

 

[Malsi]

Our forefathers did fight Ethiopians, have you not heard of Futuh Al Habesha for example where Harti were involved?

I was a proponent for Puntland to leave, but it's not that simple.

Harti yes, but I'm not talking about the clans but the kingdoms, and Sultanate as a functioning states.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Harti yes, but I'm not talking about the clans but the kingdoms, and Sultanate as a functioning states.

We have no choice but to fight them, remember that Ethiopia props up SNM, whose intention is to steal land. They divide and conquer Somalis on all levels, because we distrust and hate each other more than anything else.

 

[Malsi]

@Puntite your correct on the forefathers part but I wasn't clear on my argument. All I am saying is, East Africa could be like the middle east. Somalis can live in harmony if every region minded it's own business and Puntland buried Yasin Haji Osmans dreams.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

@Puntite your correct on the forefathers part but I wasn't clear on my argument. All I am saying is, East Africa could be like the middle east. Somalis can live in harmony if every region minded it's own business and Puntland buried Yasin Haji Osmans dreams.

Remember when the ICU 'Islamists' wanted to invade Puntland and we even fought of Dahir Aweys's dabadhilifs? These people will never mind their own business, never, they are as obsessed with ruling our land without our consent, as Ethiopia is obsessed with stealing our land. We are stuck between Mooryaans and Ethiopians.

 

[Malsi]

We have no choice but to fight them, remember that Ethiopia props up SNM, whose intention is to steal land. They divide and conquer Somalis on all levels, because we distrust and hate each other more than anything else.

Adeer I am from a generation that was wasted on. I don't have any intentions of raising my kids on some fantasy called Somalinimo.

On the SNM issue, I believe Suldan Siciid, Boqor Burhaan, and the other elders need to sit down again and come up with a plane to settle:

1. Move on from Somalila/Somaliland.
2. Move to 1m1v where the MS controls everything can be debunked.
3. Give Khatumo an ultimatum.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Adeer I am from a generation that was wasted on. I don't have any intentions of raising my kids on some fantasy called Somalinimo.

On the SNM issue, I believe Suldan Siciid, Boqor Burhaan, and the other elders need to sit down again and come up with a plane to settle:

1. Move on from Somalila/Somaliland.
2. Move to 1m1v where the MS controls everything can be debunked.
3. Give Khatumo an ultimatum.

Adeer, I support any way for us to exit this nightmare, please save us from this cursed hellhole.

I genuinely don't believe Somalia is a 'must', we can live like the Arabs, separate, but have certain agreements. I also don't believe in this paternalistic attitude where Puntland has to keep saving the South. Let them enjoy whatever system they want, even if they want to be ruled by argagaxiso, or some kind of centralised dictatorship. But I promise you one thing, they'll never let Puntland leave without a war, they're obsessed with the fantasy of ruling over us.

 

[Malsi]

Remember when the ICU 'Islamists' wanted to invade Puntland and we even fought of Dahir Aweys's dabadhilifs? These people will never mind their own business, never, they are as obsessed with ruling our land without our consent, as Ethiopia is obsessed with stealing our land. We are stuck between Mooryaans and Ethiopians.

All the points your making is valid. This should give you more reason not to waste time on Hargeysa iyo Mogadishu

You young folks can come up with an answer but this current state leaves Puntland in stagnation.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

All the points your making is valid. This should give you more reason not to waste time on Hargeysa iyo Mogadishu

You young folks can come up with an answer but this current state leaves Puntland in stagnation.

Puntland First!

 

[Malsi]

Adeer, I support any way for us to exit this nightmare, please save us from this cursed hellhole.

I genuinely don't believe Somalia is a 'must', we can live like the Arabs, separate, but have certain agreements. I also don't believe in this paternalistic attitude where Puntland has to keep saving the South. Let them enjoy whatever system they want, even if they want to be ruled by argagaxiso, or some kind of centralised dictatorship. But I promise you one thing, they'll never let Puntland leave without a war, they're obsessed with the fantasy of ruling over us.

Absolutely . Afkaada caano lagu shubyey. Illaahey kheyr haku siiyo aduun iyo aakhiro ba.

Adeer qofku haddu marwalba ka shakiyo iyo ku arko that you have alternative motive, you will never win them over.

Haddi mudaaharaad lagu qaado Mw Siciid if he thinks of running for candidacy again in Somalia, I would appreciate qorax joogta but a lot of Puntland's elites live in the west and only come for summer/vacation season.

 

[Malsi]

Puntland First!

Absolutely

 

[FBIsomalia]

Deni did this btw, he selected a bunch of people who he thought would be loyal to him, and they betrayed him, they betrayed their people and the state of Puntland. We need better representation than Deni, we need to raise our standards.

New MPs should be came from parties, not hand select from Deni.

 

[FBIsomalia]

Adeer, I support any way for us to exit this nightmare, please save us from this cursed hellhole.

I genuinely don't believe Somalia is a 'must', we can live like the Arabs, separate, but have certain agreements. I also don't believe in this paternalistic attitude where Puntland has to keep saving the South. Let them enjoy whatever system they want, even if they want to be ruled by argagaxiso, or some kind of centralised dictatorship. But I promise you one thing, they'll never let Puntland leave without a war, they're obsessed with the fantasy of ruling over us.

Why they badly wants to rule us, because of Hobyo and how we rule them .

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Another question to Puntlanders. What's the point of the current government calling the MP's back if the government itself doesn't recognize the current Southern Somali government.

PL should not comply with xamar government directives or allow for it to have oversight of local development projects, no other federal state is subjected to the type of micromanagement and developmental sabotage that PL is.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

PL can block federal troops from entering the state and block even the president from entering, we just have work out a way to cut out xamar as the middleman to aid and investment, pursue absolute autonomy.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Deni did this btw, he selected a bunch of people who he thought would be loyal to him, and they betrayed him, they betrayed their people and the state of Puntland. We need better representation than Deni, we need to raise our standards.

He must’ve known surely, all these “reps” are in it to accrue money through their schemes in xamar, and HSM won’t bat an eyelid as long they do everything he says. We all know this and we’re young people and common folk, now surely the leadership knew too.

loyalty dissolves upon contact with money over there.

 

[Abdisamad]

Deni did this btw, he selected a bunch of people who he thought would be loyal to him, and they betrayed him, they betrayed their people and the state of Puntland. We need better representation than Deni, we need to raise our standards.

Deni also helped get Qoslaye in office..

Before Qoslaye got elected during the elections I remember I was praying for him to not get elected..