Puntland senior minister 'We will continue to act as a sovereign state'

[Coulombs law]

If farmajo doesn't do anything but continues to dismantle the clan enclaves, i will still hail him as one of our best presidents. Down with this phony "federalism"

First off there is no such thing as federalism with what is going on in Somalia. It can be described at best Confederation, how can you have federalism when the Central government is extremely weak and literally has no authority over anyone ? No power is shared, every region has absolute power over their own region and the central government can absolutely do nothing about it.

Second thing, Farmaajo has not accomplished anything as of right now, with increase attacks in the capital, the whole Qalbi Dhagax fiasco, and an inability to secure investments and kick start the army and economy. His presidency has been a rollercoaster ride, things were more optimistic when we had HSM as a president although he was extremely corrupt. I have never been optimistic whenever a new president has taken the helm the following years after Abdulaahi yusufs failure and resignation.

I don't see much changing with the SFG, all they seem to accomplish is building shiny new parliament buildings...

At this point I ain't associating with Somalia until the SFG stop making boneheaded moves and start acting like competent politicians..
From now on my country is Hiiraan and my Capital city is Beledweyne..

 

[Starscream]

Puntland will not declare independence anytime soon. To declare independence would be a political suicide for the Darood tribe since some of them still remain in the south (Jubbaland).

Not really mx&og are big enough to survive

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

Our brothers Jubbaland will also seek independence. Majerteen I mean Darood empire will soon come back alive until us majerteens take over the empire.

"Muh Qabiil" Syndrome has a terrible affect on your mind. The qabyaalad parasite has already feasted on the logic that you once possessed and you now seem to make the most outlandish claims.

You are on the verge of becoming a brain dead "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome infected zombie. We don't have much time left.

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

Stay mad.

 

[Abdalla]

That doesn't make any sense.

Do you know the definition of sovereign?

Sovereign is the state of acting and conducting affairs on your own without any interference and having supreme power. The problem is Puntland is not the supreme power. The SFG is above Puntland. That's not to say Puntland cannot conduct it's own affairs, in fact you can but under a federal state system, like everyone else. No one should be having privileges greater than the other.

You are an autonomous federal state.

How can the SFG be above Puntland, when Puntland existed before the SFG?

Again, no one is telling you to not conduct your own affairs. You can, but you must realise that you are not sovereign. It's a simple fact. Autonomy and sovereignty are apples and oranges.

It boils down to the same: doing whatever you want without answering to anyone. Everyone knows PL is not a sovereign country, but we act as one to conduct our own affairs.

 

[merka]

First off there is no such thing as federalism with what is going on in Somalia. It can be described at best Confederation, how can you have federalism when the Central government is extremely weak and literally has no authority over anyone ? No power is shared, every region has absolute power over their own region and the central government can absolutely do nothing about it.

Second thing, Farmaajo has not accomplished anything as of right now, with increase attacks in the capital, the whole Qalbi Dhagax fiasco, and an inability to secure investments and kick start the army and economy. His presidency has been a rollercoaster ride, things were more optimistic when we had HSM as a president although he was extremely corrupt. I have never been optimistic whenever a new president has taken the helm the following years after Abdulaahi yusufs failure and resignation.

I don't see much changing with the SFG, all they seem to accomplish is building shiny new parliament buildings...

At this point I ain't associating with Somalia until the SFG stop making boneheaded moves and start acting like competent politicians..
From now on my country is Hiiraan and my Capital city is Beledweyne..

And now the Hiiraan Independence Movement has begun

 

[Bohol]

Not really mx&og are big enough to survive

In a Somalia where they are a minority that won't work. The PM will be given to Rahanweyn in that case and president
will be Hawiye for life.

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

Sxb, it's better 4 us for them to form their own country.

Yeah your epic failures will be fixed if Puntland becomes its own country These clowns are devoid of any reality

 

[Deactivated]

Puntland has two things going for itself in the short term.

A) Massive diaspora who can bring expertise and passion in solving problems.

B) Native youth who have access to Cellphones that can see what real infrastructure, design and technology look like from around the world. You cannot be dishonest to the Youth in Somalia anymore. All they have to do pull out a Cellphone and ask these Odays “Hey, why can’t you do this for us”?

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

How can the SFG be above Puntland, when Puntland existed before the SFG?



It boils down to the same: doing whatever you want without answering to anyone. Everyone knows PL is not a sovereign country, but we act as one to conduct our own affairs.

The SFG is above Puntland not because of how long it has lasted but because the fact that the SFG is the sovereign head of state of the whole country. That you cannot deny.

Well that's what autonomy is about, conducting your own affairs, sovereignty does not play a part in that because there is no secession, no declaration of independence.

But know that when the SFG does get it's shit together, there will undoubtedly be some changes to the system. That you cannot also deny.

 

[Bohol]

Our brothers Jubbaland will also seek independence. Majerteen I mean Darood empire will soon come back alive until us majerteens take over the empire.

It is feasible in Puntland but not Jubbaland. Reason is Jubbaland is only around 50-60% Darood rest are other groups, it is why Ahmed
Madoobe can't venture outside Kismaayo without being shot at.

 

[Abdalla]

Here's Faroole reminding Sheikh Sharif to give his input on the constitution and with that complete tthe constitution.

Five years later, he is reminding his successor HSM to complete the constitution. He even made a booklet form for him.

Why do some people hate dastuur?

 

[Starscream]

In a Somalia where they are a minority that won't work. The PM will be given to Rahanweyn in that case and president
will be Hawiye for life.

Currently mj add nothing value in politics to these 2 last election they were primarily against farmaajo
Literally no difference between Rahanweyn holding pm position or them
If merahan can be president without there help why couldn't they get pm without them?

 

[Cyberborg]

how come puntland always copy somaliland

faroole is kuufaar he said quran is not complete but constitution is complete anyone who likes him will also go to the hellfire and is kuufaar

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

Currently mj add nothing value in politics to these 2 last election they were primarily against farmaajo
Literally no difference between Rahanweyn holding pm position or them
If merahan can be president without there help why couldn't they get pm without them?

And dhulos add anything?

 

[Abdalla]

The SFG is above Puntland not because of how long it has lasted but because the fact that the SFG is the sovereign head of state of the whole country. That you cannot deny.

Well that's what autonomy is about, conducting your own affairs, sovereignty does not play a part in that because there is no secession, no declaration of independence.

But know that when the SFG does get it's shit together, there will undoubtedly be some changes to the system. That you cannot also deny.

Which binding contract/document says that SFG is above Puntland? That's the whole point. A constitution will make it easier to say who's right and who's wrong in the events of disagreements. The same constitution every president since 2009 has willingly failed to complete and approve. HSM said there should be a referendum to approve the constitution. That donkey failed to hold a one-man-one-vote elections but wants to hold a nationwide referendum. This are the people we are dealing with.

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

Currently mj add nothing value in politics to these 2 last election they were primarily against farmaajo
Literally no difference between Rahanweyn holding pm position or them
If merahan can be president without there help why couldn't they get pm without them?

All of Puntland's MPs voted for Farmaajo if your dumbass thinks Marehan can survive in a moryaan Somalia you can't be taken seriously. Leave the discussion to adults

 

[Bohol]

Currently mj add nothing value in politics to these 2 last election they were primarily against farmaajo
Literally no difference between Rahanweyn holding pm position or them
If merahan can be president without there help why couldn't they get pm without them?

Currently Darood has around 60 MPs the same as Hawiye , Dir and Rahanweyn. If reer Puntland leave (this includes
the Dhulo and Warsan MPs as well) the Darood will be left with around 30 something MPs basically the same as 0.5 Lol.

 

[Starscream]

And dhulos add anything?

Dhulos obsession huh stay on topic
I was correcting Bohol assumption am sure @Ferrari would agree with my comment

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

Dhulos obsession huh stay on topic
I was correcting Bohol assumption am sure @Ferrari would agree with my comment

Ofcourse dhulos and cagdheers would agree, MJ is a threat to them. Looooool.

Don't get a heart attack!