Ok very interesting , also it’s quiet weird how Puntland has around 4.3 million people a smaller budget than somaliland yet has a higher development index and Lower poverty rate.
Puntland: shockingly worrying developments
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That figure is grossly out of proportion. At best, Puntland has around 1.5 - 2.0 million people, whereas Somaliland is between 3.5 - 4 million
That’s what is being listed throughout the internet. Any reason why it would be 1.5-2.0 million.People don’t just add 2 million for the fun of it.
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Just look at how empty Bari and nugaal are, meesha cidba kuma noola waa Laangaab regions
Since the World Bank report the Issac have been scrambling for dirt now they are forced to find negatives where they don’t exist but like drakes hit album nothing was the same
Oh w8 apparently there is around 2.5 millionnin Bari + mudug. Around 700k in Puntland controlled sanaag and 335 k in sooldistrict.Just look at how empty Bari and nugaal are, meesha cidba kuma noola waa Laangaab regions
http://goobjoog.com/english/puntland-issues-report-of-population-estimation-of-its-residents/
Somaliland receives its aid directly from the UK and EU. We have to fight for our share with the corrupt SFG. They're making fun of our meager budget, but it only shows how effective PL handles their small budget. Considering how efficient they handle their budget, I wasn't really surprised that our development index is much higher than other and having relatively much lower poverty rate.
No surprise. They have been printing fake money out of thin air for so long, no body is using it anymore. SL was smart enough to allow their fake money into eastern regions to the point Khatumo hardliners are gradually accepting to deal with SL shilling instead of the Somali one.
Gaas has been a great bless to the Sadat nation, may he continue to drive his terror stricken dessert into the edge of hell.
Gaas has been a great bless to the Sadat nation, may he continue to drive his terror stricken dessert into the edge of hell.
Very interesting landheere politics, I personally am I langaab who has no real share here other than somalinimo.Puntland is a great state and is the richest so far in Somalia.Hopefully they can be an example to other states in Somalia.
Khaatumo hardliners don’t use somaliland shilling at all.Somali government is introducing new bills with 50 million cash injection.This will reduce local inflation in Puntland.Also they can’t be copied easily.
The Monitoring Group investigated unregulated currency printing in Puntland during its previous mandate, concluding that counterfeit currency printed in the State Bank of Puntland without any regulation or approval from the Central Bank of Somalia had caused inflation and civil unrest on multiple occasions. The Security Council expressed “concern at the generation and distribution of counterfeit Somali currency”.2
On 10 January 2017, the Inji market in Garowe was shut down after a protest against fluctuations in the Somali shilling turned violent. A non-violent protest occurred on the following day at the Parliament building of Puntland. On 26 January, another demonstration in Inji market ended up with police dispersing the crowd by firing at it.3
3. On 6 February, Puntland Presidential Guards protested over unpaid salaries in Garowe. The cashier assigned to process the guards’ salaries was abducted, but he was released later the same day. Another protest was held in Garowe on 26 February by the Darawish (Puntland regular force). The protests ceased on 27 January at the same time as significant quantities of counterfeit Somali shillings appeared to the money exchange market in Garowe, strongly indicating that the Puntland forces had been paid in freshly printed money.4 Open source and confidential security reports from April and May 2017 indicate that the security forces of Puntland were again on the brink of mutiny because of unpaid salaries.5
4 The cabinet of Puntland issued a statement on 6 July accusing Al-Shabaab of banning the use of the Somali shilling, and demanding people not comply. A representative of the Puntland administration told the SEMG that the crisis had been caused by “Al-Shabaab, and no one else”.7
Riots fuelled by the introduction of “Puntland Money” spread to Galkayo on 20 July. On 2 August, at least 15 people were injured when hundreds of violent protestors took to the streets of Bosaso, blocking the roads and looting stores. The demonstrations continued on the following day and the market remained closed. On 5 August, local businessmen were arrested for not accepting the Somali shilling, and on 6 August the governor of Bari region and the Minister of Finance of Puntland held a press conference declaring a fixed rate for the Somali shilling, and threatening anyone who would not comply, or who would not accept “old and new currency”, with arrest
Also in July, businessmen in Khatumo region gradually abandoned the Somali shilling and eventually only accepted US dollars and occasionally Somaliland shillings. The final decision to stop using the Somali shilling was made in a meeting of businessmen headed by the Somaililand governor of Sool region, Abdi Khayre Dirir, on 13 July. The representatives of the Khatumo business community informed the Monitoring Group, that a vast shipment of counterfeit 1,000 Somali shilling notes had arrived from Garowe by road, and that the Somaliland troops manning the checkpoint at the border had let them pass uncontested. As a result, the Somali shilling became practically worthless and the markets and shops in Las Anod closed.9 By mid-September, the civil unrest had spread to other parts of Sool as well as Sanaag in Somaliland, and violent protests fuelled by the countermeasures taken by the local authorities, including mass detentions of currency traders refusing to comply with the fixed exchange rates introduced by the Minister of Finance of Puntland on 3 August, continued in Puntland.10
Though the President of Puntland, Abdiweli Mohamed Ali “Gass”, denied the existence of “Puntland Money” in a Parliament session held on 6 August, the Monitoring Group concludes the Puntland authorities continue to cover the salaries of the security forces by printing counterfeit money with a printing machine located in the State Bank of Puntland, Bosaso.11 Both unregulated currency printing and the countermeasures taken by the Puntland administration against inflation not only endanger the peace and security in Somalia, but also promote the dollarization of the economy and complicate the goal of achieving an independent monetary policy in Somalia. The direct effect is most severe on the poorest consumers, who do not have access to US dollars.
Ilma Bermuda
People who meet with somaliland aren’t hardline Khatumo supporters ,who believe in a united Somalia.Also I have stated that this will be countered by the federal government, why don’t you focus on somaliland instead of Puntland or even Somalia.The Monitoring Group investigated unregulated currency printing in Puntland during its previous mandate, concluding that counterfeit currency printed in the State Bank of Puntland without any regulation or approval from the Central Bank of Somalia had caused inflation and civil unrest on multiple occasions. The Security Council expressed “concern at the generation and distribution of counterfeit Somali currency”.2
On 10 January 2017, the Inji market in Garowe was shut down after a protest against fluctuations in the Somali shilling turned violent. A non-violent protest occurred on the following day at the Parliament building of Puntland. On 26 January, another demonstration in Inji market ended up with police dispersing the crowd by firing at it.3
3. On 6 February, Puntland Presidential Guards protested over unpaid salaries in Garowe. The cashier assigned to process the guards’ salaries was abducted, but he was released later the same day. Another protest was held in Garowe on 26 February by the Darawish (Puntland regular force). The protests ceased on 27 January at the same time as significant quantities of counterfeit Somali shillings appeared to the money exchange market in Garowe, strongly indicating that the Puntland forces had been paid in freshly printed money.4 Open source and confidential security reports from April and May 2017 indicate that the security forces of Puntland were again on the brink of mutiny because of unpaid salaries.5
4 The cabinet of Puntland issued a statement on 6 July accusing Al-Shabaab of banning the use of the Somali shilling, and demanding people not comply. A representative of the Puntland administration told the SEMG that the crisis had been caused by “Al-Shabaab, and no one else”.7
Riots fuelled by the introduction of “Puntland Money” spread to Galkayo on 20 July. On 2 August, at least 15 people were injured when hundreds of violent protestors took to the streets of Bosaso, blocking the roads and looting stores. The demonstrations continued on the following day and the market remained closed. On 5 August, local businessmen were arrested for not accepting the Somali shilling, and on 6 August the governor of Bari region and the Minister of Finance of Puntland held a press conference declaring a fixed rate for the Somali shilling, and threatening anyone who would not comply, or who would not accept “old and new currency”, with arrest
Also in July, businessmen in Khatumo region gradually abandoned the Somali shilling and eventually only accepted US dollars and occasionally Somaliland shillings. The final decision to stop using the Somali shilling was made in a meeting of businessmen headed by the Somaililand governor of Sool region, Abdi Khayre Dirir, on 13 July. The representatives of the Khatumo business community informed the Monitoring Group, that a vast shipment of counterfeit 1,000 Somali shilling notes had arrived from Garowe by road, and that the Somaliland troops manning the checkpoint at the border had let them pass uncontested. As a result, the Somali shilling became practically worthless and the markets and shops in Las Anod closed.9 By mid-September, the civil unrest had spread to other parts of Sool as well as Sanaag in Somaliland, and violent protests fuelled by the countermeasures taken by the local authorities, including mass detentions of currency traders refusing to comply with the fixed exchange rates introduced by the Minister of Finance of Puntland on 3 August, continued in Puntland.10
Though the President of Puntland, Abdiweli Mohamed Ali “Gass”, denied the existence of “Puntland Money” in a Parliament session held on 6 August, the Monitoring Group concludes the Puntland authorities continue to cover the salaries of the security forces by printing counterfeit money with a printing machine located in the State Bank of Puntland, Bosaso.11 Both unregulated currency printing and the countermeasures taken by the Puntland administration against inflation not only endanger the peace and security in Somalia, but also promote the dollarization of the economy and complicate the goal of achieving an independent monetary policy in Somalia. The direct effect is most severe on the poorest consumers, who do not have access to US dollars.
Ilma Bermuda
I'll speak my mind on whatever I want to , this is Somali Spot, take your safe space ass somewhere else.
I’m just exposing hypocrosy , I have never seen such love for a people to fale.I have no real problem with somalilanders who actually care about the well being of Somalia but those who constantly laugh at misfortune ,like you, need to focus on their own “country”.I'll speak my mind on whatever I want to , this is Somali Spot, take your safe space ass somewhere else.
Somali entities have a tendency to inflate their figures for various reasons (aid being one of them).
This table is from the world bank thread:
SL (incl all of sool & half of sanaag even though SL controlled western sanaag is more densely populated) 673,263 + 1,242,003 + 721,363 + 327,428 + 272,062 = 3,236,119
PL (incl half of sanaag) 719,512 + 392,698 + 272,062 = 1,384,272
Yh, mudug isn't included in the table, but even if north mudug was taken to account SL's population would probably be double (or more) than PL's population.
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I think you included wadaniland so that’s not fair
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But thanks for the info I’d probably Puntland has 2.5
Mill at least.
And Gaas sold the only lifeline and basket to Paul. Wait for the next few years and economic embargo. He destroyed Puntland.
Somaliland playing is playing 4D chess.
Who knew the pirates and their counterfeit money could be used
to our advantage. Hats off to the official who came up with this.
While the general populance suffer inflation and economic depression Gaas's stomach gets inflated by the day.
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