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FBIsomalia

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Or International community like Turkey.is it right that Turkey and other donors are concentrating only in Xamar?
This guy seems new on Somalia politics. He remind me those watching Somalia national TV and believe what says and all is done by Government. But the fact says without Amisom as security force and Turkey with Qatar money they didn't do much.
 

FBIsomalia

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You see the difference between me and you is I’m not hold brief for anyone, I’m just interested in a stable national government that works for all people unlike you who is clapping full force for your former terrorist and al shabaab co-founder Ahmed madoobe who is trying to structure a clan enclave now.

I’m a realist who knows clanism is present in all places hence why I’m saying for a prosperous country we need to move away from that as we have seen it’s result for 30 years.

byr you here saying NO we need clan fiefdoms for another 100 years even if it means we shall remain where we are as long as my uncle remains relevant by being village president
History will say Ahmed madoobe bring peace to kismayo and in his time didn't happen major bomb attack beside last year only. On the other hand Xamar called bombadish from the bomb attacks.
 
You see the difference between me and you is I’m not hold brief for anyone, I’m just interested in a stable national government that works for all people unlike you who is clapping full force for your former terrorist and al shabaab co-founder Ahmed madoobe who is trying to structure a clan enclave now.

I’m a realist who knows clanism is present in all places hence why I’m saying for a prosperous country we need to move away from that as we have seen it’s result for 30 years.

byr you here saying NO we need clan fiefdoms for another 100 years even if it means we shall remain where we are as long as my uncle remains relevant by being village president
Somalia is a collection of clans.Charity begins at home.
You need to know why the last government in Somalia collapsed.One of it was because it was highly centralised you don't want to repeat the same mistake and expect a different result.

If SL and PL had received same funding like Xamar they would be far ahead of Xamar.
It was PL that created the current FG in xamar.

The reason why people want to dismantle decentralisation is because they want to maintain a monopoly be it in business like Hormuud or occupy farms and houses of the people in Xamar.

You want me to believe in a centralised government when we know the reality on the ground which is The federal government is weak and is baby seated by foreign forces who have their own ulterior motive.
You have cartels running mega business in xamar and are sponsoring AS.

Don't try blame Federalism for the woes that Somalia had for the last 30 years.
The last regime of MSB was not federal,the warlords who were in charge for decades were not federal.

Qoor qoor,Umar Finish were all ex warlords and you want us to trust them because they were picked by FG.
Also do you know that the current PM used to swindle funds meant for Somali refugees in Kenya.
You want us to dismantle federalism and worship centralised which is being led with people that enriched themselves in the past from the plight of refugees.
 
History will say Ahmed madoobe bring peace to kismayo and in his time didn't happen major bomb attack beside last year only. On the other hand Xamar called bombadish from the bomb attacks.
Are you disputing that Ahmed madoobe was a former al Shabab leader or are you saying he has no longer affiliations to it?

xamar and even others will suffer as long as there is national security vacuum and clan enclaves pretend to be able to fill that position
 
Somalia is a collection of clans.Charity begins at home.
You need to know why the last government in Somalia collapsed.One of it was because it was highly centralised you don't want to repeat the same mistake and expect a different result.

If SL and PL had received same funding like Xamar they would be far ahead of Xamar.
It was PL that created the current FG in xamar.

The reason why people want to dismantle decentralisation is because they want to maintain a monopoly be it in business like Hormuud or occupy farms and houses of the people in Xamar.

You want me to believe in a centralised government when we know the reality on the ground which is The federal government is weak and is baby seated by foreign forces who have their own ulterior motive.
You have cartels running mega business in xamar and are sponsoring AS.

Don't try blame Federalism for the woes that Somalia had for the last 30 years.
The last regime of MSB was not federal,the warlords who were in charge for decades were not federal.

Qoor qoor,Umar Finish were all ex warlords and you want us to trust them because they were picked by FG.
Also do you know that the current PM used to swindle funds meant for Somali refugees in Kenya.
You want us to dismantle federalism and worship centralised which is being led with people that enriched themselves in the past from the plight of refugees.
Small minds discuss personalities but great minds discuss ideas.

yoy see you stuck in the personalities of kheyre, farmaajo and their current adminustration.

im seing far beyond that, I want a centralized government regardless of who leads it even its eelay like @Jiron as long as it’s working on the interests of the Somali people and giving them essential services.

the personalities who occupy your head will leave soon or later, and I’m sure you will being singing to tune had it been your terrorist uncle was in the role now
 
Are you disputing that Ahmed madoobe was a former al Shabab leader or are you saying he has no longer affiliations to it?

xamar and even others will suffer as long as there is national security vacuum and clan enclaves pretend to be able to fill that position
Madoobe was never AS he was part of ICU just like Sh Shariff and he did his part fighting Ethiopians invading Somalia before the US took him out in a raid and he was transferred to Ethiopia where he was under house arrest for a while and he was brought back to Somalia.

But we have AS members running NISA in Xamar.
There is Zakaria who was head of Amniyat in Gedo,We have Mukhtaar who was Godanes right hand man who was also in NISA we have Fahad Yassin who is the main link between Qatar and AS.

No Xamar is the one that created the clan enclaves because of their selfish nature they didn't want a government for decades and do you think they are genuine today?
 
Madoobe was never AS he was part of ICU just like Sh Shariff and he did his part fighting Ethiopians invading Somalia before the US took him out in a raid and he was transferred to Ethiopia where he was under house arrest for a while and he was brought back to Somalia.

But we have AS members running NISA in Xamar.
There is Zakaria who was head of Amniyat in Gedo,We have Mukhtaar who was Godanes right hand man who was also in NISA we have Fahad Yassin who is the main link between Qatar and AS.

No Xamar is the one that created the clan enclaves because of their selfish nature they didn't want a government for decades and do you think they are genuine today?
ICU = Al Shabab in camouflage. Basically another terrorist group that couldn’t come out in the open!

You still stuck in personalities can you atleast move up to nation building?
 
Small minds discuss personalities but great minds discuss ideas.

yoy see you stuck in the personalities of kheyre, farmaajo and their current adminustration.

im seing far beyond that, I want a centralized government regardless of who leads it even its eelay like @Jiron as long as it’s working on the interests of the Somali people and giving them essential services.

the personalities who occupy your head will leave soon or later, and I’m sure you will being singing to tune had it been your terrorist uncle was in the role now
I have never seen a great mind who doesn't do their homework of background checks. You aspire to be like in the west yet want to turn a blind eye on those that have embezzled public funds like Kheyre and Farmajo who are have properties in Kenya.

If Farmajo and Kheyre had a clean history why wouldn't I support them? Why should I support people who are hell bent on stealing the meagre resources of Somalia? Wasnt Kheyre not implicated in the Soma oil corruption? He wanted to steal the Somali resources.
Why not use the Rwanda model do you think Kagame is a thug like Farmajo or Kheyre ? The mayor of Xamar is a former warlord,the president of Galmudug is a former warlord all propped up by N&N.

Madoobe is not a terrorist he has killed alot of terrorist AS who were sponsored from Xamar.The same AS that has infiltrated NISA.

I don't think you are a genuine person who wants the best interest for Somalia.I doubt you being even MJ in the first place.There is no MJ that would want to dismantle PL so that Xamar the Deen of corruption protected.
 
ICU = Al Shabab in camouflage. Basically another terrorist group that couldn’t come out in the open!

You still stuck in personalities can you atleast move up to nation building?
Naah ICU was not AS camouflage I don't know where you are getting your info.But the leader of ICU became a Somali president Sheikh Shariff and his PM was Farmajo.

You are the one stuck on personalities.You cant build a nation when you neglect your village.Go build your village then we can later talk about nation building.Aliens nor Xamar will not build your village.You can keep singing Kumbaya and money meant to build your village will be consumed in Xamar and creating wealth for people of Xamar.
 

FBIsomalia

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Naah ICU was not AS camouflage I don't know where you are getting your info.But the leader of ICU became a Somali president Sheikh Shariff and his PM was Farmajo.

You are the one stuck on personalities.You cant build a nation when you neglect your village.Go build your village then we can later talk about nation building.Aliens nor Xamar will not build your village.You can keep singing Kumbaya and money meant to build your village will be consumed in Xamar and creating wealth for people of Xamar.
Example of it, The money meant for Barawee airport 4.5 million xamar eat it. Robbery on day light lool. Do they think us stupid to believe on centralism and go back to dark ages.
 
You posted one security guard.
But here are some of our forces we don't show you.
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Come near our borders and we will show you.
 
You posted one security guard.
But here are some of our forces we don't show you.
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Come near our borders and we will show you.
I probably know the psf more than you i can tell you they dont even number 200 men in total neither do they have the vigorous training like gorgor commandos despite all the funding they received from US and dubai
 
I probably know the psf more than you i can tell you they dont even number 200 men in total neither do they have the vigorous training like gorgor commandos despite all the funding they received from US and dubai
Well atleast we can secure our borders and cities without the assistance of fufus and raw meat eating xabashi :5hcpspq:
 
Well atleast we can secure our borders and cities without the assistance of fufus and raw meat eating xabashi :5hcpspq:
It is funny how most of you clan fiefdom apologists are quite comfortable and at ease if your village remains shithole as long as xamar remains the same or even worse.

“ I don’t mind to remain shitty dusty tuulo atleast we are at the same level with xamar or we are 5 steps ahead”
:mjlol:
 

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