Qabiil VS Somali State

Can qabiil & the Somali state co-exist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 19 34.5%
  • No

    Votes: 36 65.5%

  • Total voters
    55
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Cognitivedissonance

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Qabil is from Allah government is from man, man can't destroy qabil cause man didn't create qabil but man can destroy government.
 

Professor

The name is Professor, Haji Professor
Stooges comes in all shapes and sizes and not from a specific clan

I'll say Stoogenimo is a bigger obstacle to progress than the qabil identity. You can be a person looking uplift your community without harming others whereas a stooge doesn't give an iota about his people and will only care to fatten his wallet.
I agree sxb.
 
As long as mj people are around then Somalia or even darood will never be stable. Qabil is not the problem it is that clan the should all be sent back to yemen

Lmao and simultaneously you're in this thread talking about Somalia? Whilst adding BS qabyalad, you're a joke.
 

Professor

The name is Professor, Haji Professor
Lmao and simultaneously you're in this thread talking about Somalia? Whilst adding BS qabyalad, you're a joke.
Why don'the you go jump of a cliff and can u stop quoting me
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Sxb you've just handed out the biggest collective karbaash to our people....
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On the real though, if Somalia is doomed as a fractured country then i'd prefer the territory is annexed by Ethiopia who are our Cushitic cousins over the bantu kenyans, even though the thought of Somalia dissappearing from the face of the earth is awful. It's sad that we are a homogeneous nation that cannot even unite in the face of adversity.
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I went in a bit too much but I'm tired of the "Somalia would be a great country if it was for those pesky [insert ethnic/tribal group]..." people. I live in the UK and Somalis are in an equal footing with Romani gypsies in terms of prestige. I'm sure the ones in Europe and North America aren't any better. It's time to take responsibility or move aside and let the country be governed by a civilized people.
 
France, American, South Korea even

The Koreans and Singaporeans and Japanese changed their whole society (culture and beliefs) and they used the top-down approach to quickly modernize. For the Japanese, it was just a cabinet that changed the country. I see no reason for a few Somalis to do the same.

All those countries you've mentioned, except Singapore, have a history spanning thousands of years where they had a sophisticated, structured and centralised civilisation. Somalis only developed an alphabet in the 1970s!!!
 

Yonis

Puntland Youth Organiser
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1. Kacaan regime suppressed qabil (obviously until late 80s early 90s)

2. Kacaan regime has been toppled

3. Qabil will never be supressed again

4. Therefore you have to accomodate qabil states or plunge somalia into yet another civil war
 

Von

With blood and Iron will we reach the fatherland
We need someone to start a truly international Somali organization that pulls in the best and brightest from all fields of studies and experiences that will apply pressure on the Somali Government to change and to apply policies that work for the common good of as all.
 
I went in a bit too much but I'm tired of the "Somalia would be a great country if it was for those pesky [insert ethnic/tribal group]..." people. I live in the UK and Somalis are in an equal footing with Romani gypsies in terms of prestige. I'm sure the ones in Europe and North America aren't any better. It's time to take responsibility or move aside and let the country be governed by a civilized people.
The only glimmer of hope Somalia has is it's educated & highly skilled diaspora who have no qabiil loyalties that can take responsibility.

Anyways, so you've basically given up on Somalis?
 
1. Kacaan regime suppressed qabil (obviously until late 80s early 90s)

2. Kacaan regime has been toppled

3. Qabil will never be supressed again

4. Therefore you have to accomodate qabil states or plunge somalia into yet another civil war
Well then be ready to be annexed by Ethiopia. Somalis will never be able to resist Ethiopian annexation if they choose to remain divided as separate clans.
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Yonis

Puntland Youth Organiser
FKD Visionary
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Well then be ready to be annexed by Ethiopia. Somalis will never be able to resist Ethiopian annexation if they choose to remain divided as separate clans.
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You know what i mean. Qabil states like Puntland that cooperated with Somali Federal Government and work with them, not like SL that cut all ties to Mogadishu. It can still work, the days of no qabil and 100% somalinimo is over and will never come back
 
You know what i mean. Qabil states like Puntland that cooperated with Somali Federal Government and work with them, not like SL that cut all ties to Mogadishu. It can still work, the days of no qabil and 100% somalinimo is over and will never come back
You're naive if you think Ethiopia has no plans to annex Somali lands. They already have our western territory & they desperately want to gain coastline so they won't have to rely on french-backed Djibouti & have full conrol over ports etc. Somalia is the perfect candidate to become the victim of Abyssinian imperialism in the future.
 

Professor

The name is Professor, Haji Professor
Of course, act as if I quoted you first. I was responding to your ridiculous accusations, don't come at me with your bullshit and I have no desire to ever quote you again, return the favour.
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WTF is wrong with you. You are the one who quoted me in a complete different thread to the previous one and tried to instigate the same argument we had in the other one here for no fucking reason and then u say I am the one bullshiting are u literally retard. Why did u feel the need to quote me in this one at all.
 
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WTF is wrong with you. You are the one who quoted me in a complete different thread to the previous one and tried to instigate the same argument we had in the other one here for no fucking reason and then u say I am the one bullshiting are u literally retard. Why did u feel the need to quote me in this one at all.

You quoted me in a thread accusing me of talking bad about SL and were cursing mogadishu when I never said anything at all about SL. The same time you were saying you don't give a shit about Somalia and I should mind my own, I come over here and you're giving tips on how to improve somalia and you're slandering a whole qabil. Why are you lying? You need to learn to read and comprehend before you attack, anyway I'm not responding to you anymore you're clearly delusional.
 
You're naive if you think Ethiopia has no plans to annex Somali lands. They already have our western territory & they desperately want to gain coastline so they won't have to rely on french-backed Djibouti & have full conrol over ports etc. Somalia is the perfect candidate to become the victim of Abyssinian imperialism in the future.
Ethiopia does not want to annex Somalia. You guys are too paranoid. the Somali region of Ethiopia has historically been apart of the Ethiopian empire hinterlands known as hararghe. We are 10000x more likely to settle our dispute with Eritrea and annex assab then ever go and invade Somalia.
 

Yonis

Puntland Youth Organiser
FKD Visionary
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Ethiopia does not want to annex Somalia. You guys are too paranoid. the Somali region of Ethiopia has historically been apart of the Ethiopian empire hinterlands known as hararghe. We are 10000x more likely to settle are dispute with Eritrea and annex assab then ever go and invade Somalia.
You're an ethiopian spy, why should we believe you
 
Ethiopia does not want to annex Somalia. You guys are too paranoid. the Somali region of Ethiopia has historically been apart of the Ethiopian empire hinterlands known as hararghe. We are 10000x more likely to settle our dispute with Eritrea and annex assab then ever go and invade Somalia.
And you think we're gonna believe you...?
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You folks want the whole HOA region to yourselves.
 
You're an ethiopian spy, why should we believe you
Look, Ethiopia would not even take Somalia if they signed it over to us. It's simple really, somalia is too vast and too hostile. We do want free access to ports but we wouldn't sacrifice developing the area for it to one day try to secede from us. Every Ethiopian just wants Eritrea back nothing else.
 
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