Qabiil VS Somali State

Can qabiil & the Somali state co-exist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 19 34.5%
  • No

    Votes: 36 65.5%

  • Total voters
    55
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This Somali general is a qabiliste hooyadiisa waasaha I remember how he made a post talking about there's no such thing as darood and we are all samaale boowe samaale hooyadiisa ha waaso:gaasdrink:
 
This Somali general is a qabiliste hooyadiisa waasaha I remember how he made a post talking about there's no such thing as darood and we are all samaale boowe samaale hooyadiisa ha waaso:gaasdrink:
Yes that's correct, all Somalis have a common origin. Now FOH you cuqdad ridden low IQ qabiilist....
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I think they can coexist as history has shown it before But it will take a lot before the mistrust among the clans disappears. Somalis need very passionate nationalism since it is the only cure to qabilism and by that I mean institutionalized nationalism where the child grows with it from young age. This happened in Siad Barre era especially in early 70's and 80's.
Sxb we've never had a unified state in our history until 1960, prior to that our ancestors only had qabiil. I agree though that education is key in the process of eradicating qabiil. In this era, qabiil & unified state cannot co-exist, one has to go.
 
Sxb we've never had a unified state in our history until 1960, prior to that our ancestors only had qabiil. I agree though that education is key in the process of eradicating qabiil. In this era, qabiil & unified state cannot co-exist, one has to go.
Somalia was very much united in the 70's the height of Somali nationalism. In the 60's the situation was very similar to today ofcause without the wars and car bombs. But clanism was rampant and corruption was unprecedented.

Do you know that Siad Barre was denied his right to lead the army and his position given to general daud who was junior rank than him? The reason being darood had already higher position and could not there hold the army as well. This is very similar to today's 4.5 formula.
 
The only ppl that Really hate Qabil are the ones that want to expand into other ppls lands, and want those ppl to completely lose their identity. Sxb nobody is falling for it do get over it.


Ps the biggest Qabiliest bastards are the ones that cry they hate Qabil.
 
Somalia was very much united in the 70's the height of Somali nationalism. In the 60's the situation was very similar to today ofcause without the wars and car bombs. But clanism was rampant and corruption was unprecedented.

Do you know that Siad Barre was denied his right to lead the army and his position given to general daud who was junior rank than him? The reason being darood had already higher position and could not there hold the army as well. This is very similar to today's 4.5 formula.
That's a good example sxb. We need a merit based system, qabiil will only restrict our true potential as a people.
 
The only ppl that Really hate Qabil are the ones that want to expand into other ppls lands, and want those ppl to completely lose their identity. Sxb nobody is falling for it do get over it.


Ps the biggest Qabiliest bastards are the ones that cry they hate Qabil.
You're mistaking me for the fake nationalists on this site. I do not believe in the institution of qabiil, i only identify as a Somali. If you actually read through the thread you'd understand my position on this issue, instead of writing the same old BS excusing qabiil. If you want to cling on to out-dated qabiil then it's cool, but don't expect Somalia to have a bright future with the likes of you living there.
 
You're mistaking me for the fake nationalists on this site. I do not believe in the institution of qabiil, i only identify as a Somali. If you actually read through the thread you'd understand my position on this issue, instead of writing the same old BS excusing qabiil. If you want to cling on to out-dated qabiil then it's cool, but don't expect Somalia to have a bright future with the likes of you living there.


Firstly I'm not living in Somalia, secondly im not clinging to qabil but I'm just tired of ppl always trying to find a useless excuse of why the country is in this state.

Somalis ruined Somalia because of xaasidnomo, bastarnimo iyo greedynimo.

Blaming Qabil is basically a justification for a the individuals that destroyed the country, and saying they actually had a reason to do so when the truth of the matter is they're just criminal scum.

it's like alshabab saying they kill innocent Somalis because Amisom has presence in Somalia, sounds like a load of bs right?
 

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I went in a bit too much but I'm tired of the "Somalia would be a great country if it was for those pesky [insert ethnic/tribal group]..." people. I live in the UK and Somalis are in an equal footing with Romani gypsies in terms of prestige. I'm sure the ones in Europe and North America aren't any better. It's time to take responsibility or move aside and let the country be governed by a civilized people.
Somalis need to be civilized first.
 
Firstly I'm not living in Somalia, secondly im not clinging to qabil but I'm just tired of ppl always trying to find a useless excuse of why the country is in this state.

Somalis ruined Somalia because of xaasidnomo, bastarnimo iyo greedynimo.

Blaming Qabil is basically a justification for a the individuals that destroyed the country, and saying they actually had a reason to do so when the truth of the matter is they're just criminal scum.

it's like alshabab saying they kill innocent Somalis because Amisom has presence in Somalia, sounds like a load of bs right?
If you refer back to my earlier post on the first page, i stated that there will always be sinister individuals that will use qabiil as a tool to mobilise their "clansmen" to fight on their behalf. If you eliminate qabiil from the equation, sinister individuals may still find poor folks to fight for them, but it won't be as easy as getting a loyal "clansmen" to fight for them without question. As long as qabiil exists, it will always trump the state.
 

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Well they'll have to give up their qabiil & submit to the state if they want to become civilised....are you willing to do that?
I'm a woman, I don't carry on the qabiil name talk to the men lambar one. Lambar two, Somalis need mental health services, if it wasn't qabiil it would be something else.
 
Somalis are living out in the Wild Wild West lol. Qabiil is not the problem, it's waali.

And ignorance at it finest, yet nobody wants to challenge these issues, they all just wanna slam qabil and other institutions that are not the real issue here.
 
If you refer back to my earlier post on the first page, i stated that there will always be sinister individuals that will use qabiil as a tool to mobilise their "clansmen" to fight on their behalf. If you eliminate qabiil from the equation, sinister individuals may still find poor folks to fight for them, but it won't be as easy as getting a loyal "clansmen" to fight for them without question. As long as qabiil exists, it will always trump the state.


i did read ur first post and the moral of ur entire story is ur against clan federalism, my friend ur the only senister person here.
 
i did read ur first post and the moral of ur entire story is ur against clan federalism, my friend ur the only senister person here.
How exactly am i "sinister"? I only want whats best for my people, you on the other hand still want to turn a blind eye to out-dated qabiil and so far you have offered zero solutions, instead you've just been calcaaling about how qabiil isn't the problem. When all else fails you resort to insults...typical.
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Care to explain what you think my "sinister" intentions are?
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If you refer back to my earlier post on the first page, i stated that there will always be sinister individuals that will use qabiil as a tool to mobilise their "clansmen" to fight on their behalf. If you eliminate qabiil from the equation, sinister individuals may still find poor folks to fight for them, but it won't be as easy as getting a loyal "clansmen" to fight for them without question. As long as qabiil exists, it will always trump the state.


i did read ur first post and the moral of ur entire story is ur against clan federalism, my friend ur the only senister person here.
How exactly am i "sinister"? I only want whats best for my people, you on the other hand still want to turn a blind eye to out-dated qabiil and so far you have offered zero solutions, instead you've just been calcaaling about how qabiil isn't the problem. When all else fails you resort to insults...typical.
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Care to explain what you think my "sinister" intentions are?
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If u wanna know ur intentions u should read ur fist post and stop giggling at me.
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i did read ur first post and the moral of ur entire story is ur against clan federalism, my friend ur the only senister person here.



If u wanna know ur intentions u should read ur fist post and stop giggling at me.
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Soon the masses will be taught to hate qabiil & that it's just an illusion and there's nothing you can do about it.
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Soon the masses will be taught to hate qabiil & that it's just an illusion and there's nothing you can do about it.
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You should have spoken like this in the first place, instead of the crocodile tears.

Ps Good luck selling ur BS to the masses
 
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