Sheikh Yasir Qadhi Supports Same Sex Unions

[Duchess]

@Duchess Take your L and log off.
Supporting homosexuality is not only anomalous, but its a sin itself. I don't know whether your sexuality should be questions or not, but you must separate religion from politics. Even in a secular government such as Barres we would never accept same sex marriages into our society. Simply due to common sense.

If this marriage thing doesn't work out, you gonna hook a sista up by sending your bbw my way?


Barre wanted to change the Quran. If he were alive today, he would bootyclap for the west by legalizing same sex marriage in exchange for arms to kill Somalis from rival qabils.

 

[Inactive]

Said Barre was a liberal tyrant.

 

[SOMACOON]

I think you've misunderstood the debate entirely.

Most 'marriages' that take place in the west wouldn't be valid islamically anyways. You're not against those.Gay people just want the rights that are allocated to married couples. Has nothing at all to do with religion.

I understood the debate clearly. I assume you missed exactly what it is that we're addressing. Same sex marriages just like my boy @Tramo said do not effect how we Iive our lives. If the west chooses to legalize same sex marriages, they would be reorganizing their environments and governments. Not mine. My home is in Somalia. @Duchess agrees that one should be given the right to marry within the same gender and even said she'd welcome same sex marriages into Somalia if the nation was secular. Supporting homosexuality and being Muslim do not correspond. That's my point.

How you gonna mix oil and water?

 

[Inactive]

@SOMACOON what would you do if your brother was gay?

 

[SOMACOON]

If this marriage thing doesn't work out, you gonna hook a sista up by sending your bbw my way?


Fo sho'

Barre wanted to change the Quran. If he were alive today, he would bootyclap for the west by legalizing same sex marriage in exchange for arms to kill Somalis from rival qabils.

Barre was a liberal yes, but not liberal enough to support homosexuality. With that being said, the man only targeted clans who opposed the government while he enriched those who cooperated.
If my state takes arms today, you think Obama goin sign a paper?
He would declare marshal law and would immediately deploy troops.
Understand how politics work, it ain't always about qabyalad. If he were still in power, I'd be having hot sex on liido beach. That's for sure

 

[SOMACOON]

@SOMACOON what would you do if your brother was gay?

My bros grew up seeing me around a lot of women, sooomali waxey Ku maahmahday, laga arkaa laga bartaa. Don't ask me silly questions

 

[John Michael]

I understood the debate clearly. I assume you missed exactly what it is that we're addressing. Same sex marriages just like my boy @Tramo said do not effect how we Iive our lives. If the west chooses to legalize same sex marriages, they would be reorganizing their environments and governments. Not mine. My home is in Somalia. @Duchess agrees that one should be given the right to marry within the same gender and even said she'd welcome same sex marriages into Somalia if the nation was secular. Supporting homosexuality and being Muslim do not correspond. That's my point.

How you gonna mix oil and water?

I don't get it? They just want the right to have the financial benefits of marriage as well as have rights over their spouse if they get sick. How does this mean you support homos? I don't.

Gay marriage will happen in somalia when he'll freezes over. Its not really relevant to talk about somalia adopting this shit when majority of the women in xamar wear niqab. Don't let bahal's and AJ's fear mongering sway your opinion.

 

[SOMACOON]

I don't get it? They just want the right to have the financial benefits of marriage as well as have rights over their spouse if they get sick. How does this mean you support homos? I don't.

Gay marriage will happen in somalia when he'll freezes over. Its not really relevant to talk about somalia adopting this shit when majority of the women in xamar wear niqab. Don't let bahal's and AJ's fear mongering sway your opinion.

You're saying they're only getting married for documents?
These people are supposedly in "love" and in love with the same gender, this is an act haram in Islam. Supporting it means allowing such behavior to sway the society. Of course this would never happen in Somalia, but saaxibtaa would rather welcome it with warm hands. Them Ka'nadian liberals tho yo
I've got no issues with homos, although I don't support their way of life. It would go against all of my morals.
My culture, my diin, my fir

 

[TekNiKo]

No true salafi takes "Yes-Sir" Qadhi serious, he is being funded by the Obama administration to water down Islam. He is a scammer who charges outragous amounts for Basic fiqh lessons you can learn online.

al Maghreb institute is a scaam.

 

[Tramo]

You're saying they're only getting married for documents?
These people are supposedly in "love" and in love with the same gender, this is an act haram in Islam. Supporting it means allowing such behavior to sway the society. Of course this would never happen in Somalia, but saaxibtaa would rather welcome it with warm hands. Them Ka'nadian liberals tho yo
I've got no issues with homos, although I don't support their way of life. It would go against all of my morals.
My culture, my diin, my fir

actually sxb, that's pretty much what the issue is. they already have the right to whatever they want in the west (apart from getting married of course), that's not the issue anymore. at this point, even to a muslim it shouldn't make a difference whether they get married or not. at the end of the day it's just a piece of paper + some benefits, they will be in a relationship regardless lol

 

[Hafez]

I went to sleep and I missed this thread. I've woken up for fajr and I'm going back to sleep but before I do, I'm going to address this issue.

@Duchess lol @ you for calling this man 'Shaykh Al-Islam'. It appears as though anyone who supports your views is 'shake Al-Islam'. It does NOT matter how many degrees the man has accumulated, hypocrite scholars have existed since the time of Prophets (AS) of the Bani Israel. This (Yasir Qadhi) is the same man that gets religious advice from Tony Blair LMFAO.

Back to the topic, homosexuality is haraam and will always be haraam. A marriage contract between two people of the same gender is absolutely invalid.

Qur'an (26:165-166) - "Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males, "And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people transgressing"

Qur'an (4:16) - "If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone" This is the Yusuf Ali translation. The original Arabic does not use the word "men" and simply says "two from among you."

[Lot] said, "These are my daughters - if you would be doers [of lawful marriage]." 15:71.

I can't believe I'm actually giving a serious response to this nonsense. What do you mean marriage POLITICALLY? If you mean Civil marriage and the two parties were forced then that's a different issue.

Allah (SWT) has clearly forbidden homosexuality. Some of the 'progressive' Muslims say 'well he didn't forbid same-sex marriage explicitly?' Marriage between two people of the same gender is NOT valid. Sexual intercourse between two people is clearly forbidden thus marriage between them is forbidden by default. Homosexual acts are heinous as they are against the fitrah, so is same-sex marriage.

So if we use this mans reasoning (which is totally flawed by the way) then what's the point of this 'same-sex marriage' since homosexual acts are clearly forbidden? We know that zina is not limited to a physical, sexual intercourse. We know that looking is a type of Zina, so if these two people of the same gender were married, they can't even LOOK at each other? How ridiculous. M

Narrated by al-Bukhaari (6243) and Muslim (2657) from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) who said: “Allaah has decreed for the son of Adam his share of zina which will inevitably catch up with him. The zina of the eye is looking and the zina of the tongue is speaking. The heart wishes and longs and the private part confirms that or denies it.”

Same-sex marriage is clearly forbidden as it's contrary to many aspects of Sharia in of itself nor is such a marriage valid to begin with!

Even if marriage is valid from the perspective of the kuffar, so is drinking alcohol. Does that mean we should consume alcohol?

We are seeing more and more signs that we live in the end of times everyday.

 

[Gambit]

In America yeah they have every right to be gay, but as muslims we have every right to shut them out once they choose khaanisnimo. There's no way in hell I'd pray in front of or next to a known at the masjid.

 

[afrosomali]

how dense do u have to be to think legalizing gay marriage will have no effect on the muslim community? do muslims live in a bubble?

 

[Jubba_Man]

I have a lot of respect for the Shaykh. However, I'm just going to say this is one opinion I certainly won't endorse him on.

Lol at @SOMACOON acting like the typical religious wahabi khariji terrorist. Nigga, you're on here bragging about how much zina you indulge in and other vices, and then you're trying to make takfir on others? The hilarious thing is, according to the same wahabi doctrine you're invoking for your takfir, you would also be a kaffir for openly bragging about your sins.

 

[SOMACOON]

I have a lot of respect for the Shaykh. However, I'm just going to say this is one opinion I certainly won't endorse him on.

Lol at @SOMACOON acting like the typical religious wahabi khariji terrorist. Nigga, you're on here bragging about how much zina you indulge in and other vices, and then you're trying to make takfir on others? The hilarious thing is, according to the same wahabi doctrine you're invoking for your takfir, you would also be a kaffir for openly bragging about your sins.

 

[Solid]

I have a lot of respect for the Shaykh. However, I'm just going to say this is one opinion I certainly won't endorse him on.

Lol at @SOMACOON acting like the typical religious wahabi khariji terrorist. Nigga, you're on here bragging about how much zina you indulge in and other vices, and then you're trying to make takfir on others? The hilarious thing is, according to the same wahabi doctrine you're invoking for your takfir, you would also be a kaffir for openly bragging about your sins.

This is why Duchess 'title is bad. The guy never endorsed same sex unions. Duchess is just tryna make a hit thread. He clearly says he's against it morally and islamically yet just because he's not against it politically, Duchess wants to extrapolate it to say he supports the whole idea. It's flat out wrong and she knows it.

 

[Southerner]

[/QUOTE]

Hard to argue against anything he said

 

[SOMACOON]

This is why Duchess 'title is bad. They guy never endorsed same sex unions. Duchess is just tryna make a hit thread. He clearly says he's against it morally and islamically yet just because he's not against it politically, Duchess wants to extrapolate it to say he supports the whole idea. It's flat out wrong and she knows it.

Ma niggah
Duchness unlike the, "Shikeh" would perhaps even support homosexuals morally unlike him.
The title given to this thread is a scam, no religious scholar would ever welcome same sex marriage, she went to the extent to deliberately change the words hence the title. What point would she need to prove? We all don't support SSM morally, so why would we support it politically. We live in the west so the laws passed are not passed by our forefathers, it doesn't really effect us. Like you said he didn't endorse SSM, but someone here seems to be endorsing them all in that while she hides behind the Shikehs name.

 

[Hafez]

Aucuthubillah

LOL @ the title of this thread. @Duchess You are cunningly trying to mislead people from the path of Allah (SWT). "Shaykh Yasir Qadhi supports same sex unions" anybody who reads that title would think he has issued a verdict declaring homosexuality to be halal.

My previous post was more of a calculated response as the title of this thread is truly misleading.

You can't possibly 'support' gay marriage. Those who would have homosexual relations in the west are usually the non-Muslims. Supporting same-sex marriages would obviously facilitate homosexual relations.

Just like the way selling pork to non-Muslims is haraam, what makes it halal to support civil same-sex marriages amongst the non-Muslims?

You have to think about the impact that this (legalising same-sex marriages) would have on society, it will normalise homosexuality on a macro-level.

From an Islamic perspective, homosexuals are supposed to be punished, not be granted social and economical welfare. Rejecting civil same-sex marriages is thus closer to the teachings of Islam.

 

[Duchess]

This is why Duchess 'title is bad. The guy never endorsed same sex unions. Duchess is just tryna make a hit thread. He clearly says he's against it morally and islamically yet just because he's not against it politically, Duchess wants to extrapolate it to say he supports the whole idea. It's flat out wrong and she knows it.

I did not say the good Sheikh supports gay marriage morally. lol If people read my topic and that's what they take from it then that's on them.


Btw, Dr. Jonathan Brown argues that same sex attraction is 'normal'.

The focus on actions in the Shariah means that desires or inclinations have no legal substance. The Shariah doesn’t have a position on homosexual desire. Indeed, it can be quite normal. Like ancient Athenians, classical Muslim scholars and litterateurs regularly marveled over the beauty of young boys. Heirs to the Greeks, Muslim scholars found it expectable that men would be attracted to young boys or beautiful males, since they manifested the same feminine beauty as women. Many Muslim scholars even prohibited men from gazing at beautiful young boys, and encouraged parents to dress such children in veils when in public.

But the Shariah does have a clear position on sexual acts. All sexual contact between unmarried men and women is forbidden.

The Quran deals explicitly with Sodomy (Liwat, named after Lot and his people). The holy book recounts the story of Sodom several times, condemning its people’s overall immorality, and specifically criticizing its men for “going to men out of desire instead of to women.” Sodomy, understood as anal sex, was thus prohibited by the consensus of Muslim scholars (Muhammad’s condemnation of anal sex with wives added hetero anal sex to this as well). Muslim scholars set the punishment for anal sex between men as anywhere from a relatively light one at the judge’s discretion (since Sodomy could not result in illegitimate children), to the same punishment as fornication (based on analogy to hetero-sex), to execution (based on a command from Muhammad of disputed authenticity).

Because sexual contact between women does not involve penetration with a penis, it never received the same legal categorization as Liwat. Called Sihaq (‘grinding’), it was prohibited under the general rule against sexual contact outside marriage.

https://variety.com/2015/voices/opinion/islam-gay-marriage-beliefs-muslim-religion-1201531047/